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Albert Hall 11th Jan 2021 17:26


I think Flybe did, to a degree, have a similar strategy to Porter with their operations out of City airport, where did they quite well
Flybe's operations at LCY, and the LHR services, were an utter calamity. I am not sure where you get the idea that they "did quite well" but they did not. BHD was the only route at LCY which was any good and that only did OK because of an overall deal on airport charges that forced Flybe to fly lots of other LCY routes to generate volume. The rest and particularly EDI-LCY were complete basketcases. If Flybe 2 want to replicate Flybe 1, I hope they have deep pockets.

ATNotts 12th Jan 2021 08:11

But FlyBe were never set up as a low cost airline, the routes they appear to have done best on were those where they weren't competing with a low cost carrier, or were in code share agreements with.

cavokblues 12th Jan 2021 08:15


Originally Posted by Albert Hall (Post 10965791)
Flybe's operations at LCY, and the LHR services, were an utter calamity. I am not sure where you get the idea that they "did quite well" but they did not.

Fair point, mine was purely anecdotal and I assumed because the Edinburgh, Exeter, Amsterdam routes had been there for 6 years or so they must have been making some money on them, but not sure that's even true with Flybe. I recall reading something that when Saad came in 59% of their routes were loss making!

AirportPlanner1 12th Jan 2021 14:53

Was EDI-LCY a basket case? That’s the one I took a few times and always seemed to do well for loads and as an outsider I’d have said fares weren’t too low either. I’ve seen it said a lot that BHD-LCY was a real winner.

The logic and strategy of the LCY network at the start seemed sound but clearly some routes didn’t work at all - some a surprise, some less so - and some were trimmed.

But the whole London strategy quickly became muddled and the LCY network itself represented a u-turn. They had quit the London market having sold the LGW slots and were focusing on the regions. Fine. But then they ended up being pressured/paid(?) to keep the NQY-LGW route. And then largely reinstating the old LGW network into LCY. And then added a couple of routes into STN which didn’t last long including a bizarrely timed double-daily to NCL where both flight were off-peak. And they had the Stobart franchise operation in their name at SEN, plus a short-lived DUB route that was operated directly outside the franchise. And Loganair into STN which was also a franchise.

So from a long-standing LGW operation they quickly went to dribs and drabs at multiple airports.

allan1987 12th Jan 2021 17:34

I thought the BHD and EDI to LCY went quite well, also since also with using Stobart Air's E190 on both routes

TartinTon 12th Jan 2021 17:39

AMS was the only route that made any money ex-LCY (and not very much at that)...not conjecture...fact.

CWL757 15th Jan 2021 00:12

11 ex Flybe Q400s going over to be tankers in Canada.
https://fireaviation.com/2021/01/14/...rs-with-q400s/

biddedout 15th Jan 2021 08:35

That will be a really good use for them. The huge amount of extra power will be very comforting for firefighting pilots operating very low level.

SKOJB 15th Jan 2021 10:15

CWL757

Rather appropriate you might say as BE had been fire fighting for several years!

CWL757 15th Jan 2021 12:52

Oooh that's quite a burn.

Sorry ill see myself out 😁

CabinCrewe 15th Jan 2021 12:58

cant believe this thread still going. BE is gone and never to be seen again in any shape or form!

ETOPS 17th Jan 2021 12:36

I would'nt be that sure ;)

Albert Hall 17th Jan 2021 17:29

Exactly. That's what should happen - as the more you hear of the restart plans the more crazy it sounds - but it may well turn out not to be that way.

jmccrew 22nd Jan 2021 13:06

Interesting
 
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a6acfa619.jpeg

allan1987 22nd Jan 2021 13:47

G-CLXC DHC-8-400 has been registered to THYME OPCO

Expressflight 22nd Jan 2021 14:10

…... and the nature of business as stated by Thyme Opco in its Companies House registration is Scheduled Passenger Air Transport.


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