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miked11 29th May 2018 21:36
Originally Posted by 737James (Post 10159980)
Anybody know whats going on with TUI at EMA I thought it was a 737 only base but for the last two days a 757 has been based there and operating some of the flights.

I have not seen any evidence of any of the 737 going sick so may be planned.
I think it may have been swapped around with G-FDZE. The 757 currently operating out of EMA came from BHX to operate yesterdays Dalaman flight, as G-FDZE sat at EMA from returning from Funchal, so maybe went tech after this flight? Then today G-FDZE went over to BHX to operate from there.

737James 29th May 2018 21:50
Miked11- I think it must have been planned for the 757 to go to EMA yesterday as there was no significant delays which would happen if 737 ZE had gone tech as would have had to have call out 757 crew and get aircraft from BHX to EMA

I wonder if bookings for 2018 have been strong from EMA so they will be using a 757 for the summer if so anyone know what routes it’s operating ?

ROC10 30th May 2018 13:48
Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 (Post 10160099)
Cardiff, Luton and Doncaster will all have 3 based aircraft from 2019.
Will Glasgow go back to two based aircraft?

PDXCWL45 30th May 2018 13:58
Originally Posted by ROC10 (Post 10160723)


Will Glasgow go back to two based aircraft?
I have no idea but I'd be surprised if they downsized it if it's a 3 aircraft base.

awwdabaaby 30th May 2018 13:58
Originally Posted by ROC10 (Post 10160723)


Will Glasgow go back to two based aircraft?
yes, think it will be a 757 and 738 base next year

ROC10 30th May 2018 13:59
Does anyone know why today's BY1345 PUY-EDI (G-TAWD) was diverted to BHX?

G-TAWD is now sitting at BHX and G-FDZE has just positioned BHX-EDI.

The aircraft was actually closer to MAN before making a sharp turn and flying south to BHX. G-TAWD only just arrived at EDI from BHX yesterday after swapping with G-TAWH which has been sitting at BHX all day.

awwdabaaby 30th May 2018 13:59
Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 (Post 10160732)
I have no idea but I'd be surprised if they downsized it if it's a 3 aircraft base.
technically the 787 isn't based so only a one aircraft base just now

ROC10 30th May 2018 14:01
Originally Posted by awwdabaaby (Post 10160733)
yes, think it will be a 757 and 738 base next year
Yeah, I was thinking similar.

ROC10 30th May 2018 14:03
Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 (Post 10160732)
I have no idea but I'd be surprised if they downsized it if it's a 3 aircraft base.
It has normally always been 2x752 along with part time 788. This year it is only 1x752 plus 738 w-patterns from ABZ/NCL/EMA most days, along with the part time 788.

OltonPete 30th May 2018 18:15
G-TAWD
 
Originally Posted by ROC10 (Post 10160735)
Does anyone know why today's BY1345 PUY-EDI (G-TAWD) was diverted to BHX?

G-TAWD is now sitting at BHX and G-FDZE has just positioned BHX-EDI.

The aircraft was actually closer to MAN before making a sharp turn and flying south to BHX. G-TAWD only just arrived at EDI from BHX yesterday after swapping with G-TAWH which has been sitting at BHX all day.
Not sure about the reason for this diversion but BHX usually has a spare aircraft, either a 757 or 737 so I suppose it makes sense if there is an issue. Previous divert was 26th May 757 G-CPEV MAN-PMI (fuel transfer issue?) and at the time G-CPEU was the spare although EV eventually continued to Palma.

Whether this will be the case next summer I am not sure as the timetable shows 8 based short-haul up one from summer 2018.

Pete

inOban 30th May 2018 20:17
Just curious. How often do tui rotate a/c for maintenance. EDI has only one frame, which in peak season, from June 11, flies two rotations every day, usually ending well after midnight. How often must it visit a main base?

ROC10 30th May 2018 21:44
Originally Posted by inOban (Post 10161005)
Just curious. How often do tui rotate a/c for maintenance. EDI has only one frame, which in peak season, from June 11, flies two rotations every day, usually ending well after midnight. How often must it visit a main base?
G-TAWH was based at EDI for one month straight, flying every day. Just yesterday it swapped with BHX’s G-TAWD and already this aircraft has returned to BHX via a divert leaving EDI with the much older G-FDZE...

It really does seem to be quite variable with regard to frequency of swapping aircraft. Some bases seem to be constantly swapping whilst others seem to almost never swap. I remember an aircraft was based at DSA for over eight months straight last year...

I was always under the impression that LTN was the mainitenace based and that the aim of swapping was to eventually get the aircraft into LTN. I’m not sure if this is actually the case though.

ROC10 30th May 2018 21:51
Originally Posted by OltonPete (Post 10160939)
Not sure about the reason for this diversion but BHX usually has a spare aircraft, either a 757 or 737 so I suppose it makes sense if there is an issue. Previous divert was 26th May 757 G-CPEV MAN-PMI (fuel transfer issue?) and at the time G-CPEU was the spare although EV eventually continued to Palma.

Whether this will be the case next summer I am not sure as the timetable shows 8 based short-haul up one from summer 2018.

Pete
Yes I have actually noticed this too this year, regarding BHX having a spare aircraft, I always thought that MAN normally had a spare aircraft in the past. Just seemed a bit coincidental that G-TAWD was BHX based until yesterday and is now already back there today, and unfortunate that EDI have ended up with G-FDZE lol.

Just out of curiosity, where do you find the “timetable” that you mention, or do you work with TUI?

OltonPete 30th May 2018 22:52
TUI
 
Originally Posted by ROC10 (Post 10161067)


Yes I have actually noticed this too this year, regarding BHX having a spare aircraft, I always thought that MAN normally had a spare aircraft in the past. Just seemed a bit coincidental that G-TAWD was BHX based until yesterday and is now already back there today, and unfortunate that EDI have ended up with G-FDZE lol.

Just out of curiosity, where do you find the “timetable” that you mention, or do you work with TUI?
No I am not part of the airline business. The timetable is part on the online flight only booking portal - hopefully this link opens but note aircraft types are not shown other than the 787 services TUI

ROC10 30th May 2018 22:59
Originally Posted by OltonPete (Post 10161104)
No I am not part of the airline business. The timetable is part on the online flight only booking portal - hopefully this link opens but note aircraft types are not shown other than the 787 services TUI
Ah yes, I’ve used this before. It never really seems to work (says there are no flights from certain bases etc). I just wondered if there was a clearer timetable which showed all the departures from each base rather than having to go through a faulty booking engine.

Gurnard 31st May 2018 09:21
PORTO SANTO
Does anyone know what is happening this year to the weekly LGW-PXO flight? According to TUI's website it should be operating, but it was not listed this Monday or the previous one. However, Norwegian have operated the route for at least two weeks on Mondays at a time similar to TUI's schedule, though it is not offered on their website.

LAX2000 31st May 2018 10:25
Originally Posted by Gurnard (Post 10161390)
PORTO SANTO
Does anyone know what is happening this year to the weekly LGW-PXO flight? According to TUI's website it should be operating, but it was not listed this Monday or the previous one. However, Norwegian have operated the route for at least two weeks on Mondays at a time similar to TUI's schedule, though it is not offered on their website.
Norweigan flight numbers D89*** from Gatwick are operated on behalf of TUI. I believe only bookable via TUI and it states operated by Norweigian in the booking process.

ROC10 1st Jun 2018 16:00
W-Patterns
 
This may sound like a stilly question but I was wondering how the crewing of W-patterns works? For example, how would ABZ-DLM-GLA-DLM-ABZ be crewed? And would it be any different for shorter flights like ABZ-PMI-GLA-PMI-ABZ?

Cazza_fly 2nd Jun 2018 00:01
Originally Posted by ROC10 (Post 10162557)
This may sound like a stilly question but I was wondering how the crewing of W-patterns works? For example, how would ABZ-DLM-GLA-DLM-ABZ be crewed? And would it be any different for shorter flights like ABZ-PMI-GLA-PMI-ABZ?
The crew will operate ABZ-DLM-GLA and then taxi back to their base at ABZ. Sometimes however they may be required to stay overnight in GLA and operate another flight from GLA the following day or even sent to another UK base. A new crew will then join the aircraft and operate the GLA-DLM-ABZ service. This could either be operated by GLA or ABZ based crew, but they will always be taken to and from their home bases at the end of their working blocks

The same happens on the shorter flights you mentioned.

boeing_eng 3rd Jun 2018 06:53
Just curious. How often do tui rotate a/c for maintenance. EDI has only one frame, which in peak season, from June 11, flies two rotations every day, usually ending well after midnight. How often must it visit a main base

The smaller bases such as EXT, BOH & EDI have very limited engineering coverage. An aircraft will be swapped into a larger base if a technical issue requires it and obviously for routine checks.


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