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DC3 Dave 29th Dec 2020 10:24

The Spanish have a cunning plan. They want to create a data base of all who refuse a Covid jab. This will be made available throughout Europe. Presumably, they would like other nations to do the same, obviously with the intent of preventing those not protected from crossing borders.


LTNman 30th Dec 2020 06:09

Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine approved. Most sensible people will be delighted.

ZFT 30th Dec 2020 06:12

Thailand just confirmed vaccinated travellers are still required to undertake 14 days quarantine at approved facility at travellers own (high) cost

Asturias56 30th Dec 2020 07:46

"obviously with the intent of preventing those not protected from crossing borders."

Very logical - everyone has spent the last 9 months excluding foreigners in case they spread the virus - next year everyone will do the same for refusniks for the same reason

ericlday 30th Dec 2020 07:49

The Canary Islands Government has agreed to extend until 10 January the restrictive measures affecting Tenerife, which involve, among other measures, restricting entry to and exit from the island, a curfew at 10 p.m. and suspending all restaurant activity inside the premises, except for ordering takeaway food.

Dannyboy39 30th Dec 2020 13:05

ZFT

And so it begins. Are Aus and NZ and others in the APAC region going to follow suit?

I can only think that the logic here is that there is still an unknown as to whether vaccinated travellers can still spread the virus around.

HKGBOY 30th Dec 2020 13:27

Well in Hong Kong, it is 21 days in a government appointed hotel (at your expense) Vaccinated or not.
You need a test before and after arrival- plus several during the 3 weeks & if you've been in the UK anytime in the preceding 2 weeks- forget it, you're not coming in.

ZFT 30th Dec 2020 13:44

Dannyboy39

That indeed was the reason stated by the authorities

Dannyboy39 30th Dec 2020 16:03

So when does it end? Never then.

The96er 30th Dec 2020 16:23

One assumes the APAC will now have to forever adopt a policy that make N.Korea seem extremly liberal in comparrison I fail to see how they're going to get out of the corner they've backed themselves into.

inOban 30th Dec 2020 16:49

It will end when Thailand, for example, has vaccinated its own population. or when it becomes clear that vaccinated people don't in fact carry the virus and spread it.

RedDragonFlyer 30th Dec 2020 16:54

I think the likelihood of Britons (or any European) holidaying in Asia this summer is basically zero and next winter is relatively low.

Countries like Thailand, Malaysia and Vietnam will first need to vaccinate a large proportion of their own population and then wait and see how well the vaccine works in terms of stopping the virus spreading and reducing any harmful effects.

When they do open up, it is likely to start with limited and controlled tourism. That means, most likely, tour groups from countries with very low infection rates and strong government controls over the virus.

Dependent on vaccination and virus prevalence rates, Europe is much more likely to open up this summer.

davidjohnson6 30th Dec 2020 17:08

Perhaps worth remembering, that Thailand is a middle income country - it's not as rich as western Europe. There will likely have been a bidding war between countries over who gets early access to the Pfizer / Moderna vaccines. Thailand would not have found it easy to compete with (for example) the USA. Thailand will get access gradually but will have to wait in the queue

racedo 30th Dec 2020 18:07

The96er

What happens when their citizens want to travel and return home.

inOban 30th Dec 2020 22:44

davidjohnson6

Thailand is one of the many countries which will be manufacturing the Oxford vaccine.

Landflap 31st Dec 2020 09:12

inOban : It will take a long time to show that those who have been vaccinated are not spreading or getting. Part of the intimidation is like the Italians who are going to compile a list of those not vaccinated AND share it with other EU countries. Oooooh, be scared, be very scared. Then, I see Ryanair advertising "Jab & Go", or something like that, Enticement into the scare factory too. Good bit though inOban is that once you have had the jab, track & trace will be a walk in the park.

Mr A Tis 4th Jan 2021 20:58

With the new latest lockdown rules from GOV.UK International travel You can only travel internationally – or within the UK – where you first have a legally permitted reason to leave home. In addition, you should consider the public health advice in the country you are visiting.
You should not travel abroad unless it is permitted. This means you must not go on holiday.

LTNman 4th Jan 2021 22:08

Meanwhile back in the real world tomorrow gives us the following for those that think their journeys are legally permitted or have decided to travel regardless of the law.

https://i.imgur.com/IW7BcXl.png

DaveReidUK 5th Jan 2021 06:49

The new lockdown regulations don't come into force until tomorrow (Wednesday 6th January).

LTNman 5th Jan 2021 07:49

The existing regulations and future regulations haven’t changed regarding air travel but you are correct regarding them being bought under the law from tomorrow. We will have to see if it makes any difference to travel patterns.

Interesting interview this morning on the BBC where it was hinted that further foreign travel restrictions were under review in the form of a Covid test could be required for U.K. entry.


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