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ATNotts 16th Sep 2020 07:19

East Midlands-7
 
BBC Breakfast are reporting from EMA this morning on the air cargo industry, and how well it is doing relative to commercial aviation as a whole. All good publicity for the airport.

southside bobby 16th Sep 2020 16:49

Not to forget little `ol STN all part of The MAG Group...

EMA July + 21.2%
EMA August +18.5%

STN July +43.6%
STN August + 25%

The increase driver being "home shopping".

BHX5DME 17th Sep 2020 14:24

MAG Group

August Pax

STN – 901,749 down 68.5%

MAN – 677,284 down 79.7%

EMA – 128,065 down 78.9%


12m pax end 31.08.20

STN – 15,103,532 down 46.8%

MAN – 14,831,610 down 49.4%

EMA – 2,087,699 down 56.5%


Cargo

EMA – 34,532 up 18.5%

STN – 21,972 up 24.3%

MAN – 3,614 down 62.4%

Balair 8th Oct 2020 10:44

UPS

Looking for an update on their operation at EMA.

Have UPS completed their move to the new hub facility yet?
I haven’t seen any announcement in the trade press so far, so I suppose it may still be in a transitional phase?

Also, has there been any indication of any future use for their vacated premises?


LBIA 12th Nov 2020 13:24

Jet2 new route from East Midlands for summer 2021

Skiathos = 1x weekly (Sun) commences May 23rd

LTNman 28th Dec 2020 10:50

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-55361080

ATNotts 28th Dec 2020 10:58

And what is so sad is that all most people, including those on AA&R threads, are bothered about are Passengers, passengers and passengers.

EMA is a commercial aviation success story, and was even before MAG took it over. Cargo is the airport's saviour, and likely it's future.

Balair 28th Dec 2020 12:08

Quite so. I’ve watched with interest, the incredible growth of the freight operation at EMA over the years since I used to export through there. I can only see this growth continuing over the coming years considering the increasing expansion of freight related facilities on and around the airport.

ATNotts 28th Dec 2020 12:54

Air cargo and parcels; one of the few sectors that will definitely benefit from Brexit, and the pandemic. Other airports, such as DSA and BHX have done very well out of both in the last few months, in the last few weeks, BHX has dene particularly well from the former, and that shows no sign of changing in the New Year. EMA will do likewise.

Obviously it's hard, when EMA is part of MAG to see how it is faring financially this financial year, and how much revenue has been lost, given the high growth rate in cargo, versus the collapse of passenger revenues. I would bet that EMA's balance sheet is a deal more healthy than much larger rivals such as MAN, STN, GLA, BHX and their like.

almost professional 28th Dec 2020 13:48

But you can bet that MAG will still not invest anything but the minimum they can get away with at EMA, calling the Runway resurfacing ‘investment’ is the classic example

ATNotts 29th Dec 2020 09:45

From the passenger facilities standpoint I agree, they are pretty dire, but when one of your major passenger customers is Ryanair who would like as likely walk away from EMA is they were asked to pay more than a pittance for the terminal facilities there is little financial incentive to invest more than is absolutely necessary. There are no full service carriers, such as KL, LH, AF or EK who would require for their business class passengers some level of creature comforts and with the best will in the world, good as the are sad to be, Jet2 aren't a premium carrier either.

On the cargo side MAG would appear to have been more than willing to work with their client base to ensure a world class cargo facility, and that cooperation and investment is really paying dividends now.

egnxema 29th Dec 2020 15:03

DHL have signed up for 2 units at EMGateway, 900,000 sq ft.

Will this his result in increased DHL air ops, or is the Gateway facility just for the rail terminal there?

NutLoose 30th Dec 2020 20:46

almost professional

I’d be happy if they put the missing bollards back on the little central traffic islands past DHL, they are bloody dangerous at night when it’s wet, you cannot see them. I’m amazed there hasn’t been an accident along there. They have been missing for months now.

NutLoose 1st Jan 2021 14:33

Plans are being drawn up to put in a bid to extend Nottingham’s tram system out to Derby and East Midlands Airport.

https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/...nsions-2693315

Twiglet1 1st Jan 2021 14:47

Notloose - let alone the pot holes that appear seasonally in the ring road - god forbid if you stop also as the camera police will have you

ATNotts 1st Jan 2021 15:33

NutLoose

My understanding was the the NET tram connection to EMA was the be an extension from the current Clifton terminus, and it would serve new residential developments planned for the A453 corridor between Clifton and Kegworth. I'd have though the cost of putting it through from Toton (as the article suggests) would be much greater, and blight a lot more current residential property than running it from Clifton; which would probably be a faster journey as well.

But then I'm not an infrastructure planner.

inOban 1st Jan 2021 15:58

The extension to Toton is linked to the Eastern arm of HS2, if it happens. Of course that would provide direct trains from Toton to BHX

ATNotts 1st Jan 2021 16:10

Indeed, but by the time that comes to fruition, if it ever does, we'll all be teleporting!

EGNXROB 3rd Jan 2021 19:27

Cargologic / kalitta
 
Cargologic will have a 744 based at EMA running a daily route to Cincinnati for DHL whilst Kalitta air 744 moves onto 5 weekly LAX route

N707ZS 4th Jan 2021 06:50

Is the Cargologic 747 replacing one of the 767s or is it extra.

ATNotts 4th Jan 2021 07:45

EGNXROB

Would I be correct in assuming that the move to Kalitta Air on LEJ-EMA-LAX is a consequence of Brexit, insofar as it is no longer permissible for a German carrier to carry revenue earning cargo on the UK/USA sector?

southside bobby 4th Jan 2021 11:40

Good work for CargoLogicAir/CLU...is a school of thought that a UK based/G-Dash registered B744F operator with now no reliance on work out of the EU to the Worldwide market would also fail to find work out of the UK after 1.1.21

A/c positioned in from STN.

EGNXROB 4th Jan 2021 15:32

N707ZS

Believe it to be alongside the 767’s operating although the Cargojet schedule does change slightly departing to Leipzig instead of Cincinnati

BHX5DME 11th Jan 2021 17:22

December 2020 Pax

Manchester – 248,451 down 87.4%

Stansted – 198,291 down 90.1%

East Midlands – 15,065 down 92.7%

2020

Stansted – 7,543,779 down 73.2%

Manchester – 7,037,036 down 76.0%

East Midlands – 899,756 down 80.8%

Cargo

East Midlands – 46,320 up 43.5%

Stansted – 23,136 up 18.8%

Manchester – 4,693 down 46.6%

ATNotts 11th Jan 2021 19:27

The cargo figure just underlines what I have written previously regarding the "unsung hero" for EMA. Passengers may be just 7.3% of last December but the revenue from cargo must be compensating, if not more than compensating, for the lost revenue from PAX. Is there is business case for investing more in cargo and letting passengers wither on the vine?

It perhaps goes some way to explain why the passenger facilities are relatively dire at EMA - invest where you know you can make money.

Jonty 20th Jan 2021 15:42

East Midlands have closed all passenger handling until the 31st Jan.

Twiglet1 21st Jan 2021 14:10

ATNotts

Correct to my understanding

NutLoose 25th Jan 2021 10:56

Twiglet1

And now they have snow those raised bases in the centre of the roads that are missing their keep left signage are now flush with snow and hidden, just waiting to rip someones sump out or cause injury at which point I do hope the unfortunate sues them.

BHX5DME 12th Feb 2021 15:19

January 2021

MAN – 127,638 down 92.8%

STN – 104,477 down 94.5%

EMA – 4,802 down 97.5%

12m rolling

STN – 5,745,700 down 79.6%

MAN – 5,388,648 down 81.7%

EMA – 713,989 down 84.7%

Cargo

EMA – 32,777 up 9.2%

STN – 23,173 up 48.4%

MAN – 3,879 down 51.5%

EGNXROB 16th Feb 2021 18:29

It appears Cargologic 744F will now be operating Liege - East Midlands - Atlanta - East Midlands - Amsterdam which I believe has been moved from LHR

egnxema 16th Feb 2021 19:50

Do G-CLAA and G-CLBA pass through EMA on a daily basis now?

EGNXROB 16th Feb 2021 19:53

G-CLBA is based running the daily CVG & Saturday Leipzig with G-CLAA had been running a few Atlanta trips through East Midlands sun/mon

N707ZS 16th Feb 2021 21:20

Don't forget you shouldn't be going to see aircraft at EMA or anywhere at the moment. The local police are happy to give you a fine as a reminder.

Buster the Bear 16th Feb 2021 23:33

too right they should!

SWBKCB 17th Feb 2021 06:12

Recent cases...

https://westbridgfordwire.com/west-b...lands-airport/

https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/...e-fine-5003959


ATNotts 17th Feb 2021 09:52

SWBKCB

It may just be sloppy journalism, but if the "East Midlands Airport Police" are a different entity to Leicestershire Constabulary one wonders what jurisdiction they have to issue fines to people on public roads outside the airport boundary. Moreover, there is a public footpath that runs roughly around the perimeter of EMA which is open as normal, so although it's probably more than a bit fool hardy to sit in your car at one of the vantage points around the perimeter, I really wouldn't have thought that driving from West Bridgford to walk the footpath wouldn't necessarily contravene the (thoroughly ambiguous) rules. I mean, what is "local area"? The characters who travelled from Mansfield are certainly on rather more dodgy ground!

It is rather galling that the police are more than happy to fine "low hanging fruit" but quite happy to turn a blind eye to the groups of youth and young adults that are regularly seen congregating outside corner shops, sans face coverings, and making no attempt at social distancing.

I would add that I haven't ventured anywhere near EMA since the latest lockdown began, nor for that matter, during either of the two previous lockdowns.

almost professional 17th Feb 2021 15:53

Doubt you would see much unless you were willing to put in a night shift! (And I don't miss those....)

NutLoose 20th Feb 2021 21:20

Well the potholes have now got their own potholes, come the first sniff of ice the roads start self gritting as the surface breaks down, but I wouldn’t expect it to improve anytime soon, the Airport headquarters building has a bloody great hole in one end through the outer wall and I’m talking feet wise, it’s falling apart, which doesn’t exactly hint at any spending anytime soon.

planeema971 21st Feb 2021 11:23

Does anyone know what the status is with the new UPS facility? I have heard it is due to open soon but not sure when. Is there any idea what sort of changes may happen to the UPS route network from EMA maybe we will see routes from Louisville? one of the new stands is marked for a 747 so will we maybe see some UPS aircraft other than the 767s?

EGNXROB 21st Feb 2021 12:01

think the open date is now expected to be April, and I’ve also heard rumours about flights from STN being moved up to EMA including some 747 traffic but I’m guessing time will tell


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