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EGNXROB 19th Dec 2021 19:51


Originally Posted by egnxema (Post 11158378)
Saturday 18th Dec a QR 747 (flight QR8856) was scheduled on FR24 to fly AUH - EMA arr at approx 1640. En route it diverted to MXP

I assumed it might have been connected to the AUH Grand Prix maybe, bringing team kit back to the UK. But interested in the MXP divert / re-route.

does anyone know if the flight did arrive in to EMA overnight Sat, or any time today?

Both QR 747-8’s was due to operate through EMA on F1 duties Thursday & Saturday and had flight plans filed but believe DHL rejected them as the times clashed with peak time at DHL, the first operated to Doncaster and the second Milan then onto Stansted I believe.

EGNXROB 2nd Jan 2022 21:33

Silkway cargo to operate x2 weekly 747F - Thursdays and Fridays routing Hong Kong - Baku - EMA
Should begin 13th Jan.

ATNotts 3rd Jan 2022 07:59


Originally Posted by EGNXROB (Post 11164208)
Silkway cargo to operate x2 weekly 747F - Thursdays and Fridays routing Hong Kong - Baku - EMA
Should begin 13th Jan.

Is this a reletting of the ATG contract that has been operating in the run up to Christmas, or a new service?

EGNXROB 3rd Jan 2022 08:39

I’m unsure about the ATG service there doesn’t seem to be any slots in for it this week but they did tend to file late anyway, there should also be some extra Airbridge cargo 747’s from HKG over the coming weeks first slot Thursday 6th

ATNotts 14th Jan 2022 09:07

I noticed that (according to FR34) AeroLogic operated the BOX340 routing LEJ/EMA/LAX yesterday. I understood that post Brexit EU carriers couldn't operate revenue services between UK and USA, hence why Cargo Logic and Kalitta have been operating the Leipzig/EMA-Los Angeles route for DHL and can't recall seeing them operating EMA/LAX over the last few months - though I have to say I don't go looking for it.

Has anything changed legally, or was this a one off licence to operate the route?

EGNXROB 14th Jan 2022 09:52

FedEx new route on the 777F - begins 31st Jan CDG-EMA-IND Mon-Thurs 23:20 arrival 01:00 departure

DHL Air UK’s first 777F should be delivered Feb and second March with 2 other’s coming from China Cargo on lease.

Regarding the Aerologic 777 EMA - LAX route operates wed/thurs with Cargologic operating 5 weekly along side. Unsure what has changed to allow this route but know they used to operate the route when it first started.

Rutan16 15th Jan 2022 07:22


Originally Posted by ATNotts (Post 11169874)
I noticed that (according to FR34) AeroLogic operated the BOX340 routing LEJ/EMA/LAX yesterday. I understood that post Brexit EU carriers couldn't operate revenue services between UK and USA, hence why Cargo Logic and Kalitta have been operating the Leipzig/EMA-Los Angeles route for DHL and can't recall seeing them operating EMA/LAX over the last few months - though I have to say I don't go looking for it.

Has anything changed legally, or was this a one off licence to operate the route?

Perversely as with everything "B: UK carriers must stop in the UK from mainland EU however EU carriers CAN operate from the UK under long standing way pre EEC cargo and shipping terms !

EGNXROB 25th Jan 2022 06:26

Seems the Aerologic LAX flight was only a temporary replacement, Kalitta Air 744F’s back in replacement of the Aerologic Wed’s & Thurs starting next Wednesday 2nd Feb. Still running alongside the 5 weekly LAX Cargologic 744 which now also has a Monday rotation EMA-LEJ-BAH and a Thursday CVG-EMA.

deltahotel 26th Jan 2022 20:00

Hey EGNXROB. Don’t forget the extra 767s coming to DHK!

EMACargo 8th Feb 2022 16:30

So now the 1st DHL UK 777F has been delivered, has any routes been confirmed for the initial plane?

ATNotts 8th Feb 2022 16:57


Originally Posted by EMACargo (Post 11181645)
So now the 1st DHL UK 777F has been delivered, has any routes been confirmed for the initial plane?

By the looks of it Prestwick at the moment!! (plenty of training to be done I'm sure).

I am sure someone will come up with a rather more sensible reply!!
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Balair 22nd Feb 2022 16:48

FedEx

Following the introduction of the EMA-IND route, has there been any further indication from FedEx that they are still looking to operate Eastbound into EMA from the States, either from IND or, as was suggested last September, from MEM?

egnxema 24th Feb 2022 22:38

Also interested in Balair’s question. This eve on FR24 I watched the FedEx 757 depart EMA for Leige, as the 777 pulled on stand from CDG. And then noticed a 757 leaving BHX for CDG. I think there is also a MAN-CDG FedEx route too. Anyone know why the rotes are not consolidated to a larger type flying from the US to CDG via EMA on the other leg?

STN Ramp Rat 25th Feb 2022 17:51


Originally Posted by egnxema (Post 11189824)
Also interested in Balair’s question. This eve on FR24 I watched the FedEx 757 depart EMA for Leige, as the 777 pulled on stand from CDG. And then noticed a 757 leaving BHX for CDG. I think there is also a MAN-CDG FedEx route too. Anyone know why the rotes are not consolidated to a larger type flying from the US to CDG via EMA on the other leg?

The EMA-IND route is only at EMA due to a shortage of night slots at STN. FedEx have had night slot issues at STN for some time and previously operated a EWR-STN-CDG-EWR service that should have operated vis STN on the return to the US but due to a lack of night slots had to operate directly to the US on the return. eventually when it became aparent that the issue would not be resolved the service became a EWR-CDG-EWR route.

With regards to the variety of points of origin for flights to CDG remember FedEx is a parcels service and its all about the box, the aircraft will go wherever the box’s originate or terminate. A prime example of this is with DHL at Luton, they cannot get LHR slots for the London inbound sort so the flights operate to LTN, in the evening the flights position empty to LHR to collect the outbound London sort because LHR is closer to the sort location than LTN.

ATNotts 27th Feb 2022 09:11

Looks as though, unsurprisingly, the Air Bridge Sunday operation HKG/KJA-EMA is a victim of the current political situation.

Is there a 'plan B' in place with a different carrier and routing?

Balair 27th Feb 2022 15:10

[QUOTE=STN Ramp Rat;11190371]The EMA-IND route is only at EMA due to a shortage of night slots at STN. FedEx have had night slot issues at STN for some time and previously operated a EWR-STN-CDG-EWR service that should have operated vis STN on the return to the US but due to a lack of night slots had to operate directly to the US on the return. eventually when it became aparent that the issue would not be resolved the service became a EWR-CDG-EWR route

Slot availability at STN may have been a factor, but I think it’s a little too simplistic to say that this is the only reason for the introduction of the FedEx IND route from EMA.
With DHL and UPS having multiple daily direct flights to/from North America from their hubs at EMA, FedEx probably felt they needed to improve their offering from the UK’s logistics “golden triangle”. Edward Clarke, Vice President of FedEx operations UK said as much, stating they had selected EMA for the new service because of its strategic location and to give a boost to their operations in the Midlands. That being the case I would imagine an Eastbound service would be under consideration for the future.


ATNotts 8th Mar 2022 07:38

I have noticed that particularly at the weekend BA cargo flights show on FR24 from Frankfurt and on occasions from other European points. Clearly they aren't operating, but what is the history of those operations or slots and which carriers would be operating them on BA's behalf were they not "phantom" entries on FR24?

EGNXROB 10th Mar 2022 09:19

Ryanair add Marseille 2 weekly mon/Fri begins 2nd May 22

BHX5DME 13th Mar 2022 09:24

February Pax

STN – 1,150,746 down 39% on Feb 2019

MAN – 1,135,317 down 37% on Feb 2019

EMA – 110,435 down 49% on Feb 2019


Rolling 12m

STN – 8,813,319 up 126% on 12m ago

MAN – 7,772,748 up 111% on 12m ago

EMA – 992,848 UP 91% ON 12M AGO


February Freight

EMA – 35,285 up 4% on Feb 2021

STN – 18,128 down 12% on Feb 2021

MAN – 4,964 up 19% on Feb 2021

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Balair 13th Mar 2022 20:36

Freeport

A map showing the location of the Freeport tax sites which will be centred on and around the airport can now be viewed on the GOV.UK website.
The main site is a huge area to the South of the airport stretching between Diseworth and Donington Services. The area is roughly that of the Segro EM Gateway which also now includes three new tax sites.

There are are two sites shown on the airport itself. One covers the majority of the central maintenance area, including long stay car park one. The other is the area at the extreme Western end of the airport which is currently used for car parking.
Indications show that provision has been made here for a sizeable extension to the Western ramp. I would imagine therefore, that this location will probably be used for additional freight facilities.

One area that has not been included in the Freeport planning is that to the East of the new UPS hub, so it could be that this is already earmarked for a new ramp to cater for UPS’s future expansion.

It remains to be seen what transpires, but with the continued growth in airfreight at EMA I can imagine more ramp space will be required sooner rather than later.


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