Planespotters.net only lists the ones they know the MSNs for; it doesn't mean that more won't be joining... for example, Jethro's predicts that there is one coming from Malysian but Planespotters.net cannot show it because they don't know the specific aircraft involved. So neither site is incorrect, they just show information differently. Don't read into it too much. I'd heard there would be more than the 9 joining but who knows.

Pegasus 738 TC-IZG currently on ground at DGX. Is that one that TUI are due?

This is the c/n of the one listed in Jethros so I would say yes.

The one on Jethros is TC-IZE
37740 / 2638

The other is an unknown Pegasus but it’s likely it may be TC-IZG mentioned above.

Rescue flights 09/03/20:

LGW-TRN-LGW (757)
EMA-TRN-EDI (738) (flight normally operates to/from GLA but airport likely closed)
MAN-TRN-MAN (757)

According to FR24, TOM have seven weekly flights to TRN (all on Sundays). Flights to BHX, BRS, and STN will presumably operate tomorrow (if allowed). There is also a second LGW flight (737) and the MAN flight is normally a 763 so extra capacity may be required on that route.

Nothing to/from VRN as of yet.

Anyone know why today’s BY858/9 LGW-NBE-LGW operated LGW-PMI-LGW? It left LGW around 7 hours late and was certainly heading to NBE but diverted to PMI. It is now heading back to LGW without going to NBE. The MAN-NBE flight is now airborne but also looks like it may be heading to PMI (very rough guess based on FR24 heading). The plan seems to be for the inbound NBE-LGW to operate tonight with the NBE-MAN postponed to tomorrow.

I haven’t seen anything on Tunisia banning flights but it looks like this may be the case.

Jet2 have also cancelled flights to Cyprus. TUI had a flight there from MAN today but I’m not sure whether or not there were passengers onboard.

Tunisia closed its boarders. Presumably whilst the aircraft was inflight.

Czechia, Denmark, Slovakia and Tunisia are all closing their borders to non-residents/citizens. Spain is going into emergency decree mode. Italy has effectively shut down international flights. I expect more of the same over the next 2 weeks

Can TUI survive a summer of (almost) zero revenue ?

Yes, Tunisia refused the aircraft entry

TUI and Jet2 are both largely at risk I'd say. Especially with TUI having a cruise business. This was previously reported to be one of their saving graces but is now likely to be a massive burden.

I assume holidays cancelled and refunds will be given?

EDIT: The MAN flight still seems to be heading for Tunisia so perhaps they will try again tomorrow. Although this may just be for repatriation purposes.

It was reported today that TUI group are £2bn in debt. An equal sum is in held in cash reserves, but could be paid out in holiday refunds. The tour operator is using ‘force majeure’ terms to freeze pre-payments and suspend contracts with hotels as customers cancel bookings during the Covid-19 pandemic.

It told the newspaper it is also stopping recruitment and looking at reducing staff hours.

“Since the recent outbreak of the coronavirus and its pace of spread across the world, the global travel industry has experienced significant uncertainty which has led into reduced customer demand and weaker bookings over the last couple of weeks,” said a Tui spokesperson.

“We are continuously monitoring the situation very closely and actively evaluating the implications for the business. Therefore we are in close contact with our hotel partners worldwide, jointly reviewing options for capacity management, to mitigate the impact for both Tui and its partners.”

So far, TUI have cancelled:

• Alicante
• Cyprus
• Malta
• Tunisia
• Italy
• Goa
• Sri Lanka
• Jamaica

some of these are due to compulsory government action, of course.

Stricter procedures on Thailand and Vietnam.

Universal and Disney are also closed in Orlando.

https://www.tui.co.uk/destinations/t...us-information

It looks like TUI have also cancelled all Canaries flights. Nothing official AFAIK but all outbounds just now seem to be ferries. If this is true, most TUI bases will be closed next week with no departures and only some rescue inbounds.

All Spanish airports will probably be locked down soon anyway though.

This is bad beyond belief. Many good people work at the TUI HQ and in the hangar at Luton who must be so worried for their future.

TUi need HM Govt to mandate, no refunds, only deferrals of flights and holidays. Completely unpopular, but might permit the airlines to survive. Handing back balances and deposits, could be terminal?

Updated now, similar for other countries but Spain is most significant, of course.

Holidays to Spain, Canary Islands, Balearics Islands

Following local measures put in place by the Spanish Authorities, including closing some hotel facilities and the local bars, restaurants and beaches we have made the difficult decision to cancel holidays due to travel between 14th and 29th March.

Customers due to travel to the Spain, Canary Islands and Balearics Islands between 15th and 17th March will have their holiday automatically cancelled and refunded. There is no need to call us.

Customers due to travel to Spain, Canary Islands and Balearics Islands between 18th and 28th March we will call you to rearrange your holiday or offer a full-refund.

Customers due to travel after 29th March, please bear with us as we prioritise customers due to travel in the next two weeks. We would like to thank our customers for their understanding.

Like Flybe, TUI will need to fight for its own survival or fall.
Passengers who have paid for their holidays cannot be expected to be held to ransom to keep the airline afloat.
Reality, unfortunately

Remaining destinations (based on process of elimination, please post if incorrect):

• Morocco
• Cape Verde
• Egypt
• Mexico
• Vietnam (Visa required)
• Thailand (more info must be provided via mobile app)
• Mauritius
• Caribbean (other than Jamaica)

All cruises have been cancelled.

But if holidaymakers want to keep to Europe they are stuffed. Also they would need new holiday insurance except new insurance policies taken out now exclude issues linked to the virus.

Portugal, Austria, Turkey?

I'm basing this on the current schedules so Turkey wasn't included.

Isn't Austria on lockdown? There were ferry flights out there today to bring people back but as far as I'm aware all cancelled now, although the ski season is finishing up now anyway.

Madeira is cancelled.

Madira has just announced that everyone who arrives now have to go into 14 days self isolation, hence the cancellation. According to my son who is out there, those already there are exempt. Don't know about the mainland though.

Incredible isn't it? After Monarch and Thomas Cook went, TUI seemed to be impenetrable. And now a virus that doesn't even have a brain is reducing them to their knees...

Dominican Republic and Morocco now cancelled

TUI: ALL Departures (Monday 16 March)

LGW
LIR
AYT (new)
SID
HRG

MAN
BVC
HRG

BHX
RMF
HRG
CUN

BRS
HRG

every airline at the moment!!!

I don’t think TUI are any more “on their knees” than any other airline at the moment.

TUI is a holiday company with an airline and not just an airline. Does that complicate things?

No denying that, but one could argue that given the issues TUI had last year, there are other airlines/tour operators who are sitting on a comfier cash reserve than TUI, compared to the likes of Jet2 or Easy perhaps.

Not the point I was making

Per daily mail

Travel giant Tui suspends vast majority of travel operations until further notice as British Airways axes 75 per cent of its flights and EasyJet announces further cancellations

What point were you making then? In fact I don’t see much point at all to your post.

But you saw fit to reply to it. 🤣

My understanding is that TUI has some borrowings that are due to be rescheduled, and which carry onerous covenants.Such a massive fall in the share price indicates that they are viewed in the market as fragile.

Does one of the covenants make life more difficult if the share price is below (for example) 250 pence ?

State aid from who as this is a German company.