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Originally Posted by Plane.Silly
(Post 10112105)
Is it also where we see the arrival of GIB that was hypothesised ages ago?
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GIB is OK for A320/319 and 757 (and 733/734/737-700) Ops.
738 and 737Max has to operate into GIB under quite restricted payload and performance penalties which = we won't make money on restricted payloads |
Would be a good reason to keep the 733's a bit longer...
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The company needs to think long-term about the 733s. OK for ballpark places like Gibraltar for two or three years but ultimately in need of replacement. The latest 737-700 would seem logical.
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Originally Posted by irishlad06
(Post 10111733)
There are 2 B733 due for retirement in the next 2 weeks // GCELG and GCELK I think.
They won’t expand into anymore UK airports for a while unless a huge opportunity presents itself. They are now going to concentrate on growing their existing bases as evident by the schedule release for each new base so far. There are two more aircraft due for delivery before the end of April that that’s all of the original order of 30 delivered. The top up order of 4 will start delivery in August and finish in January 2019. I doubt we will see any new aircraft ordered after this until we get a replacement for the B757 fleet. The plan is for STN and BHX to grow to the size of the MAN base if the market takes it. They are expanding in self handling with currently this summer LBA/MAN/EMA/BHX/STN, ALC and TFS all fully self handle stations. (Their own staff on all parts of the ground from check in to bag loading and dispatch) If EDI get 7 aircraft next summer and NCL that is the magic number for self handling to work so they might see self handling introduced. Costs more upfront but because you have 100% control over your operation then you get more repeat custom so makes them money in the long run. There will soon be 3 new destinations to be announced for S19. MAN along with other bases will serve all 3 new destinations. In terms of growth they are continuing to acquire 2nd hand B738’s (GDRTC/D/E and F acquired for this summer) so I expect at least another 4 for next year including the leases in aircraft. 6 in total this summer. GPOWN GPOWT YL-LCV GVYGL GPOWH ECIDT And why would they leave an obvious gap in their network like South Wales and the South West any longer than necessary? |
Whose got good examples of 737-700’s that are going to be available? A few of the American airlines maybe?
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Gib
The Spanish seem to be holding out an Olive branch to Gibraltar, at the moment and are openly wanting to share use of the, presently underused,airport facility. The fact that they are openly talking usually means the negotiations are at an advanced stage.
Both sides are desperate to kick start the economy of the Campo area and see the airport as a big part of that. Where political agreement is formed, big business always follows. You never know. I understand that the new 738`s were fitted with the `short field `pack that makes them suitable for such a short runway, but I could be wrong. |
Summer 2019
I think Santorini is a certain for 2019, Mykonos I'm not sure there are enough hotel rooms surplus on the island to justify multiple flights.
Chania is a good option too. After that I can see Bourgas/Varna or Tunisia. Any idea when they plan to announce the new routes for Summer 2019? |
Both G-CELF and G-CELG are due to operate their last service on 23/4/18.
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Originally Posted by P330
(Post 10111959)
What has the reliability of the 733s been of late? |
l1649
where did that info come from?? |
Originally Posted by snowman 1
(Post 10112333)
l1649
where did that info come from?? |
ive heard new routes also but im guessing bulgaria first and another part of turkey or another greek route
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Originally Posted by irishlad06
(Post 10111733)
There are 2 B733 due for retirement in the next 2 weeks // GCELG and GCELK I think.
They won’t expand into anymore UK airports for a while unless a huge opportunity presents itself. They are now going to concentrate on growing their existing bases as evident by the schedule release for each new base so far. There are two more aircraft due for delivery before the end of April that that’s all of the original order of 30 delivered. The top up order of 4 will start delivery in August and finish in January 2019. I doubt we will see any new aircraft ordered after this until we get a replacement for the B757 fleet. The plan is for STN and BHX to grow to the size of the MAN base if the market takes it. They are expanding in self handling with currently this summer LBA/MAN/EMA/BHX/STN, ALC and TFS all fully self handle stations. (Their own staff on all parts of the ground from check in to bag loading and dispatch) If EDI get 7 aircraft next summer and NCL that is the magic number for self handling to work so they might see self handling introduced. Costs more upfront but because you have 100% control over your operation then you get more repeat custom so makes them money in the long run. There will soon be 3 new destinations to be announced for S19. MAN along with other bases will serve all 3 new destinations. In terms of growth they are continuing to acquire 2nd hand B738’s (GDRTC/D/E and F acquired for this summer) so I expect at least another 4 for next year including the leases in aircraft. 6 in total this summer. GPOWN GPOWT YL-LCV GVYGL GPOWH ECIDT |
New Routes 2019?
Why not Nice and Marseilles?
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Originally Posted by ssflyer
(Post 10112649)
Why not Nice and Marseilles?
SSF Lisbon would be useful but I can't see then trying that at Manchester. Certainly Bulgaria seems a good guess and maybe a North African destination. Still plenty to choose from at BHX. Pete |
Maybe Tunisia or Egypt, think I would also like to see VCE from Stansted up against Ryanair On the route VCE is much more convenient than TSF.
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JMK and JTR are pretty much maxed out on many days hence Norwegian basically operate almost a night fight as does TUI and TCK on a couple - BRS for example so
until both airports sort their handling and facilities out I cannot see many more ops there - and some UK airlines do not do night ops into JMK a 738 going into GIB suffers at a 62 tonne MLW into there - my pal is a skipper at DY he has all the figures for both the MAX too - operationally/financially its a no-go for them even with short field performance |
Could Iceland be an outside chance? Ever increasing flights from MAN, just see the MAN thread. EZY seem to be testing the waters from various bases but there should be opportunity for EXS from some of their bases no?
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Loving all the speculation. to offer my 2 pennies....
Marseilles - Great for adding France / city destinations but difficult to justify, due to limited 'beach' offering. Bulgaria (Burgas/Varna). Heard quite a bit of speculation on this, and would be a good shout. Only issue would be how much they can get. at 4hrs from the UK, could they get the revenue they need to keep it alive? (regardless of which bird they use) Tunisia - They dipped their toe in 2011 - didnt work, tried again 2015 - terror attack. Sensing a theme of 4 years here so maybe back on for 2019? It is on the up again. Egypt - Would imagine only the B752's could realistically do it, isn't it right on the limit for B738's. 733's have no chance Iceland - can see the appeal, but with the large amount of incumbants across the UK, and it's preference for transfers to the USA, i'd be surprised. GIB - would be good, but the 738 restriction will hold this back, unless it's solely on B733's (B752 in MAN due to no 733's based) The remaining 3 bases should be on sale in the next couple of weeks so we may find out then... |
Morocco for a citybreak?
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For Egypt, possibly Hurgarda or Marsha Alam? They seem to have continued unabaited despite the Sharm issues?
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Originally Posted by LAX_LHR
(Post 10113345)
For Egypt, possibly Hurgarda or Marsha Alam? They seem to have continued unabaited despite the Sharm issues?
pretty darn well killed off poor old monarch due to the massive downturn since revolution then SSH metrojet crash marsa alarm and hurghada still have UK flights but way lower than before. all it needs is one more major security issue and that will be it (does Thomson still go into Luxor?) FYI 738/73MAX egypt if fine with max payload from most UK airports asateaus 737-700 did Taba Aswan SSH Luxor etc no issues 733 is not restricted that much going down that way either range c2500m |
Originally Posted by rog747
(Post 10113127)
a 738 going into GIB suffers at a 62 tonne MLW into there - my pal is a skipper at DY he has all the figures for both the MAX too - operationally/financially its a no-go for them even with short field performance
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Originally Posted by MKY661
(Post 10113403)
Wonder what might have happened if Monarch were still trading with a 737 MAX fleet then?
you do make a good valid point though - what were MON thinking if the whole fleet was 737MAX eventually - |
Murcia san Javier Airport closes in December with fights swapping over, I wonder if the new Corvera Airport in Murcia will be classed as a new route?
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Ah Corvera, the wonderful airport slap bang in the middle of nowhere and also in a no fly zone. It takes an extra 1/2 hour to/from the UK to detour past LEI to be able to land/takeoff. I can see Jet2 just ditching it altogether and transferring the flights to ALC.
Assuming they do carry on with it, it'll definitely be a 'New route', they'll need to make a song and dance about it to introduce the airport to everyone, and get the route selling |
Spain must be the only country in the world to have three "brand new" airports all closed.
Castillon, Ciudad Real & Corvera. Meanwhile in the UK we can't even build runway without taking half a century. I can't see why anyone would want to fly to Corvera ? The whole point of the airport was to service the proposed mega theme park, which will never see the light of day either. Might as well fly to Alicante. |
Castellan is not closed, Corvera is not yet operational. Most who fly to Murcia go to the la Manga area and southwards. Please do your research please Mr Atis.
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Leeds summer 2019 schedule
https://www.jet2.com/News/49_destina...for_Summer_19/ |
Manchester Summer'19 schedule released.
https://www.jet2.com/News/Summer_19_...ester_Airport/ Had a look also to see what the ALC and PMI bases are doing. At the moment only a requirement for 1x aircraft at ALC (2x based for Summer'18). PMI still looking like 2x aircraft however lots of gaps despite STN the only UK base to still go on sale. Looks as though PMI crew, and possibly ALC if it does stay as 2x aircraft, could be doing most of the STN sectors. |
If thats where the gaps are, it'll likely be operating these STN sectors. They won't want to keep that aircraft idle for longer than necessary.
Had a look at the MAN schedule too. Nice to see LRH making an entrance, following from EGC for S18, those lovely french cities. I fell sorry for the Corresponding LBA sectors on this though, surely MAN will just cannibalise these. Also saw a 2nd A330 is coming into the fleet. Probably early days, but does anyone have an idea where this is coming from. I would have said Air Tanker, but all 4 A330's are spoken for...aren't they? |
I am led to believe HiFly
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Anyone know when LS plan to release there S19 flights from STN?
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Anyone know when LS plan to release there S19 flights from STN? |
EDI S19 July Schedule
Does anyone know if LS plan to reduce the number of aircraft at EDI from late JUL19?. It’s just I notice few routes see a reduction in frequencies from 22JUL19 or 29JUL19 Details below:
Frequency Reductions from Week Commencing 22JUL19 Alicante - Frequency reduces from daily to 6 x weekly Dalaman - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly Girona - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly. Malaga - Frequency reduces from 6 to 5 x weekly Palma - Frequency reduces from daily to 6 x weekly. Rhodes - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly. Tenerife - Frequency reduces from 4 to 3 x weekly. Zante - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly. Frequency Reductions from Week Commencing 29JUL19 Antalya - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly Faro - Frequency reduces from Daily to 6 x weekly Fuerteventura - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly Heraklion - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly Mahon - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly Reus - Frequency reduces from 3 to 2 x weekly. According to current schedule no routes see a increase in frequency from late July. |
Two possibilities come to mind.
The peak holiday season from Edinburgh is the first two weeks in July - school holidays in Scotland start at the end of June, and the first two weeks are the traditional 'Trades' holidays. Or maybe an additional 738 is replacing a 733, although several of the routes you list would use a 738 anyway. |
Good theory InOban.
For a couple of years, over the end july-Beginning Sep period, GLA would swap a 738 with a 733 from EMA, to help with Engligh summer hols. Maybe this year instead of that swap, they've just sent the entire aircraft down? As to where it could go, could be any of the British bases (or all of them, if it operates 'W' Patterns) Just a thought... |
Originally Posted by BAladdy
(Post 10124722)
Does anyone know if LS plan to reduce the number of aircraft at EDI from late JUL19?. It’s just I notice few routes see a reduction in frequencies from 22JUL19 or 29JUL19 Details below:
Frequency Reductions from Week Commencing 22JUL19 Alicante - Frequency reduces from daily to 6 x weekly Dalaman - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly Girona - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly. Malaga - Frequency reduces from 6 to 5 x weekly Palma - Frequency reduces from daily to 6 x weekly. Rhodes - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly. Tenerife - Frequency reduces from 4 to 3 x weekly. Zante - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly. Frequency Reductions from Week Commencing 29JUL19 Antalya - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly Faro - Frequency reduces from Daily to 6 x weekly Fuerteventura - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly Heraklion - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly Mahon - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly Reus - Frequency reduces from 3 to 2 x weekly. According to current schedule no routes see a increase in frequency from late July. Pete |
Max 10s for Jet2...?
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