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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 10566761)
KLM's responsibility, surely?
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Originally Posted by oldart
(Post 10567164)
Or the agent who look's after KLM on the ground at MME.
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August CAA stats:
Terminal passengers: 12,284 - up 11% v prior year
Rolling 12 month passengers: 145,461 |
In response to the concerns, a spokeswoman for Highways England said: “We have no plans to change the signs at present - and we have not been approached about doing so.” No plans to change road signs to Teesside Airport despite name change |
The power of Pprune?? :D
A spokeswoman for Highways England said: “Highways England is in discussions with Teesside Airport and the Tees Valley Combined Authority about the current signs which refer to the airport. “Because we would be replacing the current signs before their normal lifetime, we are working with the combined authority to take this work forward.” |
Number Crunching... quiet thread again at the moment so thought I would take another look at the Bold proposals and promises made by the new incumbents ,regarding passenger numbers.After all it was broadly based on these that the mayor managed to get the local councils to part with circa £40 million pounds of tax payers money? 2017. 128,000. Airport low point regarding passenger figures. 2018. 140,000. Competition on Aberdeen routes helped. 2019. 145,000. Projected...Mainly due to the Balkan effect and excellent KLM performance 2020. 150,000 Again projected..Balkan plus new Palma series.Little growth on KLM. Due Aircraft type and slot restraints at Amsterdam.Huge competition at the moment on Aberdeen from Newcastle. 2021. Assuming an extended Palma season and if it does well..maybe an Alicante ? KLM and Eastern little change..gives another projected figure of..say. 155,000 tops? and so to 2022.Owners projected figures are 1 million. I leave you all to do the maths..but a bit like Brexit..there is a little bit of uncertainty I would suggest how that figure will reached? |
and so to 2022.Owners projected figures are 1 million. I leave you all to do the maths..but a bit like Brexit..there is a little bit of uncertainty I would suggest how that figure will reached? |
Ahhh.the Gazette! That makes more sense! Still would need growth year on year of who knows..30% for 8 years? A tall order without at least one major low cost carrier...trouble is they are few and far between now? |
I seem to remember that 'W' patterns worked quite well for MME some time ago. In that respect would it offer a new selection of slots to use rather than a busier airport?
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Air Ambulance
When does the Great North Air Ambulance Helicopter leave was past there new facility at Urlay Nook it looks about ready for them o move into
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December has been quoted in the past
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The Arriva bus service from Darlington might have returned to the airport terminal today instead of stopping along the old entrance road.
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Originally Posted by N707ZS
(Post 10606177)
The Arriva bus service from Darlington might have returned to the airport terminal today instead of stopping along the old entrance road.
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I suspect there is some press going on for the said bus service. An Arriva bus was airside this morning complete with camera crew. |
MME-ABZ
Some slight timing changes for the mid morning and evening flights to Aberdeen from next week - also Thu/Fri just 2 daily flights in each direction. Sunday returns to being split with Humberside, but on the ATR72.
Is Loganair flying from Newcastle having any impact here? Although looking at fares for tomorrow on Eastern from here, still £243 for each flight! Lower fares for the rest of the week. |
Originally Posted by P330
(Post 10608367)
I suspect there is some press going on for the said bus service. An Arriva bus was airside this morning complete with camera crew.
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So Stobart launching a double daily Southend route from Newcastle has got to be a joke right?
Bring back Peel anyone?! |
Originally Posted by David Thompson
(Post 10611767)
Here you go ; https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/ne...gton-hurworth/ .
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Stobart
As mentioned above, should we be worried that as a Stobart run airport, Stobart Air decided to fly from another Stobart owned airport to Newcastle? I believe when Stobart were announced as the partner, the inference was that as they owned Southend Airport too, that could be a route that was possible. I am not saying it would ever have been a successful route but surely it does not really inspire confidence in the airport.
Or were Flybe starting the Newcastle route before Loganair did? |
Just shows how hard it’s going to be for the airport to attract any meaningful routes and services ? Newcastle is an established airport with 5million plus passengers..TIA is ,yet again ,a relaunched airport in an area which needs so much help.Economically on the edge... its probably a no brainier to most airlines..stick to the safe option? Airlines are a business and need to make money! on another note...what is the latest with the Cobham's airport contract? Lots of talk earlier in the year re revised contracts..if they were to leave and take the £2 million plus annual contract (allegedly)with them,what would that do to the viability of the airport? lots |
Plus SEN-NCL is a Flybe/Virgin Connect route operated by Stobart. I am with HWAU the Cobham contract is a linch pin of the airport!
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The movements website has September's passenger figures, looks like a very good month, as per their comments: Amsterdam returned to form with a 10% increase, 15% increase in terminal pax, Jersey finished better than last year and even Aberdeen was ok although still down by 4%.
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On for the first back to back increase in annual passenger figures since 2005/6. Granted it's not a huge achievement, but its progress nonetheless.
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September CAA stats:
Terminal passengers: 14,372 - up 15% v prior year
Rolling 12 month passengers: 147,297 |
Both the morning and evening Amsterdam rotations were operated by an ERJ-190 today.
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Weekend breaks in Amsterdam have always been popular, presume the ERJ-190 was through demand and not just lack of a smaller plane. See if they return Sunday or Monday.
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KLM Teesside to Amsterdam route passenger numbers increase
A shy bairn said: It has not even been 12 months since I bought our airport but we are already making significant progress with our 10-year rescue plan. Today’s announcement that we have some of the best passenger numbers the airport has seen in almost 15 years is proof that the plan is working. |
The improvement in the routes performance began under Peel and there's nothing to suggest it has anything to do with the Mayor's takeover.
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great figures..11k plus......on KLM....not sure of capacity/seats offered but a quick approximation...gives around 78 per flight both ways...100% capacity...so over to you KLM...extra flight? |
Originally Posted by highwideandugly
(Post 10627063)
great figures..11k plus......on KLM....not sure of capacity/seats offered but a quick approximation...gives around 78 per flight both ways...100% capacity...so over to you KLM...extra flight? |
I would suggest more E190s before an extra rotation unfortunately. |
Originally Posted by P330
(Post 10628568)
I would suggest more E190s before an extra rotation unfortunately.
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Interesting stats...so based on that there are other bases ahead of us to upgauge or increase frequency. Of course, we have no yield stats.... |
Originally Posted by P330
(Post 10628929)
Interesting stats...so based on that there are other bases ahead of us to upgauge or increase frequency. Of course, we have no yield stats.... |
Keep in mind that there are no more slots available at AMS. So adding a frequency would require axing one to another destination. So unless MME is a goldmine, it will be E90s instead of additional E75 flights.
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Originally Posted by P330
(Post 10628929)
Interesting stats...so based on that there are other bases ahead of us to upgauge or increase frequency. As per the KLM timetable, one flight per day to HUY is upgauged to an E190 in April, May, June, September and October next year. (Also the frequency on HUY-AMS varies between 19 and 20xWeek throughout the year, with the 3rd Sunday frequency being the one that 'comes and go's'. HUY-AMS is currently 20xWeek, goes down to 19xWeek in January, back to 20xWeek sometime in February, then back down to 19xWeek when the E190 starts, then back up again to 20xWeek in July when the route goes back to all E175 for 2 months) |
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And Mr Houchen sought to allay any worries.The mayor said: “Eddie Stobart who appear to be in financial difficulty, are a completely separate and different company to Stobart Group who are our partners at Teesside Airport. “Stobart Group are doing very well as is our amazing airport, especially with the recent name change and the announcement of the return of the airshow next May.“We’re working closely with Stobart Group on implementing our 10 year turnaround plan for the airport and getting new flights to new destinations. The future of our airport is strong and it is in safe hands.” Teesside Airport update amid concerns over Eddie Stobart financial woes |
Airport hotel lease.
The agent has put a new advert on Rightmove to sell the hotel lease. Breakdown of the hotel earnings is shown.
Who actually owns the building? airport or a separate land owner like Peel? https://www.rightmove.co.uk/commerci...-87335354.html |
It's always been external from the airport so not Peel, the airport have never recognised it as an airport hotel
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