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LGS6753 19th December 2005 15:39

Looking at the EZY website, and taking random dates in June 06, there are very few flights listed (one or zero). However, the same applies to Stansted.
IMHO they haven't finished loading the schedules yet. Any reductions of this magnitude would imply a major disaster or change in strategy, neither of which seems likely. If Scotland-London flights are to be reduced, I would expect reductions at Stansted due to increased competition from Air Berlin and flyglobespan.
I believe EDI is Luton's busiest route and must handle around 500,000 pax per annum.

Powerjet1 19th December 2005 16:19

Noticed from the prov CAA stats that LTN carried 71k more pax than BHX in Nov, up to 652k, and are very close to overtaking them on the 12 months roll. Can this be right ?. I know it includes ryanair, & the growth rate of some 23% will fall away come Feb, but nevertheless, it still surprised me

MerchantVenturer 19th December 2005 16:19

easyJet booking engine showing BRS-EDI and BRS-GLA each 3 rotations per day as usual for next summer.

It is inconceivable that LTN and STN would have fewer flights.

As has been it said must be a case of the loading of schedules not yet finished. Ryanair seems to be incomplete on many of its route schedules summer 06. Doubtless the same reason.

King Pong 19th December 2005 17:04


Noticed from the prov CAA stats that LTN carried 71k more pax than BHX in Nov, up to 652k, and are very close to overtaking them on the 12 months roll. Can this be right ?. I know it includes ryanair, & the growth rate of some 23% will fall away come Feb, but nevertheless, it still surprised me
Birmingham went through a long period of declining passengers. This trend has only been recently reversed.

Buster the Bear 19th December 2005 18:59

The entire easyJet S06 programme will be on sale by Christmas.

Powerjet1 20th December 2005 08:38

Have a feeling the ryan LTN-TSF could be up for the chop. From January, the Tue/Wed flights are nolonger available, and from the 21 Feb there are no flights at all. SO6 is also non-bookable.

LTNman 20th December 2005 16:12

Might be nothing but:

LONDON -(Dow Jones)- Irish no-frills airline Ryanair Holdings PLC (RYAAY) said Tuesday it will cut flights during the first three months of 2006 due to delays in deliveries of new Boeing Co. (BA) 737-800aircraft.

Ryanair said it expects the flight cuts to reduce passenger numbers by 10,000 a month during January, February and March. That will mean overall passenger traffic will be just under 35 million passengers in the current fiscal year ending March 31, 2006, from previous expectations of over 35 million.

The airline said a strike at Boeing during September and October had meant a one month delay to deliveries of new aircraft. It had covered a shortfall of four new aircraft during October, November and December by extending the flying of some older 737 planes, but it has to give these up at the end of the year because they've already been sold.

Buster the Bear 20th December 2005 20:17

There should be a nice 'compo' cheque arriving at Ryanair soon from Mr Boeing!

Any news of which London airport www.blue1.com will be using, my guess is Gatwick or Stansted?

LTNman 21st December 2005 04:31

I would have thought that if the airline can secure slots out of Stansted, get charged no more than Luton and will be flying routes that are not already served from Essex then Luton will not get a look in.

If on the other hand Luton’s marketing team are on the ball and point out that Luton has the second biggest catchment area in the UK and that its passengers love the wartime spirit singing “We’ll meet again” when travelling the crowded bus to the railway station then there is a chance.

I heard this line might be working on a small French regional airline flying ATR42’s from deepest France so watch this space :ok:

Powerjet1 21st December 2005 05:41


Ryanair said it expects the flight cuts to reduce passenger numbers by 10,000 a month during January, February and
Slight typo error I think. Should be 100,000 a month.

Ryanair say this is 200 rotations per month or 1% of the flying programme that is affected.

Powerjet1 23rd December 2005 15:09


So what sort of Mickey Mouse airline would operate a service to the UK and not have an English language website or booking engine.
Styrian Spirit's booking engine has been updated and now includes a full english language booking facility. Seems the cheapest fare available is between LTN & Klagenfurt is 181 euros( 99 ticket + 82 taxes) and is bookable until Oct 06.

Powerjet1 24th December 2005 05:33

With all the ryanair S06 flights now on sale, it certainly looks as if the Luton-Treviso is being dropped. No flights whatsoever from the end of Feb & throughout the summer. Will it be replaced by another new route ?

anna_list 24th December 2005 09:10

It looks as though the rotation freed by dropping LTN - TSF is being used to fly the second LTN - BGY (so both Bergamo flights will be operated by Luton based aircraft). The rotation freed in Bergamo is then being used to fly a fourth daily BGY - STN from the end of Feb.

So it doesn't look as though LTN will get any more new routes from Ryanair for the time being.

However, with 30 new aircraft to be delivered between September 06 and May 07, there must a fair chance that more routes will be on the way before too long.

Buster the Bear 24th December 2005 14:29

Than means Ryanair have reduced capacity in real terms as one of Bergamo and the Shannon were operated by aircraft based at the respective airport, they will be Luton based for S06, so over 100,000 fewer passengers next summer.

Have the new operators upset Ryanair at all?

Powerjet1 24th December 2005 19:14

Stansted. Well there's a surprise!!!!


The new spanish operators have been in place now almost a year, and so far, not much to show for it.

Buster the Bear 24th December 2005 20:34

New Wizz route
Styrian
Arann to Leyton Orient
Arann to Isle of Man
A few extra Monarch
Thomsonfly......Well a reduction in seat capacity from S05 BAL/BY?

Someone help me out with the rest.........?

Well we have a new based easyJet to get excited about!

So where is the growth predicted on this thread going to come from?

Wizz, more new routes?
easyJet, growth from thier extra based airframe?
Arann, more new destinations?
And.......?

Having said all the above, extra passengers do not mean profit?

I guess the lack of concrete laying can only mean one thing?

phil_2405 24th December 2005 20:46

Has the additional easyJet aircraft yet to have its routes announced then?

LTNman 24th December 2005 21:24

I see an easyjet aircraft has had to divert to East Midlands at 22.00 due to fog as they needed 700m. I wonder whether they will be able to hire coaches at short notice for 23.00 on Christmas Eve. Somehow I think it’s going to be a Christmas Day to remember for their passengers.

Snow is forecast for Tuesday and Wednesday, it wasn’t that many years ago that snow fell between Christmas and New Year and brought 3 days of chaos to the airport. Day 1 was spent ploughing the airport but once open there was only one serviceable aircraft de-icer for the whole airport for the next 2 days. Hope they have a spare this year!

ezyBoh 24th December 2005 21:48

Indeed the MAD-LTN has diverted to EMA due to the fog here at LTN. YOu'll be pleased to know that coaches have been oredered for the passnegers and crew and are currently on their way.

The passengers have been looked after and are happy. They may remember having an unscheduled divert but at least we at easyJet have provided transport back to LTN unlike someother airline I could mention!

LTNman 25th December 2005 06:33

Well done easyjet! I guess if it were a Ryanair flight that got diverted then the passengers would be still walking along the M1


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