TCAS FAN - ties in perfectly with official opening date of 21st Sept (tbc), until then the extension will have beneficial use only
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And then what? I am guessing the big wait and then frustration with the lack of business.
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Originally Posted by stewyb
(Post 11473847)
With regards to routes and airlines RW20, keen to hear your thoughts?
Come on now stewyb surely your better than that. |
How many return flights a day and new routes that actually need the runway extension would the good people here find as an acceptable number and were would the threshold be that triggers disappointment?
I am assuming easyJet’s temporary domestic routes don’t count, as they could have operated anyway without the runway extension. |
I dont see a lot coming for 2024,as I believe they would have been announced by now. SOU biggest problem is there operational hours,so no based LCC planes!
I think the Canaries could be a bet for the future. |
Originally Posted by Sotonsean
(Post 11473916)
With all due respect haven't we gone over this question over and over again and on so many occasions. And there's me thinking that you had put a stop to it.
Come on now stewyb surely your better than that. |
about time the airport announced new routes. So disappointed the runway is almost complete and nothing has been added with airlines or destinations. If they want to add passengers and compete with BOH they have to sort it out and announce something quick, or else it’s the same old boring domestics and once weekly sun routes
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You’re blaming the airport yet it is the airlines that set the agenda. Maybe they are just not interested?
Southampton made a speculative investment with no agreements signed for new routes before work commenced. They hope that once finished that will change. |
Originally Posted by LTNman
(Post 11474403)
You’re blaming the airport yet it is the airlines that set the agenda. Maybe they are just not interested?
Southampton made a speculative investment with no agreements signed for new routes before work commenced. They hope that once finished that will change. |
Originally Posted by LTNman
(Post 11474403)
Southampton made a speculative investment with no agreements signed for new routes before work commenced. Does the previous performance of SOU's owners suggest they are the type to make speculative investments on the off chance? |
Originally Posted by LTNman
(Post 11474403)
You’re blaming the airport yet it is the airlines that set the agenda. Maybe they are just not interested?
Southampton made a speculative investment with no agreements signed for new routes before work commenced. They hope that once finished that will change. Its an investment for the long-term and if there is negligible benefit in year one (2023/4) I would imagine the marketing goal is summer 2025 onwards. |
Originally Posted by ATNotts
(Post 11474437)
No airport ever extended their runway or doubled the size of their terminal on 'a promise' from an airline to use it.
Its an investment for the long-term and if there is negligible benefit in year one (2023/4) I would imagine the marketing goal is summer 2025 onwards. |
Originally Posted by SouthernAlliance
(Post 11474439)
Didn’t SEN announce a multi year partnership with EZY a few months prior to the extension being opened and in time for London2012?
Of course at DSA it was done the other way round (infrastructure then business) and ultimately that didn't turn out well. |
Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 11474428)
Does the previous performance of SOU's owners suggest they are the type to make speculative investments on the off chance? |
Personally I think a point that is being missed in this debate is how much capacity EZY has to expand at SOU at the moment. For S24 their priority for the South East must be to maximise LGW slots. I appreciate that due to opening hours, any loco operations at SOU are like to be by aircraft based overseas but if I was running EZY and had a slot pair at LGW and the choice between using them (or losing them) vs operating a rotation into SOU it would be a no brainer.
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And how many aircraft they have. Remember, 3 have been allocated for the new BHX base opening March 2024.
I would wager that an EZY base will not happen in 2024 but that away based flying by EZY will, which is how they built up BHX into a base (admittedly over a very long time). They don't normally release their flight only summer schedules until mid Autumn so there's plenty of time for some away based routes to be announced for SOU. |
Why Easyjet are unlikely to ever base any aircraft at Southampton
Southampton Flights operate between the following times Monday to Friday 06:30 - 22:30, Saturday 06:30 - 22:15 and Sunday 07:30 - 22:30. Whilst passenger flights may only be scheduled between 06:30 – 23:00 (a limited number between 23:00 – 23:30) delayed aircraft may still operate back to Southend during the night-time period. |
LTNMan,
You'll be branded as a 'troll' by some, but given that straight jacket you're probably spot on. You can see any application, even just for a minor extension of operating hours or a little latitude taking months, more likely years, to go through the planning process. |
Originally Posted by GayFriendly
(Post 11474588)
And how many aircraft they have. Remember, 3 have been allocated for the new BHX base opening March 2024.
I would wager that an EZY base will not happen in 2024 but that away based flying by EZY will, which is how they built up BHX into a base (admittedly over a very long time). They don't normally release their flight only summer schedules until mid Autumn so there's plenty of time for some away based routes to be announced for SOU. |
Actually EasyJet are feeling a little constrained at Gatwick at the moment. 80 plus aircraft is proving tough to accom and operate especially as they tend to have two intense departure waves a day. Also any slots they still have leased from BA will need to be returned. So not impossible they may be looking elsewhere. Surely even overseas originating flights are a good thing. It doesn’t need to be a base.
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