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NorthernCounties 19th Apr 2019 09:23

Just seen the Hainan Airlines aircraft to Shenzhen fly by my office - any idea how it's doing?

PPRuNeUser0176 19th Apr 2019 17:39


Originally Posted by NorthernCounties (Post 10451117)
Just seen the Hainan Airlines aircraft to Shenzhen fly by my office - any idea how it's doing?

Loads are very poor but not a suprise given the sudden announcement. It might pick up over the summer.

EI-BUD 19th Apr 2019 20:08


Originally Posted by EI-EIDW (Post 10451417)


Loads are very poor but not a suprise given the sudden announcement. It might pick up over the summer.

Shenzen is a response to Cathay's Hong Kong increase in frequency. Shenzen is close enough to Hong Kong.

​​​​​​What I understand is that Cathay are doing well from a revenue perspective, with good loads in business too, and Hainan getting soft uptake in business class...
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EI-BUD 19th Apr 2019 20:09

EY had 787-10 in this morning... good sign, though demand probably higher due Easter.

PPRuNeUser0176 20th Apr 2019 10:06


Originally Posted by EI-BUD (Post 10451505)
Shenzen is a response to Cathay's Hong Kong increase in frequency. Shenzen is close enough to Hong Kong.

​​​​​​What I understand is that Cathay are doing well from a revenue perspective, with good loads in business too, and Hainan getting soft uptake in business class...
​​​

Not sure Cathay have increased capacity since launch but its going to happen shortly. Shenzen has had 10-30 on some flights.

Asturias56 20th Apr 2019 17:39

Can anyone explain why? Arrived at Dublin on EI from LHR, parked out near T2. All get off the plane, walk on foot into the (totally empty) terminal, directed left to wards the east end, exit outside again and board a bus which then takes forever to drive right round the airport and drop us off next to the US immigration area - about 300 m from our aircraft.... I mean - why not a bus direct from the plane to the gate???

last time I saw something like that was at Dubai

PPRuNeUser0176 20th Apr 2019 18:20


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 10452067)
Can anyone explain why? Arrived at Dublin on EI from LHR, parked out near T2. All get off the plane, walk on foot into the (totally empty) terminal, directed left to wards the east end, exit outside again and board a bus which then takes forever to drive right round the airport and drop us off next to the US immigration area - about 300 m from our aircraft.... I mean - why not a bus direct from the plane to the gate???

last time I saw something like that was at Dubai

Because its a shuttle bus service for all flights, its much more effective when there are multiple flights arriving or departing as happens most of the time.

Asturias56 21st Apr 2019 08:36

Pretty Third World (or Aberdeen) IMHO - this is the 21st Century - buses should be an emergency measure only. The SLF , as usual, come way down the line cp "financial considerations"

PPRuNeUser0176 21st Apr 2019 09:27


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 10452413)
Pretty Third World (or Aberdeen) IMHO - this is the 21st Century - buses should be an emergency measure only. The SLF , as usual, come way down the line cp "financial considerations"

New pier will replace the facility by Q2 2023.

Una Due Tfc 24th Apr 2019 18:16

I see ET have secured 5th freedom rights on DUB-MAD. Could be worth doing if the price is right vs IB, EI & FR. A modern widebody with complimentary meals etc.

Plane mad 134 25th Apr 2019 07:10

Qatar to increase to 11x weekly from 1st of July next summer, all operated by B787-8.

PPRuNeUser0176 7th May 2019 13:36

LH schedule A340-300 on Wednesdays 3rd July-23rd October on the 12.10 to FRA.

sinbad73 7th May 2019 17:30

I have read elsewhere that PEK-DUB/EDI HU service looks like it is for the chop - last flight from PEK 31st August.

Plane mad 134 9th May 2019 17:04

Reported on Edinburgh thread that Hainan Beijing service is back on sale.

mart901 20th May 2019 11:15

UA EWR
 
See that UA's EWR service is 787-10 from Thursday. Looking forward to flying on it later this year.

840 21st May 2019 09:47

The aircraft may be nice, but you'll still be flying with United...

owenc 21st May 2019 15:03

Why is westjet so expensive?

SWBKCB 21st May 2019 15:32


Originally Posted by owenc (Post 10476445)
Why is westjet so expensive?

Define expensive?

owenc 21st May 2019 16:13

2400 Canadian dollars for a return flights in economy (x2).

I am getting American Airlines premium economy for £1200 return

mart901 21st May 2019 16:27


Originally Posted by 840 (Post 10476253)
The aircraft may be nice, but you'll still be flying with United...

Both will be a new experience, having used Norwegian I can't imagine anything much more basic and that was fine. Reality is nowadays we sit on a low cost airline for 5 hours to say Cyprus with no inflight meal or entertainment, no free hold baggage, no free allocated seats, what's so different when we spend an extra hour or so to the US?

brian_dromey 21st May 2019 16:30

Why are you comparing direct and indirect flights in two currencies, in different classes? There are so many variables as to make the comparison pointless. Are you looking to fly premium Economy and accept a one/two stop route or do you value your time and want a non-stop flight?

Fundamentally AA are neither an Irish or Canadian airline and don't have a non-stop flight between the nations or an alliance partner in either country. They have no ability to command a high fare in this specific circumstance. WS have an advantage of recognition in their home market and their large FFP base.

owenc 21st May 2019 16:43

I’m not? The AA flight is premium economy return to Chicago (x2). The Westjet flight is economy return (x2) to Halifax in a 737.

Significant difference in price, hence the question. I have never seen TATL £1200 for economy.

SWBKCB 21st May 2019 18:47


Significant difference in price
Yes, for two completely different things.... Google "Supply and Demand"

owenc 21st May 2019 21:21

Anyone else think a £1100 return economy fare is justified?

Una Due Tfc 22nd May 2019 18:22


Originally Posted by owenc (Post 10476712)
Anyone else think a £1100 return economy fare is justified?

If they're filling the plane then obviously it is. Fair play to them.

owenc 22nd May 2019 20:28

Seems excessive for a 2500 mile flight. Would say you are being pedantic.

not many will agree.

chuboy 23rd May 2019 03:33


Originally Posted by owenc (Post 10477431)
Seems excessive for a 2500 mile flight. Would say you are being pedantic.

not many will agree.

Airfares are not paid for by the mile. You're not buying shaved ham at the deli.

owenc 23rd May 2019 03:57

Well i’ve yet to see a transatlantic return in economy going for any more than £800.

chuboy 23rd May 2019 05:08


Originally Posted by owenc (Post 10477613)
Well i’ve yet to see a transatlantic return in economy going for any more than £800.

Some people want to do more than fly across the Atlantic, they specifically want to get to Halifax as fast as possible.

tom1975 23rd May 2019 08:58


Originally Posted by owenc (Post 10477431)
Seems excessive for a 2500 mile flight. Would say you are being pedantic.


It's clear that you don't understand yield or revenue management. This is what I do for a living, pricing structures are demand driven, the higher the demand, the higher the price! It's a basic supply and demand, while you might think this the price is excessive, others are happy to pay it to get a direct flight. Fair play to them!!

If you're not happy to pay that price, look for something cheaper, there are plenty of alternatives.

Skipness One Foxtrot 23rd May 2019 09:11


Originally Posted by owenc (Post 10477613)
Well i’ve yet to see a transatlantic return in economy going for any more than £800.

Congratulations on your first transatlantic booking owenc :p

owenc 23rd May 2019 10:17

Thanks for the dig- but no.

PDXCWL45 23rd May 2019 19:03


Originally Posted by owenc (Post 10477613)
Well i’ve yet to see a transatlantic return in economy going for any more than £800.

It depends where you are flying to and from and who you fly wiith. I often fly to Oregon on the west coast of the USA from Cardiff and in general it costs me between £800 and £1100 with KLM or Aer Lingus depending on the time of year and how far i book in advance and Heathrow is no cheaper a lot of the time.

alserire 1st Jun 2019 17:15

New/more e-gates at Dublin.

It'll be great if they're all actually operational at any one time.

PPRuNeUser0176 21st Jun 2019 08:29

April passenger numbers of 2.8 million up 7%
https://www.dublinairport.com/latest...ion-passengers

May passenger numbers almost 3 million up 4%
https://www.dublinairport.com/latest...dublin-airport

Total traffic year to date over 12.3 million up 7% (764,000)



Charlie Roy 21st Jun 2019 15:13


I often fly to Oregon on the west coast of the USA from Cardiff and in general it costs me between £800 and £1100 with KLM or Aer Lingus
I regularly need to fly from Brussels to Atlanta for work. Since we're talking sterling, mostly a return fare is north of £1000.
So instead I book Brussels - Atlanta - Buenos Aires - Atlanta - Brussels: same flights, but with a couple of extra flights thrown in: £500.
My work saves £500, and I get to visit Argentina for free :O

Once I got a fare Brussels - Atlanta - Los Angeles - Sydney - Brisbane - Los Angeles - Atlanta - Brussels for a little over £1000, but it was still cheaper than Brussels - Atlanta - Brussels.

Sorry that's all off topic.
Back on topic: some great traffic figures for Dublin!

Seljuk22 5th Jul 2019 17:12


Dreamliners have also been deployed to London and Rome, and still to come this year, Etihad will introduce these aircraft to markets including Frankfurt, Milan, Dublin, Johannesburg and Lagos.
https://www.etihad.com/en/about-us/e...-asian-routes/

Una Due Tfc 5th Jul 2019 17:47


Originally Posted by Seljuk22 (Post 10510575)

The ETD B789 and B78K have been operating out of DUB for months no?

ia350 4th Aug 2019 13:14

Heard a few people saying EI might cut LAX ? Surly this can't be thru , used this route the last 3 years and again in september ,

PDXCWL45 4th Aug 2019 13:17


Originally Posted by ia350 (Post 10536424)
Heard a few people saying EI might cut LAX ? Surly this can't be thru , used this route the last 3 years and again in september ,

They are supposed to be moving terminals to the International one I believe.


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