Flywhoosh also had a stab at it in the ATR

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I would blame Flybe for not doing research into the airport before committing to the route. That aside, other aircraft of similar size to the dash 8 have operated in and out of Dundee for years and continue to do so, only Flybe seemed to have an issue with light aircraft. I do lay the Blame at their feet to be honest.

Am surprised no one has mentioned BHX. Route performed well when flown by Loganair for Flybe. Think it would still work given the reduction in frequency and seats on BHX-EDI and ABZ after the Flybe collapse. Maybe Loganair don't want to dilute their ABZ route in this Covid world, demand was very different when BE flew all three but in long term BHX-DND could work very well.

Loganair launches its Dundee - Belfast City route today (18 September 2020). Initially the route will operate 2x weekly with flights on Fridays and Sundays. In Summer 2021, the route will increase to 4x weekly flights with Monday and Thursday rotations added.

Are the two Dornier Do328's still stored here and if so are they still for sale ?

If they are still here, seems like they have been here for a long time now.

They are indeed still at DND and remain for sale as far as I'm aware.

When does the PSO on the DND - London come up for renewal again.....?

Is the DND BHD route not under some sort of PSO or support scheme as well?

October 2023 if option for extension is exercised in October 2021.

Many thanks.

Positive news this morning - the London City service will be extended to Sumburgh from 9th May 2022 on Mondays and Thursdays.

https://www.shetnews.co.uk/2021/09/0...ice-to-london/

Looks like London flights are switching to Heathrow from 6th May.

These tenders seem never ending. If its not broke just let it run and save expense snd paperwork. SG are quick enough to withdraw contracts when they don't like things #Scotrail #Sleeper

yes - its set out in legistlation - over £ x value you have to get (or try and get) three tenders - it's to stop Councillor Jones's mate have a life-long income

Surely there can't be many operators left in the market to run the Dundee to London flights with the size of aircraft required.
Seems to be the same operator doing this PSO every time its newly awarded.

I wonder if that's the real reason that BHD is being canned.

DND-BHD getting hit with cheap fares and a choice of what colour aeroplane you want to fly on from EDI to BFS and BHD. It’s down to two days a week so might as well improve the services starting at LHR and running north via DND which seem to be doing quite well.

Where's the Loganair thread? Anyway they've announced that the summer through flights to Shetland from London via Dundee will operate 3 times a week next summer, up from 2.

Has the announcement been made yet, as to which airline has been selected to operate the PSO flights from Dundee to London.........?????

Isn't it a foregone conclusion that Loganair will continue to operate the PSO flights between Dundee and London 🤔

If not, then I can't see any other airline operating it.

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£6.2m of taxpayers' cash to subsidise Dundee to London flights (thecourier.co.uk)

The only other airline might be Eastern Airways; they currently operate the PSO service on the WIC-ABZ route.

Referral of the proposed subsidy to Loganair Limited by Dundee City Council - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

As they voted for Dundee City Council, they must be happy.

So what is the subsidy per passenger carried then?

From May 2023 to July 2023 to/from Heathrow there have been an average of 2590 pax per month - that's arriving plus departing pax. Assuming numbers continue at this level, and rounding to the nearest pound, that gives a subsidy of £100 per passenger flying one way or £200 for a round trip.
An off-peak train fare from Dundee to London costs £ 96.40. There are typically 2 trains per hour from Dundee to each of Aberdeen and Edinburgh

Not sustainable - well outside of Scotland -I'd have thought

Surely it’s £200 per passenger i.e. per single journey? £6.2m divided by c.31,000 pax a year. I wonder if the privileged 25 or so people on each flight have any idea how much they’re sucking the taxpayer?
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Ah just spotted that the £6.2m is over 2 years, hence £100 per pax. Cheap!

I guess the question is whether the Dundee area gets more than £6.2 million value (inward investment or whatever) by having a direct air link to London. I haven't got a clue as to whether that is the case.

I use LNER from KGX to INV and the seats in standard are so uncomfortable. So I always compare airfares to LNER First Class which are marginally better (with decent food usually) for an 8 hr journey.

Just wondering if the 2 stored Loganair Dornier 328's are still at DND or have they now gone to new owners.

they are still at DND, but as per my post on the LM thread, Jethros is stating deregistered from UK register and onwards to German register. Not sure if they will fly out or will be broken up.

They're going to fly out.

Wonder if they're heading to Deutsche Aircraft at Oberpfaffenhofen...?!

One of the two Dornier 328s in long-term storage at Dundee finally left on Saturday - and flew out under its own steam, which I think most thought we'd never see! Second likely to be a few weeks away from departure, I gather.

D-CDAJ (previously G-BYHG) was the aircraft - as I guessed, they're both heading to Deutsche Aircraft over at Oberpfaffenhofen.