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GustyOrange 12th December 2012 14:41

Lufthansa switch DUS flights to GLA. Move driven 'purely by customer demand'.

Glasgow joy over German flights switch | Evening Times

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rpmac 12th December 2012 15:20

Might also be the fact that Ryanair use Weeze, plus flights to Cologne (Germanwings) and other flights to Munich, Berlin, Frankfurt (and Hamburg I think EasyJet)

Joe Curry 14th December 2012 10:02

Customer demand or taxpayer shovel?
Looks like EDI's CEO is demanding answers over the loss of EDI-DUS.


Who paid for Glasgow air route move? - Letters - Scotsman.com

bos2gla 14th December 2012 10:27

Looks more like he is trying to stir up trouble - the letter does not make any allegations, instead it alludes to secret agreements in smoke filled rooms. If he is the true champion of open competition, why not put his money where his mouth is?

I am sure that the new owners of Edinburgh Airport don't take prisoners, unlike sleepy old BAA/HAL!

CabinCrewe 14th December 2012 12:41

Wonder if the recent EZY route announcements and MSP "arrangement" at EDI needs further transparency if there are concerns about smoke filled rooms ? Those that throw stones and all that...
We'll probably here no more about it. Just someone venting...

CabinCrewe 14th December 2012 12:51

The revived poster on said Scotsman forum "HansNees" seems familiar.... mmm
Post it on as many sites as you can and maybe someone will take some vague interest ? :=

NorthSouth 14th December 2012 17:19

But what on earth can he mean? As others have said there is no evidence, just an implication. But he wouldn't have sent the letter if he didn't have evidence. But where would public money have come from? Scottish Govt? Scottish Enterprise? An SG contract with AviaSolutions to promote particular routes to airlines? The Route Development Fund ceased in 2007 so there's no formal mechanism for doing this.

In any case, what possible benefit would any public authority (leaving aside local councils) see in switching the route from EDI to GLA?

NS

OntimeexceptACARS 14th December 2012 20:49

Gordon Dewar, and Joe for that matter - its a commercial decision. Deal with it. Lufthansa are aiming to do one thing: return to profit. Have G and J asked themselves why Lufty would operate DUS-EDI and CGN-EDI, both as Germanwings/Lufty codeshares after next summer when, as the airline have stated, the majority of pax come from the West?

I understand EDI has NRN, SXF, MUC, and FRA. GLA will be served by DUS and SXF. Doesn't seem a bad decision, Lufty trying to capture as much of the market as possible from more than one destination.

Its not Dewar's decision to make, nor is it BAA/LHR Ltd, or the council, or anyone else. Gordon is making an a*** of himself to suggest otherwise.

Exasperated 14th December 2012 23:40


But what on earth can he mean? As others have said there is no evidence, just an implication. But he wouldn't have sent the letter if he didn't have evidence. But where would public money have come from? Scottish Govt? Scottish Enterprise? An SG contract with AviaSolutions to promote particular routes to airlines? The Route Development Fund ceased in 2007 so there's no formal mechanism for doing this.

In any case, what possible benefit would any public authority (leaving aside local councils) see in switching the route from EDI to GLA?

NS
The evidence is here

Herald Scotland


Mr Dewar highlighted the role played by Glasgow City Marketing Bureau, which is funded by Glasgow City Council, to lure the airline and claimed Visit-Scotland was also involved.

The Glasgow bureau has confirmed it provided up to £40,000 in marketing support, which it said would help increase passenger volumes.
Marketing fund could mean anything.

I suspect that this would not be the deciding factor on the move but we will have to wait and see on the success of the route.

Ex

SWBKCB 15th December 2012 05:56

Either GLA have done something illegal - in which case, see you in court, or they haven't - in which case just admit they've done a better job than you and learn for next time.

The Hypnoboon 15th December 2012 09:17

What were Mr Dewar and certain posters on this forum expecting? That BAA gives up the ghost and shuts Glasgow and everyone decants to Edinburgh? They wanted competition, and it looks like they are getting it, admittedly not in the way, I suspect, they were hoping.

However I fail to see the logic in getting angry about GLASGOW Marketing Bureau, which is funded by GLASGOW City Council which in turn is funded by residents of GLASGOW through council tax spending money on something that will benefit GLASGOW. It, to me, just reeks of sour grapes.

Jamie2k9 15th December 2012 17:43

Can anyone at EDI confirm that Etihad are to launch a 2 weekly service from July 2013 once the A330 comes off some DUB flights. EY expected to confirm it shortly.

CabinCrewe 15th December 2012 18:44

I wouldn't believe everything you read elsewhere....;)
Rumoured for a few weeks now but Im guessing you'll get no confirmation in here. Wait until next year.
Very odd choice of frequency.

Jamie2k9 15th December 2012 19:37


I wouldn't believe everything you read elsewhere....http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...lies/wink2.gif
Rumoured for a few weeks now but Im guessing you'll get no confirmation in here. Wait until next year.
Very odd choice of frequency.
EY have a market to build with EK at GLA and NCL and would be a factor for low freq to start. Would expect them to wait until all the PR about EK second 777 at GLA dies down before any news about it.

Skipness One Echo 15th December 2012 20:42

Do they serve any other destinations with the A332 at less than daily? Mind you, unlike EK, it's not like EY are in it for the money......

Joe Curry 16th December 2012 21:27


But where would public money have come from? Scottish Govt? Scottish Enterprise?
As Gordon said, "who was sitting around the table".

CabinCrewe 16th December 2012 21:46

Not you thats for sure. Leave it to the professionals to sort out, if indeed anything needs sorting. Im guessing we'll conveniently (for everyone) hear no more about it.

BA318 18th December 2012 15:43

Air Canada
 
Air Canada have launched a LCC "Rouge" will operate 767 to Edinburgh. Looks like 3weekly from July 2013.

aircanada.com - About Air Canada rouge

Betablockeruk 18th December 2012 15:50

aircanada.com - About Air Canada rouge

Well done. Quite a result.

Skipness One Echo 18th December 2012 15:57

Air Canada launch EDI-YYZ with new loco
 
Beautiful colour scheme and a kick in the balls to GLA.
EDI-YYZ is a trickier animal than GLA though. Worldways and Transat never got beyond a single weekly summer rotation and that got canned recently.

Good result!
Btw that livery looks better than mainline's. Just saying!


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