Originally Posted by West Brit
(Post 10781095)
I am hopeful that air travel will go back to the 70s. Fewer airports fewer aircraft. Expensive flights should be the normal. It is great not seeing vapour trails across the sky. No new runway at LHR destroying countryside and communities. Microsoft Teams has now officially killed off mass business travel. This would be all good for the environment and reverse this and previous generations disrespect for preserving the planet for future generations. This madness of growth and more growth for what?
As for the environment global shipping, the fashion industry and the meat industry all do much more damage aviation |
I’m torn on this.
On the one hand, I would love normality to return and the freedom to go wherever we want but I’m torn by whether it should or can return. Certainly, initially, fear, lower incomes, higher prices and restrictions will make travel difficult and occasional for the next 2-3 years. Beyond that, I hope we as individuals and they as businesses start to be more respectful of the planet and more appreciative of the things we consume. I think we we will see a shift, not a blip, in travel. I think it will come back slowly, differently, but I suspect the days of mass, cheap travel for business and leisure as we know it is probably gone. A new, nicer, greener, more respectful era is probably dawning. Maybe.... |
Originally Posted by West Brit
(Post 10781095)
This madness of growth and more growth for what?
We might end up with a lot of unemployed people.(We are going to, anyway). We can't all be doctors, nurses and carers. |
Originally Posted by West Brit
(Post 10781095)
I am hopeful that air travel will go back to the 70s. Fewer airports fewer aircraft. Expensive flights should be the normal. It is great not seeing vapour trails across the sky. No new runway at LHR destroying countryside and communities. Microsoft Teams has now officially killed off mass business travel. This would be all good for the environment and reverse this and previous generations disrespect for preserving the planet for future generations. This madness of growth and more growth for what?
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Originally Posted by West Brit
(Post 10781095)
I am hopeful that air travel will go back to the 70s. Fewer airports fewer aircraft. Expensive flights should be the normal. It is great not seeing vapour trails across the sky. No new runway at LHR destroying countryside and communities. Microsoft Teams has now officially killed off mass business travel. This would be all good for the environment and reverse this and previous generations disrespect for preserving the planet for future generations. This madness of growth and more growth for what?
Have you any idea how much plastic waste this virus has unleashed on the planet globally through fully disposable single use PPE? The collosal increased amount of dross photos and videos of brain-washed kids painting 'rainbows that don't look like rainbows' that are being uploaded to social media that get stored in energy sucking 'data warehouses' that some estimates put at taking upto 4% of global energy consumption..... All the extra soap and alcohol based substances that are being washed in to the aquatic environment.....etc etc |
I hope that we in Europe and the west adopt a lot of what Asia is already doing as part of normal life - it's not that disruptive:
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Its going to take a while!
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I read halfway through till I realized it was a collection of personal opinions (rather like reading through pprune!)
Then I stopped reading altogether when I saw the phrase 'the new normal' yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnn |
Originally Posted by FFMAN
(Post 10781491)
I read halfway through till I realized it was a collection of personal opinions (rather like reading through pprune!)
Then I stopped reading altogether when I saw the phrase 'the new normal' yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnn |
Its going to take a while 2
Originally Posted by FFMAN
(Post 10781491)
I read halfway through till I realized it was a collection of personal opinions (rather like reading through pprune!)
Then I stopped reading altogether when I saw the phrase 'the new normal' yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnn https://www.iata.org/en/iata-reposit...-next-5-years/ Its (still) going to take a while. FF |
Whatever the airlines do it is still a brave soul who is prepared to risk their life for a few days in the sun and with no covid 19 insurance cover as a bonus for new bookings.
https://i.imgur.com/Uz2M1lV.jpg |
I've been hearing rumours that EZY will operate flights returning to the UK via France so that the 14 day quarantine provisions will not apply. Frankly, I don't believe the rumour. Is anyone in the know about this?
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If Easyjet are seen to be abusing the rules, I imagine the rules will be changed
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
(Post 10782330)
If Easyjet are seen to be abusing the rules, I imagine the rules will be changed
But then again, EZY may well be playing the game here to show Government just how stupid the plans are with exemptions. |
The EU have put the block on the French exemption - apparently if France gets an exemption it must also apply to all other Schengen countries.
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Originally Posted by JSCL
(Post 10782336)
Indeed. Depending on any rules in France, connecting flights via Paris may all of a sudden become quite appealing.
But then again, EZY may well be playing the game here to show Government just how stupid the plans are with exemptions. |
Jet 11. The EU said that the French exemption should not apply to all Schengen countries, only those with a similar or lower coronavirus risk profile. However the UK controls its own borders and can make exemptions if it wishes, and there is nothing the EU can do about it apart from taking the UK to the European Court of Justice for discriminating against a Schengen member. I presume all passengers on flights, trains, ferries originating outside Ireland or France will have to complete something similar to the old landing card from the 1970s.
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Closer to home summer holidays not possible either.
No regular UK-Guernsey flights till September:- https://www.itv.com/news/channel/202...end-of-august/ |
Originally Posted by Playamar2
(Post 10782580)
Jet 11. The EU said that the French exemption should not apply to all Schengen countries, only those with a similar or lower coronavirus risk profile.
However the UK controls its own borders and can make exemptions if it wishes, and there is nothing the EU can do about it apart from taking the UK to the European Court of Justice for discriminating against a Schengen member. Downing Street has denied that visitors coming from France will be exempt from moves to quarantine international visitors coming into the UK. |
If Easyjet jet flew passengers via France to break quarantine laws there would be uproar not only from the public but from parliament as well. It won’t happen particularly as Easyjet might need further financial assistance from a government it was seen to undermine.
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