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Plane mad 134 24th Jan 2019 06:50

Will that be on all flights, Edinburgh included?

GayFriendly 24th Jan 2019 08:37

Shenzhen
 
I agree - on the face this appears to be an odd route.

I have just returned from a trip to that very city: it is extremely prosperous with a strong propensity for outbound travel, is growing and developing very quickly and is the Chinese version of 'Silicon Valley'.

With a new fast train link to HK, you can be in Kowloon in around 20 minutes from Shenzhen. It could then have potential but.....you don't need a Chinese visa to land into HK whereas you do for Shenzhen (even if you are then going straight to HK on the train) and onward flight connections from Shenzhen are fairly limited apart from domestic routes, we all know that you can get virtually anywhere from HK!

Shenzhen Airport is well designed and I found a breeze to get through, even Immigration, perhaps I was lucky!

But it is still an oddball route. However, I can highly recommend Shenzhen for a visit though (as part of a trip to China) - great food, cheap 5 star hotels and a fair bit to see and do in the vicinity. Climate is very nice - it was 22 degrees when I was there before Christmas! Whether all this is enough for this to be a sustainable routes, let's see, but does it have potential as an alternative entry point to China??


mart901 24th Jan 2019 09:33

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...67177?mode=amp

CabinCrewe 24th Jan 2019 15:35

Can any loads be extrapolated from the UK CAA figures for the Hainan PEK route?

840 24th Jan 2019 16:00

You can pull figures from June to September from the CSO

https://www.cso.ie/px/pxeirestat/Sta...01&PLanguage=0

However, it's not clear to me how they treat the passengers on the flights that stop in EDI.

If they are excluded, the figures look quite good. If they aren't, they are very ugly.

ia350 18th Feb 2019 22:12

Anyone hear the figures for January?

PPRuNeUser0176 19th Feb 2019 11:54


Originally Posted by ia350 (Post 10394178)
Anyone hear the figures for January?

2.1m up 5%

https://www.dublinairport.com/latest...dublin-airport

PPRuNeUser0176 4th Mar 2019 15:24

Aer Lingus cancel YUL until 2020 and reduce BDL, MSP, PHL (SNN-JFK) in July due to A321 delivery delays.

PPRuNeUser0176 4th Mar 2019 15:39


Originally Posted by Paul015 (Post 10406687)
Any idea of the frequency reductions?

They are down at least 7 weekly flights. Not looked yet.

snn20 4th Mar 2019 18:41


Originally Posted by Paul015 (Post 10406831)
Ludicrous Shannon is being affected by this a321 issue. Shannon wasn’t due to receive any a321s in the short term, yet again dead legs to Dublin. Can’t see how this is in any way viable yet it continues to happen.

The aircraft is going to be used for MSP. Shannon will never be prioritized unfortunately

PPRuNeUser0176 13th Mar 2019 21:43

Quiet a busy Feb with over 2 million up 9%

Europe 1m up 12%
UK 765k up 4%
N American 175k up 15%
Other Int 62k up 2% - quiet a lot of capacity additions/reductions verses 2018.
Domestic 7k down 16%

https://www.dublinairport.com/latest...dublin-airport

Norwegian
B789 - Operating SWF (PVD pax bused) until 30 April. Current schedules from 1 May have 3 instead of 4 aircraft planned with SWF reduced from 14 to 10 weekly, while YHW delayed until 1 May and reduced from 7 to 4 weekly. All bookings are essentially suspended for the summer unless you think €1200-14000 is good value for a return trip until they know whats happening.

Aer Lingus
A321 delays have resulted in approx 50,000 seats removed for S19.

PPRuNeUser0176 3rd Apr 2019 20:25

Hearing whispers one of the TATL carriers are mulling over a new service and its not Aer Lingus.

2Para 3rd Apr 2019 22:42


Originally Posted by EI-EIDW (Post 10438013)
Hearing whispers one of the TATL carriers are mulling over a new service and its not Aer Lingus.

air canada would be my bet

EI-BUD 4th Apr 2019 12:17

Or maybe a certain other US carrier big at JFK who will make an announcement on April 10th, though I think that will concern a London route more than Dublin...

PPRuNeUser0176 4th Apr 2019 12:28

Its an existing carrier so not JetBlue and the route might be already served which means it might not happen....

840 4th Apr 2019 13:13

I presume Air Canada would only look to route to one of their hubs, but they have service to three of them and Calgary would seem a stretch, considering WestJet already serve it and it's not the best location for connections.

WestJet themselves could perhaps see potential in Edmonton or Winnipeg, but as an airline that has 10% of its fleet as 737Maxs, I'd be surprised to see any immediate expansion.

Then of the three bis US carriers, Delta to Detroit, United to Houston or American to Phoenix could all make some kind of sense.

Blakedean 5th Apr 2019 09:26

Interesting talk of a new TATL route & Air Canada mentioned. There was some sort of private event in the lighthouse cinema on Wednesday night that involved Air Canada.

2Para 5th Apr 2019 22:59

Is Atlanta or SLC served?

VG31 6th Apr 2019 17:50


Originally Posted by 2Para (Post 10440270)
Is Atlanta or SLC served?

DL fly to Atlanta.

EI-BUD 6th Apr 2019 19:35

Cardiff route/Flybe
 
What are the implications for the Dublin/Cardiff route as a result of Flybe's closing of the base?

It seems while they will close the base, they must fly to Cardiff from other bases. Dublin has an early morning flight, and feeds transatlantic connections. If this comes over to Stobart/Aer Lingus Regional, it is unlikely it would have an early flight owing to the lack of slots...


PDXCWL45 6th Apr 2019 20:55


Originally Posted by EI-BUD (Post 10440982)
What are the implications for the Dublin/Cardiff route as a result of Flybe's closing of the base?

It seems while they will close the base, they must fly to Cardiff from other bases. Dublin has an early morning flight, and feeds transatlantic connections. If this comes over to Stobart/Aer Lingus Regional, it is unlikely it would have an early flight owing to the lack of slots...

I can't see them carrying it on as it would require a W pattern, i'd imagine that the airport will either try and get Aer Lingus back with the Regional product or try and get Ryanair to take over the route. When Aer Lingus Regional did operate the route before it was 2 daily in the week at least with the morning arrival at 08.25 and the departure at 08.50 and the night arrival at 20.35 and departure at 21.00 whether Aer Lingus would be interested again? But Dublin did see 108,275 passengers on it in 2018.

owenc 13th Apr 2019 02:50

Dublin not so cheap to fly from anymore. £600:£700 return flights to America this summer?

Used to be £400.

mart901 13th Apr 2019 06:12


Originally Posted by owenc (Post 10446419)
Dublin not so cheap to fly from anymore. £600:£700 return flights to America this summer?

Used to be £400.

That's a very ambiguous statement where are you looking to fly to? Don't forget Norwegian is knocked out of the equation at the moment

ia350 13th Apr 2019 07:31


Originally Posted by owenc (Post 10446419)
Dublin not so cheap to fly from anymore. £600:£700 return flights to America this summer?

Used to be £400.

Any little bit of negative news and you lot are straight in here ,600 to 700 is still decent, I got a pretty good deal in september a multi round trip for 715 ,to the west coast plus a domestic flight.

owenc 13th Apr 2019 15:07

Not for an economy fare.

mart901 13th Apr 2019 15:23

£340 return to Newark in October, I thought pretty decent

chuboy 14th Apr 2019 08:29


Originally Posted by ia350 (Post 10446496)
Any little bit of negative news and you lot are straight in here ,600 to 700 is still decent, I got a pretty good deal in september a multi round trip for 715 ,to the west coast plus a domestic flight.

High fares means yields will be better which is excellent news for the airlines on the route and therefore the airport :confused:

racedo 14th Apr 2019 18:00


Originally Posted by owenc (Post 10446419)
Dublin not so cheap to fly from anymore. £600:£700 return flights to America this summer?

Used to be £400.

Dub to NYC 7th to 21st August £430................... and not really looked that hard either.

2Para 14th Apr 2019 18:03

Got a good deal, BHD-LHR-JFK mid dec for under€370

cuthere 14th Apr 2019 18:12


Got a good deal, BHD-LHR-JFK mid dec for under€370
Aye. Grand.

owenc 14th Apr 2019 18:46


Originally Posted by 2Para (Post 10447447)
Got a good deal, BHD-LHR-JFK mid dec for under€370

BHD to ORD is £900 in July. Scandalous!!

SWBKCB 14th Apr 2019 19:52


Originally Posted by owenc (Post 10447469)

BHD to ORD is £900 in July. Scandalous!!

Get a grip, mate. You'll want paying to fly next...

racedo 14th Apr 2019 20:32


Originally Posted by owenc (Post 10447469)

BHD to ORD is £900 in July. Scandalous!!

Well if you will fly from really really small minor airports, what do you expect ?

2Para 14th Apr 2019 22:25


Originally Posted by racedo (Post 10447549)
Well if you will fly from really really small minor airports, what do you expect ?

it is called a feeder service, friend.

Fairdealfrank 14th Apr 2019 23:59


Originally Posted by owenc (Post 10447469)

BHD to ORD is £900 in July. Scandalous!!

Think the key word here is "JULY"


Dontgothere 15th Apr 2019 09:57

Oh pay him no notice lads, same s**t different year.

racedo 15th Apr 2019 10:33


Originally Posted by 2Para (Post 10447617)
it is called a feeder service, friend.

He can get a bus to Dublin and save money. His choice.

owenc 15th Apr 2019 11:01


Originally Posted by Fairdealfrank (Post 10447664)
Think the key word here is "JULY"

pretty sure £900 for a return TATL fare is beyond the fare.

owenc 15th Apr 2019 11:02


Originally Posted by Dontgothere (Post 10447891)
Oh pay him no notice lads, same s**t different year.

who’s him? You? Lad.

PPRuNeUser0176 17th Apr 2019 20:59

March traffic up 8% to 2.5m

European up 11% to 1.2m
UK up 7% to 861k
Transatlantic up 11% to 285k
M East down 8% to 72k - ET, EY cuts and very poor loads on HU new route.
Domestic up 3% to 8k

Over 6.5m year to date up 8% (460k).

https://www.dublinairport.com/latest...rport-in-march


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