Originally Posted by jijpc
(Post 10657250)
ATR72 SE-RDA has been leased to cover for G-NSEY which went to Norwich on Sunday evening, presumably for maintenance.
Yes she with us at NWI undergoing heavy maintenance with KLM UK Engineering, nice catch for us up here cheers any chance of the new ATRs appearing at LGW 11th be nice as i,m popping south for a trip |
Pretty good chance - as they comprise most of the fleet, now.
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Blue Islands...Guernsey-Jersey & Southampton
Relating to the Blue Islands thread this week, but I'll post it here as it relates directly to Aurigny... Noted this week, some of the inter-island flights as well as GCI-SOU have been operated by Dornier a/c (G-LGIS). Wonder how pax reacted to this instead of the usual ATR42 or 72? One thing is clear: Aurigny are not selling many seats on the routes if flights can be downgraded to Do.228. Comments on the Blue Islands thread indicate generally good loads on the GCI-SOU route with an ATR72 fairly full. The GR Dornier by contrast has 18 seats. |
Originally Posted by Gurnard
(Post 10660438)
Blue Islands...Guernsey-Jersey & Southampton
Relating to the Blue Islands thread this week, but I'll post it here as it relates directly to Aurigny... Noted this week, some of the inter-island flights as well as GCI-SOU have been operated by Dornier a/c (G-LGIS). Wonder how pax reacted to this instead of the usual ATR42 or 72? One thing is clear: Aurigny are not selling many seats on the routes if flights can be downgraded to Do.228. Comments on the Blue Islands thread indicate generally good loads on the GCI-SOU route with an ATR72 fairly full. The GR Dornier by contrast has 18 seats. The Dorniers are ideal for a higher frequency service , especially inter- island There is nothing mid morning or mid afternoon JER GCI or back |
The airlines would say that is because there is no demand at those times.
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I guess the leased ATR and the use of the Dornier 228 on Guernsey-Jersey is down to a lack of ATR crew due to the Embraer being away on maintenance and the ATR crew having to operate all Gatwick flights.
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Not a bad guess !
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There will also have been at least one ATR crew down in Toulouse picking G-ORAI up, possibly with a few days training whilst they were down there based on what happened when they collected G-OGFC
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And don't forget that when Aurigny made the original license application for the LCY route, both the Dornier and the ATR-42 were included on the application. I still think they messed up that route and that is why it failed : short lead-in marketing period, long-leasing of G-HUET, ( when the continuation of the CityJet F-50 - with crew trained in LCY flights might have been more cost effective ), too much frequency, no onward interline connections, use of the larger ATR 72s etc etc
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But a Trislander has an even quicker turn-around. Which is maybe why Air Alderney are now looking at piston engined Islanders.
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Originally Posted by Nuweiba
(Post 10660838)
But a Trislander has an even quicker turn-around. Which is maybe why Air Alderney are now looking at piston engined Islanders.
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Anyway.... Mr Darby must be opening up the bottles of champage right now. If Flybe cease trading, BI will surely stop, leaving Aurigny basically alone on all the Guernsey routes, ( except for seasonal Loganair routes ), and overnight become Jersey's third airline in terms of pax numbers.
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Originally Posted by Nuweiba
(Post 10661468)
Anyway.... Mr Darby must be opening up the bottles of champage right now. If Flybe cease trading, BI will surely stop, leaving Aurigny basically alone on all the Guernsey routes, ( except for seasonal Loganair routes ), and overnight become Jersey's third airline in terms of pax numbers.
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Originally Posted by Garstag
(Post 10661499)
Why would Blue Islands stop, they operated years before the franchise agreement came in with Flybe. They’d have reopened their open booking portal, obviously not the same exposure but they muddled through before !!
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Originally Posted by Nuweiba
(Post 10661584)
Have they reopened their booking engine ? From their website one is still directed to Flybe. All customer data for future BI flights is on the Flybe server. Will they have access if Flybe suspends operations ? What about receipts taken through the Flybe website ? Surely these would be held by the administrator causing a serious cash flow for BI ?
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Originally Posted by Garstag
(Post 10661499)
Why would Blue Islands stop, they operated years before the franchise agreement came in with Flybe. They’d have reopened their open booking portal, obviously not the same exposure but they muddled through before !!
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Originally Posted by Garstag
(Post 10661499)
Why would Blue Islands stop, they operated years before the franchise agreement came in with Flybe. They’d have reopened their open booking portal, obviously not the same exposure but they muddled through before !!
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Originally Posted by kcockayne
(Post 10661770)
Because they are continuing to lose a lot of money & their owner might well lose interest, or not be there to bail them out. Mind you, if BEE go bust they could take on a few of their CI routes - although this would stretch them operationally & possibly leave them with even greater losses !
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Dornier operated the GCI-JER this morning and ATR42 operated the 08:30 departure to LGW. The SOU is delayed by approx 3 hours.
loads must be pretty dire at the moment to make those changes. |
It is a Tuesday in January.
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