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AirportPlanner1 5th Aug 2023 22:15

At some point AMS has been increased to 4x weekly for winter, with new evening flights on Thursdays and Sundays.

Expressflight 6th Aug 2023 09:31


Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1 (Post 11480020)
At some point AMS has been increased to 4x weekly for winter, with new evening flights on Thursdays and Sundays.

With reference to the new Thursday and Sunday flights, it looks like the AMS-based aircraft will operate another flight between the 12:30 arrival SEN and the departure back to AMS at 19:55. Maybe AGP or FAO will continue through the winter.

Expressflight 7th Aug 2023 17:55

Recent rumours on the Teesside forum that the Oil Spill Response B727-200s are changing their base at MME to become based at SEN instead may be true as G-OSRB is flight planned into SEN tomorrow afternoon from Djibouti via Chania, Greece.

SKOJB 7th Aug 2023 18:35


Originally Posted by Expressflight (Post 11480821)
Recent rumours on the Teesside forum that the Oil Spill Response B727-200s are changing their base at MME to become based at SEN instead may be true as G-OSRB is flight planned into SEN tomorrow afternoon from Djibouti via Chania, Greece.

That will go down well with the locals. However, would be a hop, skip and jump to Lasham for MRO

N707ZS 7th Aug 2023 20:23

Wonder why not just keep them at Lasham. Is there a spare hangar at Southend.

mikkie4 8th Aug 2023 10:37

Due in at 1500hrs

DC3 Dave 8th Aug 2023 11:49


Originally Posted by mikkie4 (Post 11481153)
Due in at 1500hrs

Do not worry. We will hear it!

Update: No we will not. Cancelled!

btw does anyone know why Eastern Airways E190 is popping over to SEN from LCY? This has happened a few times lately.

Expressflight 8th Aug 2023 15:32


Originally Posted by DC3 Dave (Post 11481191)
Do not worry. We will hear it!

Update: No we will not. Cancelled!

btw does anyone know why Eastern Airways E190 is popping over to SEN from LCY? This has happened a few times lately.

I shouldn't start rubbing your hands too soon regarding how noisy these 727s will be. Both are, in fact, 727RE aircraft which were re-engined with MD-80 engines installed in No. 1 & 3 position; only the centre engine remains in its original form. Not only is this variant very much quieter but it's field performance is vastly improved which is an important factor when operating at high weights out of SEN. Also the positioning flight from Djibouti has simply been delayed by 24 hours.

Regarding the Eastern E 190, it looks to be carrying out the necessary line training sectors into LCY in preparation for the operation of ITA routes into that airport this autumn.

DC3 Dave 8th Aug 2023 16:11


Originally Posted by Expressflight (Post 11481321)
I shouldn't start rubbing your hands too soon regarding how noisy these 727s will be. Both are, in fact, 727RE aircraft which were re-engined with MD-80 engines installed in No. 1 & 3 position; only the centre engine remains in its original form. Not only is this variant very much quieter but it's field performance is vastly improved which is an important factor when operating at high weights out of SEN. Also the positioning flight from Djibouti has simply been delayed by 24 hours.

Regarding the Eastern E 190, it looks to be carrying out the necessary line training sectors into LCY in preparation for the operation of ITA routes into that airport this autumn.

Thank you for the info. Interesting stuff.

Flightmech 8th Aug 2023 20:42


Originally Posted by Expressflight (Post 11481321)
I shouldn't start rubbing your hands too soon regarding how noisy these 727s will be. Both are, in fact, 727RE aircraft which were re-engined with MD-80 engines installed in No. 1 & 3 position; only the centre engine remains in its original form. Not only is this variant very much quieter but it's field performance is vastly improved which is an important factor when operating at high weights out of SEN. Also the positioning flight from Djibouti has simply been delayed by 24 hours.

Regarding the Eastern E 190, it looks to be carrying out the necessary line training sectors into LCY in preparation for the operation of ITA routes into that airport this autumn.

The OSRA 727s have the PW JT8D-217C/219 (Valsan) engines which are a little quieter. When they flew for us (FedEx) they were used on the longer South America routes to VCP & CCS.

colinhunn 9th Aug 2023 07:37

Oil Spill Response B727
 
Cancelled for a second day according to FR24.

Any news on why they’re de-basing from MME?

AirportPlanner1 10th Aug 2023 09:46

Looks like there are some changes over the winter schedule, CDG drops to 2x weekly at weekends from New Year to Half Term (although for comparison LTN goes from 4-5 per day midweek to 2 over the same period) and GVA midweek is priced to deter bookings.

pabely 10th Aug 2023 11:47


Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1 (Post 11482246)
Looks like there are some changes over the winter schedule, CDG drops to 2x weekly at weekends from New Year to Half Term (although for comparison LTN goes from 4-5 per day midweek to 2 over the same period) and GVA midweek is priced to deter bookings.

Always the quieter time of year.
GVA has to compete with Sky Alps now from STN, 4 hrs 30 mins in a DHC8, nice! I would have thought such a service, at the price they are offering would have been better suited at LCY.
If the plane goes tech, oops.
If I book EZY from LTN and it goes Tech the next flight is in an hour!

pamann 10th Aug 2023 12:28


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 11482305)
GVA has to compete with Sky Alps now from STN, 4 hrs 30 mins in a DHC8, nice!

Not sure how you’re working out your timings?

It’s blocked at 2hrs 35m ex U.K.

pabely 10th Aug 2023 16:17


Originally Posted by pamann (Post 11482328)
Not sure how you’re working out your timings?

It’s blocked at 2hrs 35m ex U.K.

Not what their booking engine was saying last night, must have corrected.

AirportPlanner1 10th Aug 2023 19:02

Geneva is nowhere near Bolzano. May as well say Paris is competition.

davidjohnson6 10th Aug 2023 21:57

Geneva is physically nowhere near Bolzano... but the French/Swiss Alps and the Italian Dolomites both compete for UK residents wanting a week of skiing

DC3 Dave 11th Aug 2023 11:28


Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1 (Post 11482246)
Looks like there are some changes over the winter schedule, CDG drops to 2x weekly at weekends from New Year to Half Term (although for comparison LTN goes from 4-5 per day midweek to 2 over the same period) and GVA midweek is priced to deter bookings.

GVA midweek has reverted to normal pricing.

Expressflight 14th Aug 2023 14:19

Oil Spill Response have today announced that London Southend airport is the new operational base for their two Boeing 727-200RE aircraft. SEN was chosen because it offers "unique side-by-side hangarage". G-OSRB arrived at SEN from Djibouti yesterday afternoon and G-OSRA will join that aircraft on completion of current maintenance at Lasham.

pabely 14th Aug 2023 22:23

Just one question, looking at pictures of the 727 parked up, will the tail actually get into the hangars?


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