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ATNotts 27th Jun 2023 08:24


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11457538)
Oddly I know some well off folk who really object to shelling out for PE etc on short haul - anything under 4 hours they're happy to suffer in the back if the upgrade has to come out of their pocket .

Very often those with money to splurge are the least inclined to fritter it, that is probably why many of them, having accumulated wealth remain wealthy.

ETOPS 28th Jun 2023 12:11


Announcement due tomorrow.
Just been shown the GMB deal - all the usual stuff about "so much backdated and so much later" but the clause about no other staff groups to negotiate better deals stood out :eek:

nguba 28th Jun 2023 14:10

Interesting that BA CityFlyer could start operating at London Gatwick.

Did this used to be disallowed under industrial agreements with the pilots?


Skipness One Foxtrot 28th Jun 2023 14:28

It wasn't allowed under a SCOPE clause but I think COVID allowed them to bin that agreement with a lot of other protections.

Apron Artist 4th Jul 2023 10:06

It appears there is yet another IT issue...LGW certainly affected at the moment.

crewmeal 6th Jul 2023 07:45

BA to expand the call centre in India. That'll be fun. Sky use an Indian call centre and I could hardly understand what they were saying due to the poor standard of English.

Indian call centre

ATNotts 6th Jul 2023 08:38


Originally Posted by crewmeal (Post 11462718)
BA to expand the call centre in India. That'll be fun. Sky use an Indian call centre and I could hardly understand what they were saying due to the poor standard of English.

Indian call centre

Well thats going to work well unless of course BA are firstly going to select call handlers based upon, among other factors, the clarity of their speech (Indians tend to speak good English, it can be the accent that some people, especially the elderly find difficult) and then train them adequately.

Regarding Sky, theirs I have found really good on the handful of occasions I have had to talk to them on technical matters. Not so good when it comes to discussing subscriptions.

Asturias56 6th Jul 2023 09:07

"(Indians tend to speak good English, it can be the accent that some people, especially the elderly find difficult) "

For me its the SPEED of sub-continent English that is the problem - and of course the stress is different. I'm not asking for "Loooooooo-eeeeeeee-zzzzzzzz-iiiiiii-aaaaaaa-nnnnnnnnaaaaa" but a little slower would help. The clearest help I ever had on an international call was from Estonia and, very oddly Afghanistan (tho I guess if you're country s invaded every 30 years by assorted Anglo-Saxons......)

TCAS FAN 6th Jul 2023 12:25

Not impressed with BA trying to wriggle out of legitimate compensation for late arrival. Son and his wife recently flew LHR/ARN/LHR. Return sector flight late into ARN, no way it was getting back to LHR before curfew, rerouted to LGW.

Three hours plus after scheduled ETA before getting back to LHR, claimed for compensation. “Exceptional circumstances” claimed by BA due to ATC rerouting. After a few email exchanges, and evidence from FR24, they eventually coughed up.

Would have expected this from FR, not from the former “ world’s favourite airline”.

DaveReidUK 6th Jul 2023 12:45


Originally Posted by TCAS FAN (Post 11462874)
Not impressed with BA trying to wriggle out of legitimate compensation for late arrival. Son and his wife recently flew LHR/ARL/LHR. Return sector flight late into ARL, no way it was getting back to LHR before curfew, rerouted to LGW.

ARL is the code for an airport in Burkina Faso. Might have been easier just to name where your son had been.

rog747 6th Jul 2023 13:09


Originally Posted by TCAS FAN (Post 11462874)
Not impressed with BA trying to wriggle out of legitimate compensation for late arrival. Son and his wife recently flew LHR/ARL/LHR. Return sector flight late into ARL, no way it was getting back to LHR before curfew, rerouted to LGW.

Three hours plus after scheduled ETA before getting back to LHR, claimed for compensation. “Exceptional circumstances” claimed by BA due to ATC rerouting. After a few email exchanges, and evidence from FR24, they eventually coughed up.

Would have expected this from FR, not from the former “ world’s favourite airline”.

Ha! see my Post on TUI Airways - same old....Best R.

PS I know you meant Arlanda LOL Dave is being a bear today lol

DaveReidUK 6th Jul 2023 14:45

I suspected it was (though it might have been ATL), but you know what they say about assuming ... :O

Skipness One Foxtrot 7th Jul 2023 14:35

Seems passenger handling at London City is coming in house as BA CitiFlyer move from Menzies to Gatwick Ground Services....
They probably need to change that name though!

VickersVicount 7th Jul 2023 17:04


Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot (Post 11463520)
They probably need to change that name though!

I can’t see why when eg DNATA Dubai /SwissPort operates from almost every major airport…
CityFlyer

WHBM 7th Jul 2023 17:47


Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot (Post 11463520)
Seems passenger handling at London City is coming in house as BA CitiFlyer move from Menzies to Gatwick Ground Services....
They probably need to change that name though!

Years ago didn't they use KGS, which was KLM Ground Services, but that didn't stop use of the name ! At least this will be closer to home.

Skipness One Foxtrot 7th Jul 2023 18:16

They did use KGS who became COBALT post the Air France merger (aka Frogs in Clogs) back in the late BACON and earlier BA CityFlyer days. I only mention it as it's BA going self handling but moving heaven and earth to ensure it's not branded as BA!

nguba 8th Jul 2023 12:15

Interesting that GGS is doing handling for BACF at the same time as BAEF - given BACF may also add its first scheduled route at Gatwick and BACF & BAEF both share the same CEO.

PAXboy 8th Jul 2023 19:33

I agree nguba but, given my experience of British management over the last 40 years... I would expect nothing less.

nguba 8th Jul 2023 19:41

It's behind a paywall, but Sean Doyle confirms in The Sunday Times that a new website & app launching later this year. The A380 refurbishment was also confirmed, but with no timescale.

Skipness One Foxtrot 8th Jul 2023 21:01


Originally Posted by nguba (Post 11463970)
Interesting that GGS is doing handling for BACF at the same time as BAEF - given BACF may also add its first scheduled route at Gatwick and BACF & BAEF both share the same CEO.

Great point, I forgot that BA EuroFlyer had a part time CEO which IMHO explains a lot about the mess they're in.


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