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bcn_boy 2nd Jul 2020 15:53

TUI to Turkey
 
Carrying on from the Cap Verde virus comments, Turkey has a huge number of hidden cases as the Turkish Government has been silencing doctors and the media about the extent of Covid in the country. I hope that the U.K. does not open a bridge to Turkey, the consequences would be dire for those returning back without quarantine. The U.K. needs to set politics aside.

helipixman 2nd Jul 2020 16:17


Originally Posted by bcn_boy (Post 10827357)
Carrying on from the Cap Verde virus comments, Turkey has a huge number of hidden cases as the Turkish Government has been silencing doctors and the media about the extent of Covid in the country. I hope that the U.K. does not open a bridge to Turkey, the consequences would be dire for those returning back without quarantine. The U.K. needs to set politics aside.

Agree they need to set aside politics, but something far greater is taking over Economics ! Some places in the UK.... Leicester for one, now the Dumfries area in Scotland are seeing a slight increase in cases. Lockdown easing all seems to point to getting the economy restarted, maybe too soon, time will tell, hope not. Its such a fine balance Health or economy. Keep tight controls on the UK borders, lets face it thats how it got here in the first place.

valefan16 2nd Jul 2020 17:01


Originally Posted by helipixman (Post 10827381)
Agree they need to set aside politics, but something far greater is taking over Economics ! Some places in the UK.... Leicester for one, now the Dumfries area in Scotland are seeing a slight increase in cases. Lockdown easing all seems to point to getting the economy restarted, maybe too soon, time will tell, hope not. Its such a fine balance Health or economy. Keep tight controls on the UK borders, lets face it thats how it got here in the first place.

Leicester have actually seen a slight reduction as have most of the high rate areas over the past week all be it Leicester is an outlier in they have a larger by far rate.

Will get these regardless of easing lockdown though, even the Germans have had local lockdowns and they are seen as a shining example in Europe.

matjr79 6th Jul 2020 07:00


Originally Posted by Mr @ Spotty M (Post 10818080)
matjr79
Well you wont be on the B757 as they will be all gone by then.

TUI emailed me overnight to advise the outbound is a 757..

Flying Hi 6th Jul 2020 07:12


Originally Posted by bcn_boy (Post 10827357)
Carrying on from the Cap Verde virus comments, Turkey has a huge number of hidden cases as the Turkish Government has been silencing doctors and the media about the extent of Covid in the country. I hope that the U.K. does not open a bridge to Turkey, the consequences would be dire for those returning back without quarantine. The U.K. needs to set politics aside.

Turkey on the Arbridge list from July 10tb. As you say, the consequences - -.

Mr @ Spotty M 6th Jul 2020 10:20

matjr79
I am very surprised because all the B757s were supposed to be phased out prior to the summer 2021 season.
I was offered a job with them back in early 2019, this with a two year contract for that very reason.
Maybe someone on hear that works within TUI engineering could spread some light on this, as they are going to be only ones that know when each aircraft is leaving the fleet.

Yeehaw22 6th Jul 2020 10:26

At present (so very much subject to change) remaining 757 fleet to have left over Winter 21. Small fleet remains for summer 21. Believe 767 going winter 21 aswell.

clipstone1 6th Jul 2020 15:49

then the joys of all of those B737MAX that have been built and parked in TUI colours, to be delivered.....

ericlday 6th Jul 2020 16:04


Originally Posted by clipstone1 (Post 10830489)
then the joys of all of those B737MAX that have been built and parked in TUI colours, to be delivered.....

Here is one delivered and stored at TFS....4th July courtesy Aeropuerto Tenerife Sur

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....57c69a2a91.jpg


yeo valley 7th Jul 2020 04:43

737 max
 

Originally Posted by ericlday (Post 10830509)
Here is one delivered and stored at TFS....4th July courtesy Aeropuerto Tenerife Sur

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....57c69a2a91.jpg


The 737 max stored in TFS did a pax flight from MAN,but due to the max issues could not do the flight back to MAN as all max aircraft had been stopped flying in British air space,and also europe air space as well. It cant be far off 12 months now its been there,some body will confirm this.

sportzbar 7th Jul 2020 05:46


Originally Posted by yeo valley (Post 10830848)
The 737 max stored in TFS did a pax flight from MAN,but due to the max issues could not do the flight back to MAN as all max aircraft had been stopped flying in British air space,and also europe air space as well. It cant be far off 12 months now its been there,some body will confirm this.

I believe the Ethiopian accident happened on 10th March 2019 with the grounding coming a few days later so it's been out there around 15 months...

davidjohnson6 7th Jul 2020 05:48

Is nobody worried about corrosion from the sea air ?

rog747 8th Jul 2020 06:18


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 10830869)
Is nobody worried about corrosion from the sea air ?

You also get the sandy hot winds from the Sahara blowing in - I wonder what state this 737 -8 will be in? It was less than a month old when grounded
No engine covers it seems...16 months on the deck...
Norwegian got their stranded Max out of TFS AFAIK.

TUI UK have 5 more stored at MAN plus at least 3 or 4 completed examples ready at Boeing that were just about to be delivered for S19.
Not sure if any -10 versions have actually been built as yet for TUI.
They were due to take some of those for S20.

ROC10 8th Jul 2020 11:07


Originally Posted by rog747 (Post 10831654)
You also get the sandy hot winds from the Sahara blowing in - I wonder what state this 737 -8 will be in? It was less than a month old when grounded
No engine covers it seems...16 months on the deck...
Norwegian got their stranded Max out of TFS AFAIK.

TUI UK have 5 more stored at MAN plus at least 3 or 4 completed examples ready at Boeing that were just about to be delivered for S19.
Not sure if any -10 versions have actually been built as yet for TUI.
They were due to take some of those for S20.

The MAX at TFS does normally have engine covers on (I’ve seen pics and also saw it in person). Perhaps they’d been removed for engine runs when this pic was taken?

helipixman 9th Jul 2020 15:32

Today I managed to go into a TUI store at Fort Kinnaird, Edinburgh to query why I had not heard anything from TUI regarding a recent cancellation and was still waiting for the refund voucher and 20% reduction incentive. The staff were absolutely brilliant, changed our holiday to 2021 with very little fuss and applied the 20% incentive also. Even changed the flights from Manchester to Glasgow at very little extra cost. Does not seem like TUI will be operating from Edinburgh this year, possibly next year also ?

ROC10 9th Jul 2020 18:38


Originally Posted by helipixman (Post 10833090)
Today I managed to go into a TUI store at Fort Kinnaird, Edinburgh to query why I had not heard anything from TUI regarding a recent cancellation and was still waiting for the refund voucher and 20% reduction incentive. The staff were absolutely brilliant, changed our holiday to 2021 with very little fuss and applied the 20% incentive also. Even changed the flights from Manchester to Glasgow at very little extra cost. Does not seem like TUI will be operating from Edinburgh this year, possibly next year also ?

The EDI base is closed for the rest of S20 (along with ABZ/NWI/BFS). There are due to be two weekly flights to TFS throughout October with the usual winter ops starting in November.

SWBKCB 11th Jul 2020 07:00


Travel operator TUI is set to offer free coronavirus cover with every holiday.

The move is designed to reassure holidaymakers, who will be covered for Covid-19 testing costs, overseas medical help and repatriation flights, if medically required.

The cover will also fund an extended stay and a new return flight home if customers are forced to self-isolate while they're away.....
....The cover – which should be used alongside normal travel insurance – will be included for all customers travelling on any TUI holiday between 11 th July and 31 st December 2020 and applies to all new and existing bookings.

Andrew Flintham, managing director of TUI UK & Ireland said: Many of our customers have been waiting with eager anticipation to hear about whether they could go on holiday this summer, so we’re delighted that our first customers will depart this weekend. We’ve done a lot of work to ensure we can take our customers on relaxing, enjoyable and - most importantly – safe holidays again and it’s really exciting to be able to offer our customers additional peace of mind when booking with us, with our new Covid-19 Cover. It means that they can book with confidence, knowing that extra costs associated with Covid-19 that wouldn’t be covered by regular travel insurance, will be taken care of.

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news...covid-18577628

Rutan16 11th Jul 2020 07:55


Originally Posted by rog747 (Post 10831654)
You also get the sandy hot winds from the Sahara blowing in - I wonder what state this 737 -8 will be in? It was less than a month old when grounded
No engine covers it seems...16 months on the deck...
Norwegian got their stranded Max out of TFS AFAIK.

TUI UK have 5 more stored at MAN plus at least 3 or 4 completed examples ready at Boeing that were just about to be delivered for S19.
Not sure if any -10 versions have actually been built as yet for TUI.
They were due to take some of those for S20.

Norwegian flew them the long way round clear of EASA UK and German airspace with a special dispensation. TUi simply didn’t pursue the CAA for such an exemption as far as I know.

I feel they could have if only to repatriate to Manchester .

There have been numerous max repositioning flights elsewhere cepting the UK and Germany in the main

valefan16 11th Jul 2020 08:18

First flights today, lucky pax to IBZ from MAN got a 787-9!

ROC10 11th Jul 2020 11:30


Originally Posted by valefan16 (Post 10834432)
First flights today, lucky pax to IBZ from MAN got a 787-9!

For some reason, I believe there was an LGW-IBZ yesterday but yes today was certainly supposed to be the first day.

pabely 11th Jul 2020 11:33

Perhaps sending out reps & local TUI support staff?

ROC10 11th Jul 2020 11:58


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10834587)
Perhaps sending out reps & local TUI support staff?

That may be correct

pamann 11th Jul 2020 13:06


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10834587)
Perhaps sending out reps & local TUI support staff?

It was a press flight as it was all over Twitter yesterday.

ROC10 11th Jul 2020 17:11


Originally Posted by pamann (Post 10834646)
It was a press flight as it was all over Twitter yesterday.

How do you define a press flight? Looks like the aircraft that operated it (G-TAWL) flew LGW-IBZ yesterday and didn’t return, still there now according to FR24.

pamann 11th Jul 2020 17:49


Originally Posted by ROC10 (Post 10834759)
How do you define a press flight? Looks like the aircraft that operated it (G-TAWL) flew LGW-IBZ yesterday and didn’t return, still there now according to FR24.

It had press on it. I’m guessing for the relaunch? Have a look on Twitter for yourself. Perhaps they are still there?

double-oscar 11th Jul 2020 18:13

Probably showing the whole TUI experience in the new Covid environment from checking in at the airport to staying at the hotel. A chance to demonstrate the procedures put in place to reduce the possibility of infection and show how guests can still have an enjoyable holiday. Hopefully might see some press coverage in the coming days.

pamann 11th Jul 2020 20:43

Might answer your questions - Ibiza

ROC10 12th Jul 2020 11:27

Croatia Axed
 
This may already be widely known but it’s the first I’ve seen regarding it as I was under the impression they’d be resuming some Croatia routes, but apparently not.

https://simpleflying.com/tui-croatia...edium=facebook

Flying Hi 12th Jul 2020 12:29


Originally Posted by pamann (Post 10834856)

Its a log in site.
Any chance of a copy and paste?

pamann 12th Jul 2020 13:40

TTG Article
 

Originally Posted by Flying Hi (Post 10835277)
Its a log in site.
Any chance of a copy and paste?

JENNIFER MORRIS: 'WE'LL QUICKLY ADJUST TO THESE NECESSARY CHANGES'

10 JUL 2020BY JENNIFER MORRIS

I woke up three minutes before my 3.30am alarm on Friday (10 July), surprised by my restless (half) night’s sleep – I’m usually so used to regular travel. I think it was something about preparing to finally jet off again that set my mind racing.

https://d2osdnqd2igqfx.cloudfront.ne..._0490_Main.jpg
Tui will resume holiday operations on 11 JulyArriving at Gatwick for our Tui press flight to Ibiza, its first since the onset of coronavirus, the usual airport excitement set in – despite the immediately obvious changes.

We were setting off a day before Tui’s first customers starting heading – initially – to Gatwick, Manchester and Birmingham airports for their summer holidays, the first to depart in earnest since the UK government partially lifted its outbound travel restrictions.

Going forward, Tui customers will be channeled to self check-in and bag drop; there are distancing markers at security, large hand sanitiser stations everywhere, and signage reminding passengers to stay apart, wear a mark, and keep their hands clean.

The airport was quiet with the UK’s first quarantine exemptions only just having come into force, but there were a number of keen holidaymakers buzzing around, although only duty free, Starbucks, WHSmith and Boots appeared to be open for their pre-flight needs.

All airport staff were wearing masks, while boarding gates have been upgraded with protective screens and self-scanners for boarding passes.

As usual, two members of Tui cabin crew welcomed me onboard, their friendliness and enthusiasm shining through their PPE. In fact, by the end of the flight, I hardly noticed anyone’s mask.

The captain ran us through the aircraft’s cleaning regime, and in-flight, there was a limited cold food service with fully contactless payment, including Apple Pay.

Any rubbish was swiftly taken away and hand gel given out. Admittedly, there were only a handful of us onboard, so during normal service this could of course take longer.

We were also given sealable bags to dispose of our face masks after the flight.

Before landing, I filled out the new compulsory passenger locator form for arrivals into Spain, which can be done online in advance if you prefer. It only took a few minutes.

I savoured that wall of Ibizan heat when we got off the aircraft, and everyone kept their masks on for the transfer to the terminal where we passed what appeared to be thermal imaging cameras.

Airport staff at passport control and baggage reclaim were all wearing masks, as were Tui’s friendly reps who escorted us to our coach – we spread ourselves out to distance as best possible and were instructed to keep our masks on.

The reps explained the local Covid regulations, which in the Balearics include wearing a mask on public transport and in shops. One told us that from Monday, visitors will have to wear masks at all times, apart from at the beach, by the pool or when playing sports.

Arriving at Tui’s Twiins hotel, we were given a refreshing welcome drink once a member of staff – masked and gloved – attached our resort band.

As I waltzed off to the lift, I caught a glimpse of the sea – despite all the changes, I felt that familiar exciting pang of having arrived somewhere new.

While there are noticeable, and necessary, alterations to the holiday journey we all know, I’m confident those who want to get away will soon adjust to these new, straightforward procedures, just as we always have to other new customs while travelling.

The96er 12th Jul 2020 14:49



The reps explained the local Covid regulations, which in the Balearics include wearing a mask on public transport and in shops. One told us that from Monday, visitors will have to wear masks at all times, apart from at the beach, by the pool or when playing sports.
.
I'm sorry, but having to wear a mask at all times is not my idea of a holiday - I'll think I'll wait to next year. And any company who thinks "we'll just get used to it" are sadly deluding themselves.

ROC10 12th Jul 2020 15:45


Originally Posted by The96er (Post 10835377)
I'm sorry, but having to wear a mask at all times is not my idea of a holiday - I'll think I'll wait to next year. And any company who thinks "we'll just get used to it" are sadly deluding themselves.

I agree, particularly difficult for those of us who wear glasses.

paully 12th Jul 2020 17:25


Originally Posted by The96er (Post 10835377)
I'm sorry, but having to wear a mask at all times is not my idea of a holiday - I'll think I'll wait to next year. And any company who thinks "we'll just get used to it" are sadly deluding themselves.

They are hoping we`ll get used to it but like you I won`t be flying until late next year if then..

davidjohnson6 12th Jul 2020 17:42

TTG is a magazine whose target audience is travel companies, and whose principal advertisers are companies in the travel trade. As with any trade-focussed publication, people writing for TTG will be aware of the interests of their readers and advertisers - namely they are selling dreams to the masses
Bill and Julie from Wolverhampton who will be spending a week on a Mediterranean beach in August are not the target audience for TTG

paully 12th Jul 2020 18:33

I would have thought that at this moment in time Bill and Julie from everywhere would be the precise target audience..

737James 13th Jul 2020 09:24

With Tui's new policy of boarding and disembarking of only 5 rows at a time moving through the cabin along with increased cleaning and disinfection of the cabin will this have any effect on turn around times especially down route when you are on a remote stand at places like PFO,HER,IBZ etc with quite long coach rides from the terminal to stands

ATNotts 13th Jul 2020 09:33


Originally Posted by 737James (Post 10835840)
With Tui's new policy of boarding and disembarking of only 5 rows at a time moving through the cabin along with increased cleaning and disinfection of the cabin will this have any effect on turn around times especially down route when you are on a remote stand at places like PFO,HER,IBZ etc with quite long coach rides from the terminal to stands

I'd have thought that disembarking in the way you describe could actually speed up that process, unless of course passengers insist on getting out of their seats and mess about with stuff in the the overhead lockers before being authorised to do so. Some people appear plain stupid, or believe rules just don't apply to them, so I guess it will be hard for cabin staff to enforce the rules properly.

I returned to UK by Eurotunnel on Saturday, there were 4 vehicles in the carriage. We were all instructed over the PA and also via text that we were to remain in our vehicles at all times, and that there were no toilets in service on the train. Despite that Mr. and Mrs "nouveau riche" in the Range Rover in front got out of their vehicle, then decided to go walkabout; and from a vehicle behind came a father and daughter looking for toilets. On the basis of that straw, and very unscientific survey it would appear that 50% of travellers are either stupid, above the rules, or indeed both.

commit aviation 13th Jul 2020 09:34

Considering Tui as a rule have very generous turn around times compared to the LCC's, I would imagine they will cope.

737James 13th Jul 2020 10:31

I agree TUI do have quite generous turnaround times but even then some of the ground agents struggle and crew have to push them to get the inbound pax onboard. Cyprus could be a bit of a problem as they are going to test every single UK passenger and have said that pax will be held on aircraft until they are ready for them to be brought to the terminal to be tested in groups of no more than 30 so these turnarounds may need to be extended especially at PFO with them all being remote stands

Rwy in Sight 13th Jul 2020 11:48

What happens then with the FTL for crews flying from UK airports to PFO?


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