Apologies for the confusion was worried there for a second lol how about Seattle ? going there next month, heard it might even be going double daily next year !!

I'd be very surprised to see Seattle go double daily any time soon, the most likely west coast destination to go double daily would be San Francisco.

Seattle does appear to be doing very well though, it'll probably see the A333 more often now that additional HGW versions are on the way.

RoutesOnline says "Hainan Airlines closes Shenzhen – Dublin reservations from Sep 2019"

"Hainan Airlines in the last few days filed inventory changes, as the airline closed reservation for Shenzhen – Dublin route. Last flight is scheduled on 30AUG19."

Norwegian to end t/a services from Ireland
 

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/201...lantic-routes/

Sad news; the Max issues are of course a key factor and the cost of hiring the Evelop A330 must be fairly high (even though it is more often than not full), but even if the Maxes were still operating as normal, would the service have been sustainable?

Well that really didn't last long.

Is it just Irish bases that have been affected? Maybe I’m wrong but I thought that they gained their Irish AOC by operating flights from Ireland. Does this mean they lose that AOC also?

I think the promise of flights from Ireland (especially Cork) helped the lobbying effort to get their US Foreign Air Carrier Permit in the face of some of the US unions, but I'm not sure that it was linked to the AOC - do Norwegian's Ireland-North America flights even use their Irish AOC?

Wonder now about those claiming MOL was lying when he was indicating things are going to be bad in the airline industry very soon.

I believe the direct DUB-PEK were regularly carrying 80% LF, no idea about yield.

No idea about it returning, I think they either need to commit to a direct service or don't bother.

Being reported that El Al are to start a DUB service.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/el-al-to-open-new-european-routes-including-dublin-460513/

JAS

EL AL to start 3x weekly Tel Aviv from next spring.

CX will suspend Hong Kong over winter.

Airline Routes rare this morning reporting that Norwegian are suspending/cancelling a couple of its routes from DUB

wakey wakey, all of them are for the chop!

"Wakey wakey" indeed, Para.:cool: The long-haul routes are for the chop. I hadn't seen any suggestion of the short-haul routes being chopped, so I think this is new news. Airlineroute says that DUB-CPH is being dropped for the winter and DUB-HEL is being dropped completely.

The whole group is on the precipice once again.

On more positive news I see the AA CEO said he expects Dublin to be their major focus city in Europe for expansion for the foreseeable. I've read DFW is supposed to be going daily, but outside of that realistically what new routes are there other than possibly going year round on CLT and ORD? Their XLRs don't start arriving til 2023 which might halt their retreat in JFK. Maybe they could take over MIA from EI once the JV is finalised due their South American connections. Other than that, I know the EI LAX flights are rammed in summer but realistically they'd need a 787 or 777 to launch that and that's a huge amount of extra capacity to fill. What other hubs of theirs aren't connected? RDU is a bit left field...

PHX is a hub for them and unserved from Dublin. It would need to pick up significant connecting traffic to be viable.

There's always background chatter about La Guardia dropping its perimeter rule. With pre-clearance, Dublin would be the only European hub that could operate flights. The short runway probably precludes it though. I'd note that it's very similar in length to Cork's runway and Norwegian said that was too short for 737Max flights to SWF, so other than the fact the short runway is on the western side of the Atlantic, it's not easy to see what would make it more suitable for Transatlantic flights. Anyway, the last time that background chatter turned into something more serious, it didn't happen, so there's no reason to expect anything imminent.

Qatar A350
 

EI156 DUB-LHR 5th October 2019 EI-LRA
 

ACL S20 report
 

Here is the important bits of the ACL S20 ICR Report:

· Aer Lingus new services to Alghero, Bournemouth, Heraklion, Ibiza, Krakow, Menorca and Poznan
· Aer Lingus Decrease Aberdeen and Milan Malpensa
· Aer Lingus increase Alicante, Leeds Bradford, London Heathrow, Milan Linate, Manchester, Orlando, Miami, Montpellier, Minneapolis, Prague, Seattle, San Francisco and Vienna
· Air Arabia Maroc cancel Agadir
· Air Canada increase Vancouver
· Air Dolomiti new chaters to Milan, Bologna and Verona
· Air France increase Paris with a new daily morning departure
· Arkia Cancel Tel Aviv
· ASL cancel Dalaman
· Ba Cityflyer New Faro and Reus service
· Ba Cityflyer Increase London City too
· Egypt air New Cairo
· EL AL new Tel Aviv
· Etihad decrease Abu Dhabi
· Finnair increase Helsinki
· Flybe Decrease Doncaster and increase Cardiff and Southampton
· Great Dane cancel Aalborg
· Hainan Cancel Shenzhen (not Beijing which they have retained the slots for!)
· Icelandair increase Keflavik
· Juneyao are to add new Shangahai via Helsinki
· Lauda Increase Vienna
· LOT new Warsaw
· Lufthansa Increase Frankfurt
· Ryanair New to Billund, Marseille, Palanga, Podgorica, Toulouse and Verona
· Ryanair decrease Milan Bergamo, Edinburgh, Liverpool and Southend
· Ryanair Increase Dubrovnik, Gothenburg, Luton, Milan Malpensa, Vilnius, Lanzarote, Malaga, Alicante, Bordeaux, Bournemouth, Nantes, Palma, Reus, Riga, Rzeszow and Spilt.
· Ryanair Cancel Stuttgart
· SunExpress increase Izmir
· Transavia increase Paris Orly
· Tui increase Palma and Cancel Malaga, Paphos, Faro and Salzburg
· Vueling increase Barcelona
· Westjet New Toronto service

Source: ACL S20 DUB initial coordination report

Thats all guys.

Are these all extra or are many of these currently onsale?

Hasn't the Juneyao already announce that the Helsinki service will extend to MAN? How many of these applications are aspirational/tactical rather than concrete?

Juneyao Launching Dublin - Shanghai
 

Shame the times are so close to the existing EI service. Neither will allow a full day of work in the Bay Area in either direction :(

Runway usage
 

Just a question from a regular user here who finds many an evening has been spent in a lengthy queue waiting for departure on 28.

Why is 34 also not used for departures at busy times, especially for those flights which turn right downwind on departure anyway. And what would be the reaction if a crew were to request it ?

28/34 are used together from 0600-0730 wind permitting. It is only really possible then due to the massive bias towards departures. I believe creating gaps in the queue for T2 arrivals to slip through is problematic due taxiway layout. For the rest of the day, there isn't as large a ratio of departures vs arrivals so it can't really be done. Remember when 34 is in use, it can't be used as a taxiway.

Glad it's not just me frustrated with this - the winter time isn't as bad, but I remember on one occasion in the summer I was waiting over 30 minutes! Yes the taxiway layout isn't the best, but I'd like to think you'd gain anyway by a little bit of reorganisation.