Bit chippy. You could equally say that if the R number is higher in Scotland because the Scots are not practising social distancing as well as the rest of the UK, why should the rest of the UK suffer extra unnecessary lockdown, not that I would say that, of course.

All the evidence points to it being quite some time before demand returns to pre Covid-19 levels. I would be very surprised to see any transatlantic service return to Edinburgh before Summer 2021 at the earliest. As for Delta resuming on June 2nd, I would take that with a pinch of salt. The likelihood that they would operate a 777 this summer or for the foreseeable future therefore being exceedingly unlikely. Sad as it is, aviation is emerging into a new world and will struggle for some time to come I fear. United resuming on October 24th must also be unlikely, given the winter season yields that could be expected, and don’t forget any social distancing on aircraft will just make the financials a whole lot worse. Very difficult times indeed and the worst it has ever been for airlines.

Really??

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52570936

No meaningful return to operations until July at the earliest for IAG. Depends, I suppose, if they consider LCY/EDI "meaningful".

Porrohman

My points were, at times Scotish politicians said we are all in this together as four nations. Went into lock down together and all but one nation seem to want to ease lockdown together.

My main point is with Scotland possibly being three weeks behind the other three nations, at some point all other nations/countries will be flying around and Scotland NOT. Or will Scotland have to bend the rules and allow flights to operate during their extended lockdown. By not leaving all together we will always be three weeks behind England not just in air travel in all matters of trade. What eveidence have the Scottish Politicians given to extend it ?

In worse news airlineroute are reporting Qatar are to now start Doha 4x weekly from the 1st of July and will increase to 5x weekly from the 1st of August. Currently 2x daily resumes from the 1st of September. Hoping Qatar are 2x daily next summer.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...00gmt-07may20/

I'm struggling to see how lifting lockdown is going to drastically change this situation. Even after lockdown is lifted, strict social distancing is likely to remain in force for the foreseeable future, meaning no one will be "flying around".

Flying will have to re start at some stage so someone will be flying you only have to look at the Aer Lingus flight from Belfast to LHR 95% full, those passengers needed to fly for whatever reason, so people are willing to fly. It's been said that social distancing in airliners is impossible and will not work becuase of the air re-circling system !!! So as soon as airlines see a glimmer the skies will start to be full again. Infact about three weeks ago there were approx 50 aircraft airborne over the UK now its more like 100+ already doubled.

I am not sure that is correct; at least on the majority of airliners. It has been said that social distancing is not necessary because of ECS/Air-Con systems.

HELIPIXMAN - Right now the three daily Aer Lingus flights to Heathrow are the ONLY way into and out of Belfast to and from the rest of the UK by air !

Through Loganair are maintaining the Stansted subsidised link into Ellington .

Worth also noting Air Canada Rouge have removed the B767. This will be the mid 1970s all over again IMHO where services took years to come back, if at all.

I understand that, but it does show that people are willing to travel during lockdown, even with being told all but essential travel ? I looked at the photos of the travellers, could not see any wearing masks.

Lets hope sense prevails regarding all aspect of easing lockdown, after all the hard work the NHS and key workers have done, be a shame to waste it, I live in Scotland and not that bothered about the extended lockdown if it keeps us safe, just wondered what impact it would have between here and the other UK Nations for air travel?

BTW where is Ellington ? or did you mean Eglington

Yeah he meant the Eglinton/City of Derry-London PSO.

Its bookable on the BA website, and CF announced they’ll be starting Ops 1st June.


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Facebook?! Christ it must be true then.... sounds like opinions are being confused with fact. I think a lot of people saw the "767-300 fleet is the only subfleet that will fly for the foreseeable future" comment, and automatically took that to mean full B757 retirement. Whilst it remains a possibility, and it's clear from the displacement bids that the B757/767 fleet is going to be drastically reduced at the very least, whether they retire the B757 completely remains to be seen, no fleet retirements have been publicly confirmed by UA yet AFAIK. All they've indicated are planned base closures.

Yes LAX B787 base is confirmed as closing, but again that doesn't necessarily mean no long haul at all from there...routes could be crewed by other bases.

To keep things at least vaguely on topic, I do wonder if UA will choose to suspend ORD and IAD next year to help bolster the EWR route, regardless of what type is operating...

You can also book a package holiday to Spain with Jet2 from the 17th of June for that matter..

Some of the CF fleet positioned back to LCY today, so it’s looking likely that Ops will indeed start 01/07 as announced.

What do you think the chances are of the Spaniards letting the Brits in by 17th June? According to Nicola today, Scotland is going to stay locked down to almost the end of May (or longer). Seems unlikely the Spanish will welcome Scottish tourists so quickly.

Air Canada Rouge To Retire Boeing 767 - EDI ops?
 

From Airwaysmag (on-line) 07 May 20

'Following Air Canada’s (AC) 1Q loss report, its subsidiary Rouge (RV) will retire a number of Boeing 767 aircraft due to the halt of long-haul international operations.

According to the statement, the operation is part of a 79 Boeing 767 withdraw plan related with principal carrier Air Canada (AC) and its subsidiary RV.

Even though some aircraft will remain in the Boeing 767 fleet, AC CFO, Michael Rousseau said that key European international destinations covered by RV would be now operated by AC’s Airbus A330 and Boeing 777.''

- Wondering if YYZ / EDI (&GLA, MAN & LGW) will be dropped, or at least not re-started for summer 2021? or are they considered key European Intl destinations?

Didn't Air Canada buy Air Transat? TS already have a presence in Glasgow so I guess they could strengthen ops with more frequent A330s and perhaps return to Edinburgh with the A321LR.

I think the proposed AC purchase of Air Transat was blocked on competition grounds.