Also looks like Malta may be added too at twice weekly (Monday & Friday) from 1st April 2024.
Loaded into system but appearing as 'Sold Out'.

Were are ye seeing these?

do ye no if theres anything new from SNN/ORK?

Oh really that's fantastic if that's also going to be sold from NWI, was popular for years when Air Malta did it

could I ask where you found this info please?

Think a lot of new FR routes from a variety of UK airports that have been loaded into GDS systems (and can be seen by those in the travel trade) but have not yet been made available for the public to book on the FR website or app.

I should imagine they'll be available to book very soon, FR often release big batches of new routes together with a plethora of new route fanfare press releases!

Indeed @SeanM1997 has announced plenty of new routes yet to be put on sale in the last 5 days, credit to him as always. So i'd imagine they will be on sale to the public in the coming days, with the final details released in their usual fanfare

BHX-BER
 

Just for you GF :)- Use the Internet site, check an existing BHX route, copy the URL, open a new tab, paste the URL into the new tab and send, then change the 3 letter airport code at the end of the URL to BER and it should show BHX - BER Tuesday & Saturday I could only get it from 16 April. Note it doesn't work for any of the other new flights.

Pete

Do you know if CWL-PMI / MLA is showing?

There appears to be a new policy... if you don't pay for an assigned seat when checking in online, then you cannot get a boarding card online and must instead queue up to get one at a checkin desk at the airport.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-67613343
Anybody have thoughts ?
I would just regard this as a simple increase in fares by about £15 and act accordingly when buying a ticket.

ryanairextra charges hype
 

If you try to check in more than 24 hours before the flight but having originally booked with a free random seat allocation
- then, it seems, you can either
pay for a seat and then check in straight away
or wait until you are within the 24 hours before checking in with you free random seat

it this what happened here?

The government is meant to be investigating the sharp practices of dodgy airlines like Ryanair where the final price can be more than twice the price of the claimed ticket price.

BHX-BER
 

OP - thank you 😊👍👍👍 that's a great hack to check out on new routes!

As you know I've been desperate for BHX-BER to return, so to have (for now) 5 flights a week to choose from is amazing and also means I don't have to take as much annual leave to go for a long weekend! I'll for sure be using the new FR flights.

If you click on the link for details of online check-in, the page is currently not available. Probably in process of being updated with the new rules
https://www.ryanair.com/gb/en/lp/check-in

Ryanair now denying the change happened.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-67613343
I think something has happened behind the scenes and there is more to the story than is known publicly

Dodgy airlines?
Ryanair is many things but dodgy it is not. It is a total commercial animal and provides a very commercial, safe and punctual service. I think calling it dodgy is stretching it a bit.

In relation to discussion about Ryanair's stance to other low cost airline coming into the Republic of Ireland:

They will retailiate if they can serve the destination (slots) and usually only if they see route as being commercially attractive. It seems if it's a significant LCC competitor like easyJet or Wizz they'll pull out all the stops to push them out.

Yes they don't react to Eurowings, Norwegian, Transavia as mentioned. There are specific reasons here. Eurowings fly to Dusseldorf, and Ryanair do not have slots there, besides Lufthansa group defend their patch very well, we've seen that in Frankfurt and Munich. Ryanair see lower hanging fruit elsewhere. Transavia, same story Ryanair can't get slots at Orly, otherwise they'd be all over this for sure. Norwegian is an interesting one. The brand is strong in Scandinavia and those routes can be thin for non Scandinavian airlines. Ryanair isn't huge in say Oslo, so going to war with Norwegian may not be a good game plan.

In the cases of Wizz, Go, easyJet and bmibaby. They have responded rigourously to each of these. Bmibaby at Cork was an exception, but at that time Ryanair had no base at Cork and clearly didn't have the sort of deal that they have now. They chased bmibaby off DUB/EMA which was at a time a key WW route ..

And to Knock. Ryanair clearly have a special relationship with the airport, which simply is amazing. After Dublin, Knock is the closest airport to where MOL comes from. That might be Pudsey of it, but he seems to want to see the airport progress. The airport introduced the ADF back in the 1990s and Ryanair threatened to withdraw their London route (that's an they had then). The airport said that's fine and had other airlines lined up if Ryanair exited. It never came to pass and Ryanair is solidly supporting the airport. In the case of Norwich, you can be sure if Ryanair accept an ADF , they'll have done so on the basis of attractive commercials. Like somebody said their are exceptions to ever rule...

If this is true that paper boarding passes where forced only to the last 20 passengers to checkin then it looks like they were trying overbooking (or doing temporary overbooking for whatever operational reason).

[QUOTE=toon22;11534863]Hell has indeed frozen over ;)

New routes loaded from bhx
 

Ryanair have loaded it’s with Chania,Paphos,Berlin and Paris Beauvais

Well said!!
I was just about to make a similar remark when I read that insane comment!

They are one of the safest airlines in the world! Their training and maintenance programmes are second to none! Believe me I know this from people who work within the airline itself and the overall industry.

As for the charging of adding seats, it’s done by almost all other airlines. If you don’t like it get a randomly assigned seat from 24hrs before departure via the app or website when you check in…simples!

Dodgy may have been the wrong word to use, but it seems quite clear that what was being referred to is the sort of pricing tactics referred to here. No need to read in more than was intended.

BBC - Airlines could face crackdown on hidden fees

Tickets not being sold online
 

I've been doing a dummy booking on Friday afternoon to fly Stansted-Vilnius on Saturday. For each of the flights on Saturday morning and afternoon, the app shows at least 4 seats available... but says even if it is just 1 person, a ticket can only be purchased at the airport. On other routes departing Stansted at the same time of day, online booking seems fine with no requirement to buy at the airport.

It's possible FR are trying to charge extra, but in that case, why not just raise the quoted fare ? I'm wondering if there is overbooking going on... despite FR's claims not to do so

Try the website instead.
A dummy booking just went through to the payment screen

Agreed that the website allows ticket purchase, while the app does not... but why ? Just a c*ck-up somewhere or is there something behind this ?

Try a different device, the app can be unreliable on some devices. Don't know the reason behind it though

They'll do anything to get more money from people. Anything

Tangier will be a new base and Ryanair will launch domestic flights in Morocco. In total 14 based aircraft in Morocco next summer with 7 in Marrakesh, 3 in Fez, 2 in Agadir and 2 in Tangier.
https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/r...occo-for-2024/

So does Morocco allows EU airlines to operate domestic flights, or is there another arrangement going on here? Moroccan subsidiary?

Exactly the question I posed on the BHX thread.

davidjohnson6 I can't remember the specifics regarding timeframes, but there is a restriction that Ryanair places on last minute tickets to Lithuania, Latvia and (maybe) Estonia where they have to be purchased at the airport rather than online. I believe there was an issue a few years ago regarding potential credit card fraud or something similar.

During a change of flight yesterday evening, there was a significant increase in the fare difference at the very last minute!
I had opted to change the origin of my flight and during the change process on the website the price was quoted as £85, this was no problem as I needed to change the origin. I entered my payment details, accepted the T&C's, received a security code from my bank for the online payment, this was successful and so everything looked good...until I then received a message from the website informing me that the price of one of my products for the flight had changed and therefore I needed to rebook...I was redirected back to my bookings page when after again entering the changes, the price had increased to £199!! Again, as I really needed to modify this flight to another airport, I paid the difference.
But what I didn't understand was why did I have to rebook after going through the whole payment process, to the point where the secure banking process was also completed...I don't know the in's & out's of the Ryanair pricing and ticketing structure, but I can only think there were other passengers booking at the same time which caused the fare to dramatically increase?!
I book with Ryanair around 15-20 times per year and have many times modified my flights, but this is a first for me!

Salerno airport, 50 km south of Naples is due to open to scheduled traffic in summer 2024, with Ryanair credibly mentioned as being interested. Could this happen, or are Ryanair sticking purely with (their substantial operation at) Naples ?
https://www.pasazer.com/news/464557/we,wloszech,zostanie,otwarte,nowe,lotnisko.html

Scheduled ops at Salerno have come and gone over the years although mostly by little known airlines. It is geographically closer to a lot of the notable Amalfi coast destinations but the journey is longer than to NAP because you have to navigate the world famous spectacular Amalfi Drive. I would suggest it has some limited potential for low-frequency domestic routes to bring people to Salerno itself and the beaches to the south but it’s never going to replace NAP.

Does anyone know why you can fly back into MME from Alicante after Oct 24th 2024 but you can’t fly out from MME?
Why would an airline sell seats in only one direction and then return empty?

Do not assume it returns to ALC. You are into Winter shedules (last Sunday on October) so things still fluid. As usually a ALC based aircraft maybe doing a different route after arriving.

More likely that the full schedule hasn't been fully loaded than RYR doing other than a straight ALC-MME-ALC.

If it wasn't the season of goodwill to all men, somebody might suggest the reverse routing was more likely - one way out of Teesside.... :ok:

There is a flight out from Teesside on 24th October.

Then that Sunday, the 27th is the start of the Winter timetable which has not been finalised/ uploaded yet with fares.

FR are throwing a wobbly against travel agents for NOT listing FR flights and fares.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67873695

Maybe I'm being overly simple... but FR don't want OTAs to add a mark-up to FR prices, but they do want OTAs to sell FR tickets and make customers go through manual verification processes. In effect OTAs are meant to do free advertising for FR but not get any money for their efforts.
How is that meant to work ?

It's called any publicity will do ....