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Matt995 14th Jan 2020 23:36

BHX Summer 2020
 

Originally Posted by bhxac (Post 10662980)
I'm hearing 3 x SmartLynx PLUS the J2 owned a/c.

BTW all the J2 owned a/c will be in 'Holidays' livery

The Summer Birmingham Timetable shows 14 aircraft peak season now, 8 x B737's, 6 x A321's, however one of the A321's doesn't start until August, May to July is showing a B752 instead, rumoured to be a Titan aircraft.

It's been mentioned that 3 A321's will be the Jet2 airframes, 1 will be SmartLynx, as for the other 2 A321's, your guess is as good as mine, will they be Jet2? SmartLynx? Titan? or HiFly? or another airline?


irishlad06 15th Jan 2020 02:12


Originally Posted by Matt995 (Post 10663167)
The Summer Birmingham Timetable shows 14 aircraft peak season now, 8 x B737's, 6 x A321's, however one of the A321's doesn't start until August, May to July is showing a B752 instead, rumoured to be a Titan aircraft.

It's been mentioned that 3 A321's will be the Jet2 airframes, 1 will be SmartLynx, as for the other 2 A321's, your guess is as good as mine, will they be Jet2? SmartLynx? Titan? or HiFly? or another airline?


Looks like in May there will be for BHX the below leased aircraft.

2X Smartlynx A321s
1 x Titan A321 (218seats)
1 x Titan B757 - GPOWH

Titan looks to have 5 x A321s operating for Jet2 this year. 4 in STN plus this one in BHX. Not sure how long it stays for but looking at the end of May and July it is still operating.




Flying Hi 15th Jan 2020 07:35


Originally Posted by irishlad06 (Post 10663237)
Looks like in May there will be for BHX the below leased aircraft.

2X Smartlynx A321s
1 x Titan A321 (218seats)
1 x Titan B757 - GPOWH

Titan looks to have 5 x A321s operating for Jet2 this year. 4 in STN plus this one in BHX. Not sure how long it stays for but looking at the end of May and July it is still operating.

Might see SmartLynx YL-LCV again. Did us proud in 2019 - our flights anyway.😀

BehindBlueEyes 15th Jan 2020 12:50


Originally Posted by Gurnard (Post 10663080)
Yes - 6 more are to enter service, the first currently being painted at BOH. Look out for G-DRTR, 'TM, 'TL, 'TP, 'TY and 'TZ.

Thank you. Ive got a B737 TR relative who is keen to join Jet2 following a recommendation by a friend who is already onboard and loving it. Wed heard that recruitment for Boeing had been put on hold for the time being, so maybe this might be their opportunity to apply.

Flying Wild 15th Jan 2020 14:50


Originally Posted by BehindBlueEyes (Post 10663593)
Thank you. Ive got a B737 TR relative who is keen to join Jet2 following a recommendation by a friend who is already onboard and loving it. Wed heard that recruitment for Boeing had been put on hold for the time being, so maybe this might be their opportunity to apply.

Unlikely. Boeing recruitment is on hold for the time being with the adverts removed from the Jet2Careers website. Focus is understandably on the Airbus introduction. With a lower attrition rate than forecast on the Boeing, the "new" 737-800 aircraft are already accounted for with crewing numbers. The situation can and does change, so your relative should keep an eye out on the website.

fjencl 15th Jan 2020 15:01

When jet2 use the Titan and Smartlynx aircraft, are the cabin crew from jet2 who operate on the aircraft ??? or does the cabin crew come from titan and smartlynx, i know that the
flight deck belong to titan and smartlynx but wasn't sure of the cabin crew situation.

Johnny [email protected] Pants 15th Jan 2020 15:48

fjencl
 
On the long term (summer season) leases the CC are Jet2s own cabin crew trained to fly on those leased aeroplanes, if the lease is short term then it is too big an undertaking to train crews, however Jet2 place some of their own cabin crew onboard as reps to assist with the service and to maintain the brand.

Scottie Dog 15th Jan 2020 15:59


Originally Posted by Johnny [email protected] Pants (Post 10663726)
On the long term (summer season) leases the CC are Jet2s own cabin crew trained to fly on those leased aeroplanes, if the lease is short term then it is too big an undertaking to train crews, however Jet2 place some of their own cabin crew onboard as reps to assist with the service and to maintain the brand.

As somebody who no longer flies very often, but was in the travel industry for all of my working life, can I Just say that Jet2 appear to have got not only their marketing but also the staffing and ambassadorial roles perfected.

irishlad06 17th Jan 2020 11:16

Jet2.com in winter 2020/21 season is adjusting service to Newark, which sees the airline expands service from Manchester and Newcastle. Planned seasonal limited-time service as of 14JAN20 as follows.

Leeds/Bradford Newark Decrease from 4 flights in 4Q19 to 3 flights in 4Q20, 757-200 operating
Manchester Newark Increase from 6 flights in 4Q19 to 14 flights in 4Q20. Operations from Manchester with A330-200 as follows
27NOV20 04DEC20 Day x246
07DEC20 18DEC20 Day x246
22DEC20 28DEC20 Day 12

Newcastle Newark Increase from 4 flights in 4Q19 to 5 flights in 4Q20, A330-200 operating

The airline will continue to operate 1 round-trip flight each for Glasgow Newark and East Midlands Newark with A330-200, in 4Q20.

Previously reported:
Birmingham Newark Service resumption since 4Q17, 3 round-trip flights with A330-200 in 4Q20

Be a good chap 17th Jan 2020 11:35


Originally Posted by irishlad06 (Post 10665293)
Jet2.com in winter 2020/21 season is adjusting service to Newark, which sees the airline expands service from Manchester and Newcastle. Planned seasonal limited-time service as of 14JAN20 as follows.

Leeds/Bradford – Newark Decrease from 4 flights in 4Q19 to 3 flights in 4Q20, 757-200 operating
Manchester – Newark Increase from 6 flights in 4Q19 to 14 flights in 4Q20. Operations from Manchester with A330-200 as follows
27NOV20 – 04DEC20 Day x246
07DEC20 – 18DEC20 Day x246
22DEC20 – 28DEC20 Day 12

Newcastle – Newark Increase from 4 flights in 4Q19 to 5 flights in 4Q20, A330-200 operating

The airline will continue to operate 1 round-trip flight each for Glasgow – Newark and East Midlands – Newark with A330-200, in 4Q20.

Previously reported:
Birmingham – Newark Service resumption since 4Q17, 3 round-trip flights with A330-200 in 4Q20

I wouldn't be surprised if the EWR flights were eventually introduced as a year-round offering, maybe once the new terminal at LBA is complete and can handle the A332 and PAX - just my opinion.

garry8g 17th Jan 2020 14:47

Titan to replace both B757-200's with A321LR's by Autumn 2020.

https://www.flightglobal.com/fleets/...136208.article

I wonder if we will see these in operation for Jet2?


GCELY 20th Jan 2020 08:30


Originally Posted by Scottie Dog (Post 10663731)
As somebody who no longer flies very often, but was in the travel industry for all of my working life, can I Just say that Jet2 appear to have got not only their marketing but also the staffing and ambassadorial roles perfected.

As someone who works for Jet2, we hear things like this a lot and I can tell you its always absolutely lovely to hear that our efforts at work are appreciated by the passengers who travel with us. They put a lot of resources into making sure they have the right staff and encouraging staff to go out of their way to provide excellent customer service.

Flying Hi 20th Jan 2020 09:44

Not intending this to be a Jet2 Love In but just try changing your holiday Destination on a pre-booked Holiday. A nightmare scenario for some companies, no can do for some, but Jet2 did this for us with great aplomb. Superb training has to be the key AND a real, tangible wish to help the Customer out of his self created muddle.

xanda_man 21st Jan 2020 08:03


Originally Posted by Flying Hi (Post 10667239)
Not intending this to be a Jet2 Love In but just try changing your holiday Destination on a pre-booked Holiday. A nightmare scenario for some companies, no can do for some, but Jet2 did this for us with great aplomb. Superb training has to be the key AND a real, tangible wish to help the Customer out of his self created muddle.

Off topic I know this isn't the SLF forum but wish I could share the same sentiment. First booking as SLF with Jet2 given the now huge local presence in BHX this year, having previously been loyal to the winking blue tail for many years. Only for Jet2 to deal us an almost 6 hour flight schedule change putting our inbound arrival time to 2am (on the first day of term following half term). Obviously not wanting to keep the mini Xanda's out of school the following day I call to explore my options of which I am told there are non. All within the T&C's (I know I agreed to them before anyone mentions it) and classed as a minor change and all I'm offered is cancellation at the loss of deposit or change to a different day at 700 more thanks to the ludicrous way 'out of term time' package deals are priced within the UK.

Just makes me wonder why they chose to publish a flight schedule and take bookings seemingly knowing that the slots weren't confirmed. Either way it seems the only winner in my situation is the airline as they either bag 300 for the cancellation or an extra 700 in date changes as these minor changes make significant impacts on SLF booking decisions.

irishlad06 21st Jan 2020 10:13


Originally Posted by xanda_man (Post 10667816)
Off topic I know this isn't the SLF forum but wish I could share the same sentiment. First booking as SLF with Jet2 given the now huge local presence in BHX this year, having previously been loyal to the winking blue tail for many years. Only for Jet2 to deal us an almost 6 hour flight schedule change putting our inbound arrival time to 2am (on the first day of term following half term). Obviously not wanting to keep the mini Xanda's out of school the following day I call to explore my options of which I am told there are non. All within the T&C's (I know I agreed to them before anyone mentions it) and classed as a minor change and all I'm offered is cancellation at the loss of deposit or change to a different day at 700 more thanks to the ludicrous way 'out of term time' package deals are priced within the UK.

Just makes me wonder why they chose to publish a flight schedule and take bookings seemingly knowing that the slots weren't confirmed. Either way it seems the only winner in my situation is the airline as they either bag 300 for the cancellation or an extra 700 in date changes as these minor changes make significant impacts on SLF booking decisions.

the problem is scheduled are released 18months in advance but yet slot handback for Summer 20 schedule doesnt happen until Jan20. Also the aircraft might have been scheduled to only fly two sectors that day initially but because of the TCX issue capacity is being added resulting in all aircraft/most aircraft doing 4 sectors every day therefore resulting in minor schedule changes.

ScouseGeordie 21st Jan 2020 10:31

Irish,

I think what Xanda is saying is that, to us mere passengers, a 6 hour schedule change isn’t a minor change - even when notified weeks or months in advance.

castleford tiger 22nd Jan 2020 15:41

Could i ask how much notice you were given?
Are you talking about the next half term|?
I cannot see a slot not being available being the reason.

tiger

Matt995 22nd Jan 2020 22:37


Originally Posted by xanda_man (Post 10667816)
Off topic I know this isn't the SLF forum but wish I could share the same sentiment. First booking as SLF with Jet2 given the now huge local presence in BHX this year, having previously been loyal to the winking blue tail for many years. Only for Jet2 to deal us an almost 6 hour flight schedule change putting our inbound arrival time to 2am (on the first day of term following half term). Obviously not wanting to keep the mini Xanda's out of school the following day I call to explore my options of which I am told there are non. All within the T&C's (I know I agreed to them before anyone mentions it) and classed as a minor change and all I'm offered is cancellation at the loss of deposit or change to a different day at 700 more thanks to the ludicrous way 'out of term time' package deals are priced within the UK.

Just makes me wonder why they chose to publish a flight schedule and take bookings seemingly knowing that the slots weren't confirmed. Either way it seems the only winner in my situation is the airline as they either bag 300 for the cancellation or an extra 700 in date changes as these minor changes make significant impacts on SLF booking decisions.

Would that now be the Sunday 16:15 departure to Dalaman, arriving back Monday morning at 02:05? - Because Jet 2 are now planning on using more A321s, they have changed a few former B738 flights to the A321, hence having had to change flight times to accomodate the larger A321 in the schedules.

xanda_man 23rd Jan 2020 09:01

Regarding the above, as ScouseG mentioned my main gripe was that the time change does not (as SLF) equate to a minor change, this especially when you factor in the other things I mentioned like pushing the arrival post midnight. It was also customer services who made it quite clear I had no options and nothing could be done apart from pay to change or stick with it and take the little ones out of school for the day. This is for the end of May half term so we have been given plenty of notice. We have now changed to different days at a cost albeit still cheaper than the winking smiley group overall so Jet2 still get my custom.

Apologies I made an assumption it was a slot thing, it looks likely that this was down to the Airbus' coming in to the fleet and moving things around to accommodate but in all honesty I have no idea.


redED 23rd Jan 2020 21:01

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G-DRTL on the apron in MAN today before having a lick of paint.


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