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LTNman 9th May 2020 06:03

The airlines and travel industry are moaning about the UK quarantine, as it will cost them more money, yet it is their industry that spread the virus to the 4 corners of the world.

They come across as not caring particularly as the Wizzair boss has admitted his passengers are traveling to second homes and to stay with friends and family

Dannyboy39 9th May 2020 06:21


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10776962)
The airlines and travel industry are moaning about the UK quarantine, as it will cost them more money, yet it is their industry that spread the virus to the 4 corners of the world.

They come across as not caring particularly as the Wizzair boss has admitted his passengers are traveling to second homes and to stay with friends and family

Do you work in this industry? Because the way you talk about this and your well known views on immigration really do confuse me. The industry is on life support - a move like this, with very little scientific basis (because the virus is already here) may well damage many companies and careers beyond repair.

LTNman 9th May 2020 06:48

So we should just do nothing then so the handful of passengers who want to fly can fly while the rest won’t fly or can’t fly due to other countries restrictions.

Helpful comment.

SWBKCB 9th May 2020 07:23


with very little scientific basis
Maybe, just maybe, the Govt.is beter informed than the average Ppruner? A difficult concept, I know....

jumpseater 9th May 2020 07:42


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 10777019)
Maybe, just maybe, the Govt.is beter informed than the average Ppruner? I difficult concept, I know....

I think you’ve just won the Internet with that one matey! Please don’t put that on Facebook or Twitter, we still need the net to function, a frothnami on top of a pandemic we can do without...

Dannyboy39 9th May 2020 08:02

This measure is so effective that it doesn't apply to (a) the Republic of Ireland or (b) before the end of the calendar month. The UK government is doing such a great job that the country isn't being seen as a pariah state right now by those across Europe due to our "lockdown".

AirportPlanner1 9th May 2020 08:03


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 10777019)
Maybe, just maybe, the Govt.is beter informed than the average Ppruner? A difficult concept, I know....

The Civil Service are better informed certainly, the Government...being nice they think they know better but ignore that advice. There are clusters of posters on here...Luton, Southend...who are blinded by devotion to the PM.

racedo 9th May 2020 08:41


Originally Posted by PAXboy (Post 10776779)
All well and good to ease lockdown and protect the vulnerable BUT untll the UK gets the testing to the higher levels? Nothing.

1) I am a key worker but because I have no symptoms, I cannot get a test to see if I am an asymptomatic carrier.
2) My partner is a key worker in the NHS but, likewise.
3) My partners daughter (aged 30) is a key worker and had the virus badly but just scraped through not having to go to hospital - so she was not tested. Doctors allowed her to return to work. Her mother nursed her at home (we do not live together) and isolated from work but also allowed to return to work.

So that's three of us with no tests and all at work. Not clever.

Kudos from one key worker to another :ok:

Not even tried to be tested.

As for vaccine, come and see me on its 5th anniversary and will think about getting it. I have zero intention of being big Pharma's guinea pig.

racedo 9th May 2020 08:51


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10776962)
The airlines and travel industry are moaning about the UK quarantine, as it will cost them more money, yet it is their industry that spread the virus to the 4 corners of the world.

They come across as not caring particularly as the Wizzair boss has admitted his passengers are traveling to second homes and to stay with friends and family

We should ALWAYS TRUST THE GOVT. They know what is best.

They have fully supported and actioned a very precise plan that ha saved thousands. After all if they had not had a great plan we would be looking at minimum 200,000 people infected after being tested to confirm it and 20,000 dead. They have provided all the equipment that is needed each and every time. Thank God we have such a good Govt that thinks of the people.

After all it is not like they are telling grand parents that they cannot hug their grandkids who live streets away due to social distancing and house arrest.

The lets all isolate everybody for 14 days is among the most stupid things I have heard, the virus in its current form is on a downward spiral, yet lets put a bolt on the open field. The time for action was 3 months ago, instead a lying and incompetent govt did nothing, blamed everybody else and claimed they had it in hand.

NHS hadn't enough equipment is down to the NHS and it's expensive supply chain.

racedo 9th May 2020 08:54


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 10777019)
Maybe, just maybe, the Govt.is beter informed than the average Ppruner? A difficult concept, I know....

So informed that they allowed the leader of said Govt, numerous ministers and advisers to catch the virus and have it's own expert shag the mistress while telling everybody else to follow lockdown. The said expert provided false forecasts the whole way through this.



Dannyboy39 9th May 2020 09:39

I also don’t understand the logic with asking people with no symptoms to self isolate for 14 days, when you only have to isolate for 7 days if you’ve had symptoms?

davidjohnson6 9th May 2020 09:43

14 days allows for an incubation period - ie the period between picking up the virus from somebody else, and becoming ill. If you show symptoms, then incubation has already happened

SWBKCB 9th May 2020 09:52


The said expert provided false forecasts the whole way through this.
And not all the predictions on this thread have occured - tricky thing...


Curious Pax 9th May 2020 10:08

You can blame the press and social media for this - every time someone pops a picture on F@cebook of a Qatar or PIA flight inbound to MAN there’s a barrage of comments demanding to know why everyone on it isn’t being quarantined despite in most cases the country the flight originated in having a much smaller outbreak. The press has been egging them on, and the government takes more notice of the press than hammering the point that the risk from these inbounds is pretty small in the context of the UK’s current state.

inOban 9th May 2020 10:14

Actually it's now getting really bad in Qatar. But transit pax aren't allowed to leave the airport.
worldometers.info/coronovaris.

racedo 9th May 2020 12:59


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 10777163)
And not all the predictions on this thread have occured - tricky thing...

But none of us are purporting to be experts that are being handsomly paid and rewarded for our inputs. Our inputs are our personal opinions and are not getting Govt to go on a disastrous track.

Based on some of the actions of the experts we would probably have as much chance.... well we would screw it up massively but who would know the difference from now ?

Vokes55 9th May 2020 13:24

I could understand it if it was going to be country specific, applicable to countries or regions where the virus is still rife at the time and updated on a weekly basis. But does somebody coming back from Barbados or the Seychelles really need to go into quarantine?

If the government is going to go through with this it needs to provide financial support (grants, not loans) to the airlines and airports that are going to be affected. This isn’t just a supply and demand trough that will ween out the weakest players, it’s a government order preventing these businesses from operating whilst still incurring costs. The industry will collapse.

esscee 9th May 2020 13:37

Sooner terminals get the temperature sensors fitted, then this could/may be relaxed a bit?

LGS6753 9th May 2020 13:47

Some of the scariest words in the English language:
"I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help."

ericlday 9th May 2020 13:49

"I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help Myself.......


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