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dsamole 18th Apr 2023 20:59

Someone needs to ask the question where the lighting towers have gone to be stored...... :ugh:

pug 18th Apr 2023 21:16


Originally Posted by dsamole (Post 11422052)
Someone needs to ask the question where the lighting towers have gone to be stored...... :ugh:

Is this a loaded question? I’m guessing they’re not being stored on site?

DSA-DUB 19th Apr 2023 05:56


Originally Posted by pug;[url=tel:11422059
11422059[/url]]Is this a loaded question? I’m guessing they’re not being stored on site?

On another airports runway!!!


Asturias56 19th Apr 2023 07:47


Originally Posted by dsamole (Post 11422052)
Someone needs to ask the question where the lighting towers have gone to be stored...... :ugh:


Why? It's their business not ours

dsamole 19th Apr 2023 20:54

Also have removed all concrete bases, electrical cables and the breaker shed.. into "storage" with concrete blocks which have been burried in the ground since 2004?? Pull the other one. Not that there's and talks still ongoing but it certainly is making it very off putting to any potential prospective buyer looking in.

flybar 19th Apr 2023 21:17


Originally Posted by dsamole (Post 11422615)
Also have removed all concrete bases, electrical cables and the breaker shed.. into "storage" with concrete blocks which have been burried in the ground since 2004?? Pull the other one. Not that there's and talks still ongoing but it certainly is making it very off putting to any potential prospective buyer looking in.

It does worry me the naivety of some people in Doncaster. Presumably they will be trying to reopen the pits soon!

pug 19th Apr 2023 21:28


Originally Posted by dsamole (Post 11422615)
Also have removed all concrete bases, electrical cables and the breaker shed.. into "storage" with concrete blocks which have been burried in the ground since 2004?? Pull the other one. Not that there's and talks still ongoing but it certainly is making it very off putting to any potential prospective buyer looking in.

Probably terms of lease, once it’s ended return the land to how it was before. I’m guessing that all of the wiring, power supply and footings were brand new in 2004 and there was no legacy equipment from the military days? Still, it does show clear intent by Peel and I think that response by Ros Jones was a knee jerk reaction which has subsequently sparked this Article 4 Direction.

In other news, I think the cut off for consultation regarding the Article 4 Directive is next Wednesday. Nick Fletcher has found another point to score too by announcing the cancellation of Fridays planned meeting even though he was apparently notified ahead of time that it was going to be rescheduled. Looks like a great place to do business and invest doesn’t it.

Peel fiddling whilst Gordon burns, or whatever the saying is.

dsamole 19th Apr 2023 21:34

Pug, have seen your post on F4A, by towers, I meant the framework for the approach lighting. More airside stuff will dissapear as the weeks go on, mostly under the cover of darkness.

davidjohnson6 19th Apr 2023 22:12

Will DSA be the UK equivalent of Meigs Field ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meigs_...on_and_closure

pug 20th Apr 2023 06:58


Originally Posted by dsamole (Post 11422629)
Pug, have seen your post on F4A, by towers, I meant the framework for the approach lighting. More airside stuff will dissapear as the weeks go on, mostly under the cover of darkness.

Thanks for clarity, do you know where they are being stored? On the approach to another airports runway? Seem to recall the ones from Sheffield City ended up at Tollerton or somewhere like that.

TimmyW 20th Apr 2023 09:02

What else is due to be removed?

I've been told first hand from Nick Fletcher that the lease option is now off the table.

ara01jbb 20th Apr 2023 12:08


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 11422643)
Will DSA be the UK equivalent of Meigs Field ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meigs_...on_and_closure

With the small difference that Meigs Field was both popular with its users and near a large urban centre.

Asturias56 21st Apr 2023 08:12

And famously was the default airfield in the first edition of "Flight Simulator"

davidjpowell 21st Apr 2023 11:56


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11423376)
And famously was the default airfield in the first edition of "Flight Simulator"

And many more editions.

dsamole 21st Apr 2023 18:21

I do wish Ros Jones would stop misleading the public in saying talks with "interested parties" are still ongoing. If she wants to call DMBC an interested party then so be it but she's implying and then Sir All Hail Chadwick is then reposting this giving what can only be described as false hope.

The UAE left the table months ago.

If talks we're ongoing, why would you be storing, sorry, I meant to say ripping out vitial airport infrastructure and continue to make plans to butcher more of it.

pug 21st Apr 2023 18:37


Originally Posted by dsamole (Post 11423727)
I do wish Ros Jones would stop misleading the public in saying talks with "interested parties" are still ongoing. If she wants to call DMBC an interested party then so be it but she's implying and then Sir All Hail Chadwick is then reposting this giving what can only be described as false hope.

The UAE left the table months ago.

If talks we're ongoing, why would you be storing, sorry, I meant to say ripping out vitial airport infrastructure and continue to make plans to butcher more of it.

I note she mentioned the 24400 tonnes of freight the airport handled in the year before closure. What she failed to mention was the 440000 tonnes its nearest competitor handled in the same period. Lots has been said about the re-opening of Manston, however it would appear that their business plan by RSP has been shut down by York Aviation, their response? ‘York Aviation doesn’t even justify a response’.

Seems regional airports are good ways for heroic politicians to ‘save the day’ and award their mates development land for pennies all in the name of economic development.

If local public servants wanted to Save DSA they would have done so over a year ago when they had the chance. All they are doing now is delaying the inevitable and making it difficult for Peel to move ahead with other plans that may contribute to the economy in other ways.

Peel won’t sell because nobody will pay the asking price for an under-performing airport.

pamann 21st Apr 2023 19:37

Just out of interest; If DSA was to reopen, where or who would the flying come from?

Tui have redeployed elsewhere.

Wizz left well before the shutters closed.

Ezy tried and failed to make it work.

flyBe tried. Went bust.

As an outsider who doesn’t follow the goings on at DSA that closely, I’m genuinely scratching my head here.

davidjpowell 21st Apr 2023 19:58


Originally Posted by pamann (Post 11423761)
Just out of interest; If DSA was to reopen, where or who would the flying come from?

Tui have redeployed elsewhere.

Wizz left well before the shutters closed.

Ezy tried and failed to make it work.

flyBe tried. Went bust.

As an outsider who doesn’t follow the goings on at DSA that closely, I’m genuinely scratching my head here.

Tui and others have apparently said they would come back. I think for Tui it worked well.

Who knows whether that would happen or not. If the council buy the land, can't run an airport, they can always develop on it...

pug 21st Apr 2023 20:27


Originally Posted by davidjpowell (Post 11423768)
Tui and others have apparently said they would come back. I think for Tui it worked well.

Who knows whether that would happen or not. If the council buy the land, can't run an airport, they can always develop on it...

Wizz have said they wouldn’t return. TUI did work well there and shows that without competition DSA could fill the aircraft, just a shame easyjet never found it viable to carry on as we wouldn’t have been having this discussion now.

ATNotts 21st Apr 2023 21:20


Originally Posted by pamann (Post 11423761)
Just out of interest; If DSA was to reopen, where or who would the flying come from?

Tui have redeployed elsewhere.

Wizz left well before the shutters closed.

Ezy tried and failed to make it work.

flyBe tried. Went bust.

As an outsider who doesn’t follow the goings on at DSA that closely, I’m genuinely scratching my head here.

Add to that the regular freight operations with vegetables from Africa appears to have decamped (successfully) to the European mainland.

It is going to be hard to make a business case for the reopening of a commercial airport on the scale of the former DSA.


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