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mart901 7th Jun 2023 20:56

Gazmo- where's the increase on BHX? Not challenging you just wondering as it looks similar to what I'd seen before for winter.

LGW-BHD/BFS - I think in general the BFS route has more frequency than any other Belfast-London route with many 6x daily days in winter. BHD is 3x daily from this summer.
As to why split operation - the simple answer is it keeps the competition out/at bay. For as long as EZY do BHD to say BRS or LPL then EIR won't and neither will any other random operator. The more complex way of looking at it is the FR effect, it gives EZY another card to play, somewhere to move capacity to and a bargaining chip with BFS.


GAZMO 7th Jun 2023 21:32

Mart
I think it was BFSBHD stated that
i agree with you that it appears as previous

LBA up to five weekly with EZY

BFS BHD 8th Jun 2023 10:29

EasyJet - Winter 2023/24
 
EasyJet has Jersey on sale for Winter 2023/24 operating on Wednesdays and Saturdays using A320.

Looking at based aircraft seat maps it looks like all seven aircraft will be A320s for Winter 2023/24.
So is this Summer possibly the end of the 2x based A319s at BFS?

True Blue 8th Jun 2023 19:39

I have been a very regular user of BFS-LGW for many years now. For a long period, this route would have had 7 flights on busier days, usually 6 say Tuesday/Wednesday. However, look now at 6th March 2024, a Wednesday. From BFS, there are departures at 6.40, 14.30, 18.30 and 20.55. Now 4 departures. From BHD, departures at 7.40, 9.45 and 14.10. So now the mid-morning departures that used to be at BFS, 9.45 and 14.10, now operate from BHD. The range of flight times ex BFS is now not nearly as good, whilst from BHD, the last flight to LGW is at 14.10. Easy was never very clever at operating a good spread of flights, frequently you could see an early departure at say 6.30ish, then the next not until maybe 4.00pm. If these flights were operated from one airport, they could have a great spread of flights throughout the day. But instead we have stupidity. I have been travelling for long enough to know that this is a great way to ruin a route.

allnamestaken1 8th Jun 2023 20:01


Originally Posted by True Blue (Post 11448038)
I have been a very regular user of BFS-LGW for many years now. For a long period, this route would have had 7 flights on busier days, usually 6 say Tuesday/Wednesday. However, look now at 6th March 2024, a Wednesday. From BFS, there are departures at 6.40, 14.30, 18.30 and 20.55. Now 4 departures. From BHD, departures at 7.40, 9.45 and 14.10. So now the mid-morning departures that used to be at BFS, 9.45 and 14.10, now operate from BHD. The range of flight times ex BFS is now not nearly as good, whilst from BHD, the last flight to LGW is at 14.10. Easy was never very clever at operating a good spread of flights, frequently you could see an early departure at say 6.30ish, then the next not until maybe 4.00pm. If these flights were operated from one airport, they could have a great spread of flights throughout the day. But instead we have stupidity. I have been travelling for long enough to know that this is a great way to ruin a route.

Totally agree with what your saying but to be honest i think Easyjet couldn't give a dam because they can do what they want knowing to well there is no competition.

True Blue 8th Jun 2023 20:15

allnamestaken1, you are right. However, when companies start to think like that, it is usually the beginning of a bad road. Might take a while, but it will come and it is usually recognised too late. I have seen it often.

DUB19 9th Jun 2023 14:55

ACL Slot Report W23
 
Slot report shows Ryanair have slots for:

2x weekly Warsaw
2x weekly Porto
2x weekly Grenoble
1x weekly Turin

GAZMO 9th Jun 2023 15:11

Great news
just wish they would finalise schedules ASAP

BFS BHD 9th Jun 2023 17:19


Originally Posted by DUB19 (Post 11448443)
Slot report shows Ryanair have slots for:

2x weekly Warsaw
2x weekly Porto
2x weekly Grenoble
1x weekly Turin

One other airport that seems to have slots for Ryanair is Lanzarote at 2x weekly. TFS slots showing as cancelled.


Also Fedex looks to be starting CDG-MAN-BFS-MAN-CDG at 4-5x weekly for Winter 2023/24.

GAZMO 12th Jun 2023 13:02

At least it gives BFS another year to get ready!!!

Fly Atlantic Push Back Launch Date To Spring 2025 | Northern Ireland Travel News (nitravelnews.com)

ATNotts 12th Jun 2023 14:38

I really would like this venture to succeed, but it looks like another 'flight of fantasy', though rather more realistic than 'Global Airlines', perhaps Hans Airways (looking to have failed) and Go (sorry Fly) Pop that have been in formation for years and still not got an AOC are better comparisons.

It beggars belief that lenders and entrepreneurs keep chucking money at these projects.

GAZMO 13th Jun 2023 15:02

Jet 2
 
Jet2.com and Jet2holidays Announce Expansion from Belfast International Airport for Spring and Summer 2024 | Northern Ireland Travel News (nitravelnews.com)

SealinkBF 13th Jun 2023 15:39

It seems odd that the airport has omitted easyJet Holidays from their list of tour operators, despite the image at the top of the page, or have I missed something?

Tour Operators at BFS (belfastairport.com)

cuthere 13th Jun 2023 18:16

Whilst any modern business should have an up to date, accurate website, I think there are other areas they should be focusing on sorting with greater urgency.

True Blue 13th Jun 2023 18:38

Have to agree with the previous comment.

GAZMO 22nd Jun 2023 18:13

Tui
 
https://nitravelnews.com/news/tui-ce...ional-airport/

more flights for 2024

BFS BHD 22nd Jun 2023 19:28

Ryanair - Winter 2023/24
 
New routes to Lanzarote, Turin, Porto & Warsaw Modlin now in system. No sign of Grenoble.

Alteagod 22nd Jun 2023 19:54

Finally Porto.

GAZMO 23rd Jun 2023 13:28


Originally Posted by BFS BHD (Post 11455245)
New routes to Lanzarote, Turin, Porto & Warsaw Modlin now in system. No sign of Grenoble.

Cannot see on App or Website!!
Can you give source?

ESCNI 24th Jun 2023 08:32

Ryanair planning new winter flights to Porto, Turin and Warsaw from Belfast International - The Irish News

Ryanair Expected To Announce Four New Winter Destinations From Belfast International | Northern Ireland Travel News (nitravelnews.com)

SealinkBF 24th Jun 2023 13:30


Originally Posted by cuthere (Post 11450474)
Whilst any modern business should have an up to date, accurate website, I think there are other areas they should be focusing on sorting with greater urgency.

I don't think the people responsible for the website would be the same as those working on the airport experience.

cuthere 24th Jun 2023 18:51

What?!? You mean the dude in Burgerking doesn’t do the refuelling and website?

mart901 26th Jun 2023 09:54


Originally Posted by BFS BHD (Post 11455245)
New routes to Lanzarote, Turin, Porto & Warsaw Modlin now in system. No sign of Grenoble.


Any on sale date?

BFS BHD 26th Jun 2023 12:42

TUI - Summer 2024
 
Two new routes to Larnaca and Enfidha to go on sale soon for Summer 2024 both operating once a week.

mart901 26th Jun 2023 12:43


Originally Posted by BFS BHD (Post 11457182)
Two new routes to Larnaca and Enfidha to go on sale soon for Summer 2024 both operating once a week for S24

Beat me!! Enfidha is a 3rd party operator, not sure about Larnaca yet.

GAZMO 26th Jun 2023 14:08

From ni news

https://nitravelnews.com/news/tui-an...international/

BFS BHD 26th Jun 2023 17:29


Originally Posted by mart901 (Post 11457101)
Any on sale date?

All On Sale Now!

mart901 27th Jun 2023 09:36


Originally Posted by BFS BHD (Post 11457320)
All On Sale Now!

Cheers

Also U2 have the Spring 24 in sale, KRK back.

GAZMO 27th Jun 2023 14:58

Tui
 

Originally Posted by GAZMO (Post 11457218)

Will Tui announcement lead to a second aircraft being based at BFS?
Reus (Costa Dorada) 2 going to 4 next year
Lanzarote 1 going to 2 next year
Larnaca 0 going to 1 next year
Dalaman 1 currently being operated by Freebird airlines

Tunisia looks like non based airline

True Blue 27th Jun 2023 15:06

Tui are cutting Ibiza and Malaga next year.

True Blue 27th Jun 2023 15:09

The Malaga slot seems to be moving to the Lanzarote service.

GAZMO 29th Jun 2023 12:24

Jet2
 
https://nitravelnews.com/news/jet2-c...ional-airport/

would be nice to see a few more city break destinations !

mart901 5th Jul 2023 21:16

HRG appearing on sale on the easyJet app

allnamestaken1 5th Jul 2023 21:38

Checked the Easyjet app flights seem to be operating every Tuesday through the winter to Hurghada.

mart901 11th Jul 2023 17:21

TUI showing AYT next summer with a third-party airline originating from AYT so assuming Freebird or something like.

allnamestaken1 11th Jul 2023 17:31

With Sunwings gone after this year is Tui heading for 2 based aircraft at BFS.

True Blue 11th Jul 2023 18:28

I am curious about the scheduling currently being operated by Easyjet. Another poster, maybe on the Easyjet thread, was not very complimentary towards Easyjet on this topic a few days ago. This afternoon, they had a departure to Newcastle( from Bfs) at 16.55, to be operated by A319 - G-EZBR. They also had a departure to Malage at 18.00, to also be operated by this same aircraft. This aircraft landed back at Bfs at 19.12 and now the Malaga is delayed to 20.05. The departure times I have quoted are also those shown on the Easyjet site, so not a mistake. So how could they time an aircraft to operate a flight from Bfs to Malaga at 18.00 when said aircraft is on the ground at Newcastle being prepared for it's return flight? Bfs - Newcastle operated on time.

BFS BHD 11th Jul 2023 18:45


Originally Posted by mart901 (Post 11465696)
TUI showing AYT next summer with a third-party airline originating from AYT so assuming Freebird or something like.

DLM, PMI, HER & RHO may also see extra flights for S24 using non based. Showing when selecting them in 'Flight Only' but not appearing in Timetable.

allnamestaken1 11th Jul 2023 19:55

I wouldn't be surprised also if Tui don't buy seats on the easy flight's to Hurghada,they already do it on some other destinations.

PinOnTheRight 11th Jul 2023 20:02


Originally Posted by True Blue (Post 11465725)
I am curious about the scheduling currently being operated by Easyjet. Another poster, maybe on the Easyjet thread, was not very complimentary towards Easyjet on this topic a few days ago. This afternoon, they had a departure to Newcastle( from Bfs) at 16.55, to be operated by A319 - G-EZBR. They also had a departure to Malage at 18.00, to also be operated by this same aircraft. This aircraft landed back at Bfs at 19.12 and now the Malaga is delayed to 20.05. The departure times I have quoted are also those shown on the Easyjet site, so not a mistake. So how could they time an aircraft to operate a flight from Bfs to Malaga at 18.00 when said aircraft is on the ground at Newcastle being prepared for it's return flight? Bfs - Newcastle operated on time.

Last Tuesday, the aircraft that operated the 1655 NCL then operated the 2000 LTN so suspect today was a result of disruption rather than a summer long debacle of mis-scheduling. If it was to follow the same aircraft scheduling as last week, it would have been operated by the aircraft returning from FAO at 1710, but today this has been delayed until 1938.


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