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LTNman 18th Jul 2023 10:35


Originally Posted by stewyb (Post 11469183)
It will be interesting to see if the airport can attract additional airlines apart from easyJet for S24

I wasn’t aware that Easyjet had announced a summer 24 program from Southampton. Did I miss something?

SouthernAlliance 18th Jul 2023 12:23


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 11469460)
I wasn’t aware that Easyjet had announced a summer 24 program from Southampton. Did I miss something?

Nothing announced but I would say it’s highly likely there will be some flying by them next summer

RW20 18th Jul 2023 16:32


Originally Posted by SouthernAlliance (Post 11469511)
Nothing announced but I would say it’s highly likely there will be some flying by them next summer

This is based on assumption only,as time goes on Summer 2024 looks less likely,the airport needs new destinations ,however without a based LCC airline there are great limitations for expansion.

SouthernAlliance 18th Jul 2023 18:47


Originally Posted by RW20 (Post 11469620)
This is based on assumption only,as time goes on Summer 2024 looks less likely,the airport needs new destinations ,however without a based LCC airline there are great limitations for expansion.

Don't easyJet announce new summer routes around Oct-Dec? Maybe there is still time

rog747 19th Jul 2023 07:17


Originally Posted by GLCYZ (Post 11469456)
BACF doesn’t require a second set of steps during fuelling so long as slide deployment areas are clear of obstructions. A SOU rule, perhaps?

The crews on my SOU-JMK and PMI flights (both the Flight Deck and Cabin) told me they needed 2 sets to board pax during refuelling, so we had to stay crammed to the rafters on the Coach for 10-15 minutes, which was all rather unpleasant ---
and that has always been the case of having the need for 2 sets in my whole airport work career as Duty Officer at both LHR & LGW.

It is news to me that you can today board pax during refuelling with just one set of steps - as you say perhaps nowadays there are varying rules >?

From your nametag do you work for BACF at LCY>?

cheers R.

ATNotts 19th Jul 2023 07:22


Originally Posted by SouthernAlliance (Post 11469669)
Don't easyJet announce new summer routes around Oct-Dec? Maybe there is still time

There is, but surely if any bucket and spade destinations were in the offing then they would have been put on sale with the Easyjet Holidays release a month or so ago?

RW20 19th Jul 2023 08:08


Originally Posted by ATNotts (Post 11469925)
There is, but surely if any bucket and spade destinations were in the offing then they would have been put on sale with the Easyjet Holidays release a month or so ago?

This is true,maybe the expansion down the road to sun route( where incidently Bournemouth reached 100,000 pax in May) has stopped any LCC from coming in.
Certainly BACF have further reduced there routes,SOU needs some announcement sooner then later.

Pain in the R's 19th Jul 2023 08:13

So as it stands all easyjet services from Southampton end in March. I would have thought easyjet jet would have added something by now but there is still plenty of time.

SouthernAlliance 19th Jul 2023 16:05


Originally Posted by RW20 (Post 11469949)
This is true,maybe the expansion down the road to sun route( where incidently Bournemouth reached 100,000 pax in May) has stopped any LCC from coming in.
Certainly BACF have further reduced their routes,SOU needs some announcement sooner then later.

It will also be interesting to see what impact any summer services to the sun from SOU would have on passenger numbers at BOH. Wasn’t this one of the main reasons why BOH put in a rejection to the extension application?

SouthernAlliance 24th Jul 2023 09:06

Seems Eastern has removed MAN from sale, how long before the ORY route does the same?

rog747 24th Jul 2023 09:45

SOU-MAN canned ?
 

Originally Posted by SouthernAlliance (Post 11472837)
Seems Eastern has removed MAN from sale, how long before the ORY route does the same?


Oh great, I was just about to plan and book SOU-MAN-SOU flights to visit an old pal in Liverpool !
UGH!
Nothing flying from EXT, nor from BOH to MAN either :(

But I can fly from SOU to MAN via AMS on KLM, via GCI on Aurigny, or even on AER LINGUS via DUB!!
:P with good connections too

stewyb 24th Jul 2023 10:11


Originally Posted by rog747 (Post 11472858)
Oh great, I was just about to plan and book SOU-MAN-SOU flights to visit an old pal in Liverpool !
UGH!
Nothing flying from EXT, nor from BOH to MAN either :(

But I can fly from SOU to MAN via AMS on KLM, via GCI on Aurigny, or even on AER LINGUS via DUB!!
:P with good connections too

Incredible to think this route was for many years the airports busiest with over 200k pax per annum. Loganair have applied for slots so this may be the reason for Eastern’s departure!

GLCYZ 24th Jul 2023 13:53


Originally Posted by rog747 (Post 11469921)
The crews on my SOU-JMK and PMI flights (both the Flight Deck and Cabin) told me they needed 2 sets to board pax during refuelling, so we had to stay crammed to the rafters on the Coach for 10-15 minutes, which was all rather unpleasant ---
and that has always been the case of having the need for 2 sets in my whole airport work career as Duty Officer at both LHR & LGW.

It is news to me that you can today board pax during refuelling with just one set of steps - as you say perhaps nowadays there are varying rules >?

From your nametag do you work for BACF at LCY>?

cheers R.

Next time tell the crew to read their Company Ops Manual OMA section 8.2.1.1.2 which states "It is acceptable to use a single set of stairs as long as the other main doors meet the above criteria" (ie. ground beneath exits and slide deployment areas free from obstructions).

rog747 24th Jul 2023 14:24


Originally Posted by GLCYZ (Post 11472999)
Next time tell the crew to read their Company Ops Manual OMA section 8.2.1.1.2 which states "It is acceptable to use a single set of stairs as long as the other main doors meet the above criteria" (ie. ground beneath exits and slide deployment areas free from obstructions).

Thanks for the BACF update, I think the issue here at SOU was that the baggage was still being loaded, and the large Bowser was likely blocking some areas too....stuff was all over the place front and back, so perhaps they were not happy?

RW20 25th Jul 2023 20:04

Update from Runway extension Contractors ,all is on time to finish by 17/08,subject to weather!
Lets hope for some airline announcements very soon!

​​

stewyb 25th Jul 2023 20:11


Originally Posted by RW20 (Post 11473801)
Update from Runway extension Contractors ,all is on time to finish by 17/08,subject to weather!
Lets hope for some airline announcements very soon!

​​

Beneficial use of extension very soon, you may have latest info on dates!

Sotonsean 25th Jul 2023 20:13

There has been no further updates on the airport's runway extension APP since the 11 July. Hopefully your correct with your assumption that the runway extension is scheduled for completion by the date you have quoted. Hopefully the APP will be updated this week with some more recent drone images of the extension.

RW20 25th Jul 2023 20:34


Originally Posted by Sotonsean (Post 11473805)
There has been no further updates on the airport's runway extension APP since the 11 July. Hopefully your correct with your assumption that the runway extension is scheduled for completion by the date you have quoted. Hopefully the APP will be updated this week with some more recent drone images of the extension.

No assumption,message from contractor projects manager!

stewyb 25th Jul 2023 21:21


Originally Posted by RW20 (Post 11473801)
Update from Runway extension Contractors ,all is on time to finish by 17/08,subject to weather!
Lets hope for some airline announcements very soon!

​​

With regards to routes and airlines RW20, keen to hear your thoughts?

TCAS FAN 25th Jul 2023 22:24


Originally Posted by Sotonsean (Post 11473805)
There has been no further updates on the airport's runway extension APP since the 11 July. Hopefully your correct with your assumption that the runway extension is scheduled for completion by the date you have quoted. Hopefully the APP will be updated this week with some more recent drone images of the extension.

Understood that most of the asphalt has been laid and, subject to weather, may be completed this week. Assume that it is then going to be grooved.

New runway markings to be applied to the extension, hopefully quickly followed by the airport’s surveyors visiting to verify (for CAA’s benefit) the new runway length + declared distances.

New lighting to be installed on the extension, set up and then flight checked?

Assume surface friction characteristics of new asphalt will need verification?

That all done and paperwork submitted to CAA by mid August, IMHO early/mid September for the NOTAM detailing the new runway dimensions + declared distances to appear to signify that the CAA have signed off the project.


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