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HH6702 28th Nov 2018 15:57

Newcastle

There isn't much more routes to do unless they start building up the city breaks routes

Lisbon
Madrid
Seville
Munich etc

all the above could work

LiamNCL 28th Nov 2018 16:27


Originally Posted by HH6702 (Post 10322801)
Newcastle

There isn't much more routes to do unless they start building up the city breaks routes

Lisbon
Madrid
Seville
Munich etc

all the above could work

Kos & Keffalonia that TCX have dropped if they wish

VentureGo 28th Nov 2018 16:57


Originally Posted by HH6702 (Post 10322801)
Newcastle

There isn't much more routes to do unless they start building up the city breaks routes

Lisbon
Madrid
Seville
Munich etc

all the above could work

Currently No Operations at any of the above from Jet2
Newcastle, I believe are about to lose Berlin SXF from EZY. Jet 2 currently operate to SXF from LBA, so maybe a possibility of them taking this over where demand has steadily met capacity.

Agree re. Sunshine routes exited by TCX

HH6702 28th Nov 2018 22:32

We need Jet2 to be able to offer year round services as what happens to the aircraft in the winter months

Greece routes are summer only although still nice to have at ncl

maybe a year round Athens ?


Plane.Silly 29th Nov 2018 09:59


maybe a year round Athens ?
Would be nice, but they don't offer it from any other base. You would have thought they'd try it in LBA/MAN/BHX/STN first before rolling to the smaller bases


Kos & Keffalonia that TCX have dropped if they wish
These are much more likely, given they are already served from several bases already.

chaps1954 29th Nov 2018 10:07

Athens isn`t the market it used to be except for the small islands around the coast of Athens as most of the larger islands now have their own airports
so people don`t need to connect with the ferries

bcn_boy 29th Nov 2018 10:50


Originally Posted by chaps1954 (Post 10323431)
Athens isn`t the market it used to be except for the small islands around the coast of Athens as most of the larger islands now have their own airports
so people don`t need to connect with the ferries

Athens is becoming increasingly popular as a year round weekend destination.

daz211 29th Nov 2018 14:35


Originally Posted by bcn_boy (Post 10323459)

Athens is becoming increasingly popular as a year round weekend destination.

Stansted have very few city break destinations, maybe we will so some growth there but that will mean going up against Ryanair, we all know Ryanair will just price drop.
Maybe Jet2 will look into new routes, there are lots to choose from.

garry8g 1st Dec 2018 09:13

According to Jethro's, the next Jet2 2nd hand B737-800, G-DRTO, is due into Lasham w/c 3rd Dec 18. Ex SunExpress TC-SNY.

Prestonian1 1st Dec 2018 09:28


Originally Posted by sixchannel (Post 10309892)
Interesting to see EXS300T .G-GDFS (presumably a training flight number) currently doing circuits and bumps using BAE Warton's (WRT) runway.

FR24 says it came OUT of Blackpool having been diverted there enroute to WRT from LBA so BLK can clearly still take 737-800s, light anyway. However, the playback does not show this - just continuous low level curcuits.

This seems to be a regular thing - Jet2 aircraft was doing low tight circuits over the Ribble estuary close to BAE Warton on Thurs 29 Nov. Don't know whether/where it was landing in between.

Johnny F@rt Pants 2nd Dec 2018 07:45

Are you sure it was 29th and not 30th? The base training trip on the 29th was cancelled due to strong winds, I operated the first one at WTN on the 30th, there was a second one that came in as I departed. We came in from Birmingham, the second one from Stansted.

sixchannel 2nd Dec 2018 09:02


Originally Posted by Johnny F@rt Pants (Post 10325931)
Are you sure it was 29th and not 30th? The base training trip on the 29th was cancelled due to strong winds, I operated the first one at WTN on the 30th, there was a second one that came in as I departed. We came in from Birmingham, the second one from Stansted.

I'm assuming you mean WRT (Warton) not WTN (Waddington) and it begs the question why use WRT not BLK?
is it runway length perhaps or can Blackpool no longer take commercial jets due to ATC or other restrictions?

chaps1954 2nd Dec 2018 09:21

Has Blackppol still got an ILS?

Fly757X 2nd Dec 2018 09:28


Originally Posted by chaps1954 (Post 10325990)
Has Blackppol still got an ILS?

Yes, CAT1 for RWY28.

mmeteesside 2nd Dec 2018 11:29

They used to use Durham when it was 737-300's... is there something that makes it unsuitable for the -800's ?
Or is it purely a commercial choice?
Just curiously as there's been Easyjet and Flybe quite a bit recently for circuit training

Chesty Morgan 2nd Dec 2018 12:10


Originally Posted by chaps1954 (Post 10325990)
Has Blackppol still got an ILS?

Don’t need an ILS for circuits.

Johnny F@rt Pants 3rd Dec 2018 11:19


I'm assuming you mean WRT (Warton) not WTN (Waddington) and it begs the question why use WRT not BLK?
Thanks for the correction, I did indeed mean Warton and not Waddington.

As to why we don’t use Blackpool, it’s not long enough.

Teeside is still usable for 300’s, but again, it’s not long enough for our requirements for 800’s.

sixchannel 3rd Dec 2018 12:15

Many thanks for the full reply.
Just wondered as I saw a YT vid of the final Jet2 departure from BLK but of course it was a 300. D'oh!
interesting non the less - 300s could get away with 1869 mtrs at BLK and 2200+ at Teeside but the 800s need the 2400+ at WRT.

Mooncrest 3rd Dec 2018 17:49

I suppose this explains why Jet2 never use their own back yard, Leeds Bradford, for training.

sixchannel 3rd Dec 2018 18:08


Originally Posted by Mooncrest (Post 10327057)
I suppose this explains why Jet2 never use their own back yard, Leeds Bradford, for training.

Maybe a fully operational airport isnt the place for circuit training with flights going in and out, getting in the way asthey do.
But LBA and MME are the same length so if MME is too short for 800 circuit training, its a bit s--t or bust when they have to do it for real. Lol.

Mooncrest 3rd Dec 2018 18:49

After the first batch of departures in the morning, there's not much going on until the inbounds appear, especially in the winter. I wouldn't have thought finding training slots is that difficult.

cornishsimon 4th Dec 2018 00:47

U2, LS and BE all fairly regularly use NQY for training


cs

Chesty Morgan 4th Dec 2018 07:43


Originally Posted by Mooncrest (Post 10327097)
After the first batch of departures in the morning, there's not much going on until the inbounds appear, especially in the winter. I wouldn't have thought finding training slots is that difficult.

Possibly not. However, Leeds has got the worst runway in the world. Not somewhere you want to be trying your first landing in an 800.

sixchannel 4th Dec 2018 07:47


Originally Posted by cornishsimon (Post 10327300)
U2, LS and BE all fairly regularly use NQY for training
cs

NQY is as long as the Yellow Brick Road - 2700 plus. Plenty of get out of trouble room and a GA's not going to disturb any folks in a housing estate underneath. ;-)

EGPO 4th Dec 2018 11:32

why
 
Just reading about Circuit training , although now getting busier though mainly Cargo traffic seeing how Ryanair seem to be training at DSA, along with queasy jet , Would it not be a better option.
They handle up to the largest aircraft on the planet .
So anything Jet 2 Flies could be handled with ease.
Granted they'd end up being put on a stack out of the way whilst Wizzair or whomever comes in , but it would be the logical choice.
Whilst it is still relatively ' quiet'.
It has all the latest Navaids and unlike LBA or DTV isn't affected by WX very often .
( Or if it's the Runway length issue what about Huy, isn't that near enough LBA length ?).

Skipness One Foxtrot 4th Dec 2018 12:53

Jet2 are frequent visitors to PIK as well, taking advantage of the relative quiet of the airspace.

Johnny F@rt Pants 4th Dec 2018 15:14


Just reading about Circuit training , although now getting busier though mainly Cargo traffic seeing how Ryanair seem to be training at DSA, along with queasy jet , Would it not be a better option.
Donny is one of our options for circuit training. It’s all down to the weather and availability, Donny seems to be Valdermort Airlines choice of circuit training airfield and I have regularly found that Donny is booked up and therefore unavailable for us.

sixchannel 4th Dec 2018 15:59


Originally Posted by Johnny F@rt Pants (Post 10327743)


Donny is one of our options for circuit training. It’s all down to the weather and availability, Donny seems to be Valdermort Airlines choice of circuit training airfield and I have regularly found that Donny is booked up and therefore unavailable for us.

"Valdermort Airlines" ?! LMAO!! Thank you, JFP, for brightening this dull day.
Maybe "Atmsosphere Interwotsit" will base their circuit training there too.

EGPO 4th Dec 2018 17:11


Originally Posted by Johnny F@rt Pants (Post 10327743)


Donny is one of our options for circuit training. It’s all down to the weather and availability, Donny seems to be Valdermort Airlines choice of circuit training airfield and I have regularly found that Donny is booked up and therefore unavailable for us.

Excuse my ignorance but that Airline wouldn't by any chance have a Harp on its tail run by a guy with a Target on his head ;-)?

Plane.Silly 5th Dec 2018 07:00


Maybe "Atmsosphere Interwotsit" will base their circuit training there too.
Oh, you mean these guys... Atmosphere intercontinental,

I prefer the name "Atmospheric Incontinence". Always a great read to cheer yourself up

sixchannel 5th Dec 2018 07:26


Originally Posted by Plane.Silly (Post 10328244)
Oh, you mean these guys... Atmosphere intercontinental,

I prefer the name "Atmospheric Incontinence". Always a great read to cheer yourself up

Quite so, and barking mad, of course. With your new name for them, one could be forgiven for p---ing yourself laughing?

excrab 5th Dec 2018 18:27


Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan (Post 10327419)

Possibly not. However, Leeds has got the worst runway in the world. Not somewhere you want to be trying your first landing in an 800.

Maybe not the best for base training on anything, but haven't seen it featured on National Geographic yet. It's not that bad....

Johnny F@rt Pants 5th Dec 2018 18:53


Excuse my ignorance but that Airline wouldn't by any chance have a Harp on its tail
You’ve got it:ok:

sixchannel 5th Dec 2018 19:45


Originally Posted by excrab (Post 10328813)
Maybe not the best for base training on anything, but haven't seen it featured on National Geographic yet. It's not that bad....

Not like Lukla then, with a brick wall at the end of the runway!
Brings a whole new meaning to the Training Captain expression - "this will be a full stop."

Chesty Morgan 6th Dec 2018 00:59


Originally Posted by excrab (Post 10328813)
Maybe not the best for base training on anything, but haven't seen it featured on National Geographic yet. It's not that bad....

Oh come on. It’s ****e.

excrab 7th Dec 2018 12:15


Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan (Post 10329027)

Oh come on. It’s ****e.

It's good enough for Captain Boycott :)

garry8g 10th Dec 2018 18:03

According to Jethro's today, Jet2 have acquired a further 5 second hand B737-800's (G-DRTP, G-DRTR, G-DRTS, G-DRTT & G-DRTV), all ex Primera aircraft, due prior to summer 2019.

So 13 second hand and 1 new B737-800 still to join the fleet before summer 2019 now!!

cornishsimon 10th Dec 2018 18:22

So where will they expand or will these replace older frames ?


cs

Plane.Silly 11th Dec 2018 07:05


So where will they expand or will these replace older frames ?
Bit of both. They retired a few of the B733's this year, leaving either 11/ 12 in the fleet, which look to only be in BFS, EMA, LBA and NCL at present. NCL may also be an all B738 base from Feb (can anyone confirm?)
The last New B738 is due in January. This and the other 2nd hand's will help with expansion, mainly in MAN/BHX/STN i'd guess

azz767 11th Dec 2018 09:05


Originally Posted by cornishsimon (Post 10332702)
So where will they expand or will these replace older frames ?


cs

Well also per Jethros the proposed acquisition of G-DRTO (ex TC-SNY) has been cancelled so one of them will be to replace this I imagine.


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