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TheSpiddalKid 6th Sep 2023 11:56

Is there any comparator of other airports that lack based aircraft but are financially stable. What kind of flight numbers and/or passenger numbers may be needed to sustain operations?

davidjohnson6 6th Sep 2023 12:08

1 million pax per year seems to be a number often quoted as a rough benchmark for a financially viable "full service" airport. In 2019, SEN saw over 2m pax

SKOJB 6th Sep 2023 12:21


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 11498133)
1 million pax per year seems to be a number often quoted as a rough benchmark for a financially viable "full service" airport. In 2019, SEN saw over 2m pax

Sounds about right as during the runway extension application at SOU, it was suggested that between 1m-1.2m was break even for a viable future. Of course SOU doesn’t have any substantial ancillary income from other aviation services on site!

Barling Magna 6th Sep 2023 22:53

I think you missed the humour in AirportPlanner1's post. There's certainly a long way to go!

LTNman 20th Sep 2023 19:04

https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/237...ght-ownership/



Esken insists that Southend Airport has “strong potential” with the right ownership.
Clearly not enough potential to stop Esken selling it
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jmdavies86 26th Sep 2023 06:29

An interesting RNS update from Esken this morning; it would appear Carlyle Global Infrastructure Fund are taking legal action against LSA...


Esken has received notification that documents filed by CGI in the High Court have been served on LSA, claiming certain technical breaches by LSA with respect to the convertible loan agreement. Esken does not agree with CGI's claimed interpretation of the convertible loan agreement and will support LSA in defending the action vigorously. In addition, Esken will continue with its sale process to find the right long term owner for the airport.


Full statement: https://tools.eurolandir.com/tools/P...wpf&v=redesign

UPDATE (to include link to media source): https://www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk...e-1027677.html

Expressflight 26th Sep 2023 13:33

I see that the matter is described as a 'technical breach' rather than 'a material breach' of contract. The former is usually something of a relatively minor nature so I wonder if there may be more to this move than is immediately apparent.

SWBKCB 26th Sep 2023 14:00


As stated in the trading update issued on 30 August 2023, the Board has been encouraged by the level of initial interest received in relation to the airport. The return to pre-pandemic demand throughout the travel sector means there is now positive traction in performance, with the outlook for Summer 2024 travel looking strongly positive.
Aviation bits from the statement

jmdavies86 26th Sep 2023 15:16


Originally Posted by Expressflight (Post 11509435)
...I wonder if there may be more to this move than is immediately apparent.

Opinions expressed elsewhere seem to suggest that it looks like an attempt by Carlyle to gain control of SEN on the cheap...?!

asdf1234 29th Sep 2023 18:23


Originally Posted by Expressflight (Post 11509435)
I see that the matter is described as a 'technical breach' rather than 'a material breach' of contract. The former is usually something of a relatively minor nature so I wonder if there may be more to this move than is immediately apparent.

A breach by the borrower will lead to a minimum of £193,750,00 (less any interest that has already been paid on the loan) becoming immediately payable to the lender.
Although the lender has defined the current breach as technical in nature, a breach of the contract is just that - a breach. The penalty for the breach is not something Esken can pay.
All of Esken's assets including the airport are pledged to the lender in support of the loan. I'm guessing a change of ownership in favour of the lender will be the end result.
The only question remaining is what does Carlyle want to do with the airport site? Underperforming, cash draining airport, or lucrative housing?

LTNman 29th Sep 2023 18:36

Something wrong with that figure, commas in the right place?

davidjohnson6 29th Sep 2023 18:48

Would the council really give permission for a significant change of use ?

Or maybe Gatwick could pay £250m to Carlyle, and then persuade the PM that if they get full permission to operate twin runways, they will shut Southend down, and HM Govt can say that the number of active runways in the south east hasn't changed so the green crowd needn't worry ?

asdf1234 29th Sep 2023 19:42


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 11511644)
Something wrong with that figure, commas in the right place?

£193.75m

pabely 29th Sep 2023 22:27

I thought the loan was only £125m https://www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk...rt-954065.html

LTNman 30th Sep 2023 05:56

I was thinking the same, as I have never seen a figure of £193 million mentioned before.

So what exactly is a technical breach? Examples please. Either they are paying their loans off or they are not. Have they borrowed more money to pay the interest payments or have the loan repayments been deferred by arrangement?

asdf1234 1st Oct 2023 07:16


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 11511751)

In the event that the Lender does not exercise its rights of Conversion prior to the maturity date of the Loan, and in certain other circumstances (including following the occurrence of an event of default and on the final maturity date of the Loan), the Loan shall be repayable at the greater of: (i) an amount that achieves a 10 per cent. Internal Rate of Return for the Lender for the period from the Draw-Down Date to such repayment date (taking into account any Cash Interest paid during such period) and (ii) £193,750,000 less any Cash Interest paid during such period.

Expressflight 1st Oct 2023 10:28


Originally Posted by asdf1234 (Post 11512366)
In the event that the Lender does not exercise its rights of Conversion prior to the maturity date of the Loan, and in certain other circumstances (including following the occurrence of an event of default and on the final maturity date of the Loan), the Loan shall be repayable at the greater of: (i) an amount that achieves a 10 per cent. Internal Rate of Return for the Lender for the period from the Draw-Down Date to such repayment date (taking into account any Cash Interest paid during such period) and (ii) £193,750,000 less any Cash Interest paid during such period.

So you seem to be saying that if Esken default on the loan a sum of £193,750,00 would be payable. I accept that your calculation may be correct in that event. However, this legal case relates to "technical breaches by LSA with respect to the convertible loan agreement ". Do you have additional information that leads you to the conclusion that this is tantamount to Esken defaulting? I'm not suggesting your conclusions are wrong just that I cannot find any evidence to support them.

SWBKCB 1st Oct 2023 10:48


and in certain other circumstances (including following the occurrence of an event of default and on the final maturity date of the Loan)
Not necessary a default, but what are the 'other circumstances' other than a default?

LTNman 9th Oct 2023 07:31

https://www.yellowad.co.uk/southend-...-covid-heyday/

pabely 9th Oct 2023 19:02

"Indeed, according to MS Aviation, Luton now has three Fixed Base Operators (FBO)" NetJets I assume included as they have hangar of their own but do they have a terminal- Signature 2? Sorry, not a Southend question but always thought keeping FBO in house at Southend rather getting one of the big boys in is holding them back.


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