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Something to keep you busy with Beafer, it must have been sold off from the original RAF bought estate at some time, all the way back to the railway track. The Kerry Quin regime fenced the whole estate off to stop people parking for free and walking to the terminal.
Obviously totally pointless and nothing really to do with this thread. |
Originally Posted by N707ZS
(Post 10635783)
Something to keep you busy with Beafer, it must have been sold off from the original RAF bought estate at some time, all the way back to the railway track. The Kerry Quin regime fenced the whole estate off to stop people parking for free and walking to the terminal.
Obviously totally pointless and nothing really to do with this thread. |
As a final point. Why do you keep digging, what are you trying to prove....you said you were at rest now Peel was gone. Some may now be regretting it.
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Airport news
In the latest edition of Now & Then magazine, there is a Teesside Airport article. It mentions the airport is looking for a new managing director, and lists what they would like in the new candidate. N70777zz might be interested ;)
Now and Then magazine There is also a mention about the airport looking at building a new hotel, petrol station, and an aviation college. Great news just like the local election result :ok: |
Originally Posted by Beafer
(Post 10638888)
In the latest edition of Now & Then magazine, there is a Teesside Airport article. It mentions the airport is looking for a new managing director, and lists what they would like in the new candidate. N70777zz might be interested ;)
Now and Then magazine There is also a mention about the airport looking at building a new hotel, petrol station, and an aviation college. Great news just like the local election result :ok: |
Originally Posted by oldart
(Post 10638908)
However you still have the Labour Councils, building permission etc.
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October CAA stats:
Terminal passengers: 12,967 - up 4% v prior year
Rolling 12 month passengers: 147,976 |
Southside development back on the cards but....
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/t...rport-17430626 Will the local Conservative parish councillor Doris Jones dare to object this time with the airport surrounded by territory of the new Conservative MPs and in the kingdom of Ben. Wonder if Peel fancies developing some land. Finally found evidence of the previous failed attempt, just for the record. In September 1999 Moorfield announced that it had received outline planning consent for the 167,224 sq. m. (1.8 million sq. ft.) first phase of the development opportunity at Teesside International Airport. The project is designed to provide a total of 327,158 sq. m. (3.5 million sq. ft.) of airport related development over 101 hectares (250 acres) of land within the boundary of the airport. Interest from both potential investors and occupiers remains strong but as with all sensitive developments progress will be governed by factors beyond the basic property issues. |
Is the planning restriction still in place which limits the level of non-aviation related development?
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That will be an interesting question.
Does anyone know if there was any connection between Moorfield and Peel they seem to have come from the same area, job for Beafer. |
Could we finally get a freight village? |
Development signed off within a week, now if only they could get some new routes as quick.
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Cobham sale approved.
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Ryanair?
Ryanair...to TIA? Massive cuts at Leeds and others..is this the one hoped for? |
Which others?
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Prestwick, for one.
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Ryanair..?
And Newcastle ..more to follow.. |
Probably more a case of not as many aircraft as they thought they were going to have next summer.
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Southend paid them and they produced the planes.
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Ryanair wouldn't be good for us
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly
(Post 10645642)
And Newcastle ..more to follow.. |
Don't forget Ryanair and Stobart are already working together at Southend.
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Must be due some announcement soon as the mayor is due for re-election in May. He has found the money to buy the place from Peel but other than that only a small charter season to Majorca is new and that hasn't been advertised so will it happen.
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At least he’s high profile...onto Steel now...
probably finding out that’s it’s not as easy as he promised/thought ? plenty of time though before people start asking questions about if the money could have been better spent on the general infrastructure of Teesside? Just seems a lot of money for a few thousand locals to go holiday,when roads,trains and buses might have been a better investment for the region as a whole? |
Latest accounts. £3m admin costs.
Accounts made up to March 2019. Signed off by directors 20th December 2019. Some new directors on the board.
Interesting accounts. Rail halt costs. Staff wages over £3.5 million a year for 81 staff. page 24. :bored: Assets valued at £55m. page 28. Filing history. PDF shown 3rd January 2020. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/c...filing-history |
Just a quick question... Is ATC back to 24h now? I've noticed that the IAS Medical King Airs come and go from your neck of the woods to mine at all times of the night.
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Interesting costs! I know ATC are paid much more than Newcastle ATC even though ,Newcastle handles nearly 5 million more passengers and at least twice? The movements?... Good negotiator there!!
I think the medical flights operate out of hours? No AFS. and someone puts the lights on/off.. |
at least twice? The movements? |
Originally Posted by highwideandugly
(Post 10658718)
Interesting costs! I know ATC are paid much more than Newcastle ATC even though ,Newcastle handles nearly 5 million more passengers and at least twice? The movements?... Good negotiator there!!
I think the medical flights operate out of hours? No AFS. and someone puts the lights on/off.. MME were one of the worst paid units in the country if you had full ratings across the disciplines. |
Controllers were getting their radar licences then going elsewhere as Onion says due to pay; so the controllers pay/benefits was increased somewhat to improve retention
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Seems to have worked as Teesside appear to be ok staffing wise and I believe attracting staff back from Newcastle? Meanwhile ATC up there seems to be in meltdown with new management? Heard up to 9 ATCOs departed in recent weeks..? Divs. Anyone!
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly
(Post 10658718)
I think the medical flights operate out of hours? No AFS. and someone puts the lights on/off..
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Originally Posted by Beafer
(Post 10658228)
Accounts made up to March 2019. Signed off by directors 20th December 2019. Some new directors on the board.
Interesting accounts. Rail halt costs. Staff wages over £3.5 million a year for 81 staff. page 24. :bored: Assets valued at £55m. page 28. Filing history. PDF shown 3rd January 2020. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/c...filing-history But ignoring the one off items and the discontinued operations, we have an airport that had income of £7.1m in 2018/19 and running costs of £9.8m so ended up losing £2.7m (operating profit). |
Originally Posted by highwideandugly
(Post 10658718)
I think the medical flights operate out of hours? No AFS. and someone puts the lights on/off..
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I think the medical flights operate out of hours? No AFS. and someone puts the lights on/off..
This might not be right, but I read somewhere that during the hours of darkness, the medical flights are able to operate the lights remotely, therefore no ATC required. |
IAS were the reason the DMs went 24hrs a couple of years back.
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Should the Teesside taxpayers be worried about the latest financial figures revealed in the Sunday Times?
Lots of bluster from the mayor..but it’s very slow progress attracting new business. Maybe the development of the south side might help the balance sheets..not sure aviation wise what it will bring though? |
The ST story is just what Beefer and in particular Tigertanaka have detailed above, and doubt whether Teesside tax-payers will be worried as the money for the airport came out of the regeneration fund provided by central Govt.
There will have to be more money spent on the southside before there is any possibility of a return |
Mr Houchen said the losses were "proof of delivery" on the pledge he made to scrap Peel's plan for housing. He said: "When I brought our airport back into public ownership, I made a commitment that not a single house would ever be built on our airport for as long as I am Mayor. I said very publicly that I would stop Peel’s plan to build 350 homes right outside the airport terminal on the car park, a decision the vast majority of local people backed. He added: "The previous owners expected to get £5m for the 350 houses. "Once this is removed from the airport’s accounts, the performance of our airport is where we expected it to be at this stage in my 10-year rescue plan that people can view online". The accounting period represented "just six weeks" under the new owners, he added. . |
Originally Posted by highwideandugly
(Post 10660984)
Should the Teesside taxpayers be worried about the latest financial figures revealed in the Sunday Times?
Lots of bluster from the mayor..but it’s very slow progress attracting new business. Maybe the development of the south side might help the balance sheets..not sure aviation wise what it will bring though? |
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