this was a situation where if fitted oxygen masks would not be used, if we suspect smoke, we suspect fire ????.

Fire in the aircraft so lets give all the pax oxygen and fuel the fire!!!., i think not !!!!

Good job those involved,...:)

from the pics i think the a/c was g-jedt, which i was on yesterday :)

r.e. smoke hoods they arent carried for pax as the theory goes that pax would spend more time putting them on and messing about than getting out of the a/c and following crew instructions

Smoke hoods are provided as protection to those fighting the fire. Above post re: use of oxygen is correct, the only time drop down oxygen would be used (on a/c that have it fitted) is during a cabin decompression. The masks have holes in anyway and do not provide 100% oxygen, it is a mix of oxygen and cabin air - useless in a smoke situation.

It wasn't G-JEDT. I was flying it all afternoon yesterday. I am led to believe it was G-JECE

So it wasn't your fault old boy! I'll bet there's an ex-mickey mouse airlines crew member involved somewhere!

FlyBe pax July up 37% on last year
 

An average load factor of 74.6% can't be bad, especially if the economics of the Q400 are as good as the folks in Exeter claim.

Well done BE :ok:

*j*

Yeah well done everyone, it has taken a lot of hard work to achieve this and don't we know it, but it will benefit us in the long term. Onwards and upwards for flybe!

A pretty feeble load factor when you are in the low fares business. EZY achieved 85.2 and RYR 84. It must also be remembered that July is one of the peak months. Which are the weak routes that are dragging those crucial load factors down?

Don't forget that BE also sell 'economy plus' flexible fares to a willing business market: they are anything but low fare.

Don't think the CAA has released July's figures yet, but here's a link to a pdf of the domestic pax figures by route:

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/80/airport...e_Analysis.pdf

*j*

Southend is rumoured to be Flybe's next area for development,with new routes from next year. Let's hope
they help to boost the load factor.

Could this increase have anything to do with the new 737 routes from BHX and Exeter?? Loads are always well above 80% on the routes... Strange how figures can be reported!

Long may it continue, nice to see some positive news:cool:

With the amount of tech and cancelled flights Fly Be have the load factors on the remaining flts should be 100% if not their origional loads were pretty poor whatever the price of their "low cost ticket":suspect:

Surely it is overall yield and not load factor which is the yardstick by which profitable operations are judged.

Yes, ALLMCC, of course ot is more than load factor which determines profitability. It is also more than overall yield. It is that combination of overall revenue and overall cost which determines the level of loss or profit. What concerns me about the Flybe position ids that it is blatantly competing in the low fares market and overwhelmingly advertises price in its blizzard advertising at least in the national papers. That means that price is likely to be the public image of the company now. I know that both EZY and RYR feature price just as strongly and both of them also sell seats at prices that are sometimes well in excess of their direct competitors. But what they have both seen recently is that yields have been going down in actual terms It must be the same in Flybe’s case.

The real difference between Flybe and, say, RYR and EZY is that Flybe has a very high proportion of short sectors. It does not matter what deal Flybe did for the Q400’s (and I am sure that that was excellent) or how cheap they are to operate, the fact remains that there is one arrival and one departure for every sector. This always makes very short sectors much more expensive to operate. Engine costs are higher on short sectors as well.

Flybe have a very high proportion of new routes (new routes usually equals immature routes) on which yields can be expected to be low.

They have come a long way since the British European days when they very much aspired to be a quality operation serving premium business markets (Remember them being the dominant operator at LCY?). I think the jury is still out on whether that transition has got staying power or whether they are going to have to fine another niche. They have neither the marketing strength, low costs or route density of their main competitors. There are reasons to feel jittery about some of the things that they are doing.

Watch for competitor announcements about sun routes ex BHX and watch out for news of some exciting things at NWI. I suspect that Flybe may be licking a wound or two. They may be more than just flesh wounds. We shall see!.

Dash-300's return to FlyBE!!
 

I'm sorry......I shouldn't laugh...... but I just can't help it!!!!!!!

So the story goes that the engines on the Dash-400's are 'not too well'. So all the new ones coming to the company are having the engines taken off them to replace those engines on the 'older' 400's which are knackered.

And the mighty Dash-300 returns to help sort things out.

I feel terrible for those guys who will now be taking a step back in time.

New people to the company going straight onto the 146 and then Embraer, ahead of those who should rightly be given a jet-seat but instead have to fly the old dash again. Terrible behaviour from the management.

Any idea where the -300s are coming from? Probably most of the ones traded in are now engaged elsewhere. Maybe BACX have one or two available?

Both are ex-BACX - G-BRYI, G-BRYJ.

Skiddy

Oh dear, BRYJ was in a state when I flew in it 2 years ago. Almost got decapitated by the cabin divider :uhoh:

So they're having to fly these back from Canada? IIRC,they were delivered there,were they not?

Kind of answered my own question. They're currently not UK registered,so looks like a return trip,probably on the house @ Bombardier!

G-BRYI has been in open storage at North Bay for some time, still in partial BA colours. Not sure where G-BRYJ is

Jimbo