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TOM100 8th Oct 2020 19:00

That’s my point - if they have European fleets with EJU there is no ‘Brexit’ requirement to set up European bases - it must just be for commercial/operational reasons. Jet2 do something similar that also helps them recover their programme more quickly if they have tech issues in that part of the world/Canaries, avoiding the EC261 compensation etc if they keep delays under 3 hours.

Tonyq 8th Oct 2020 20:54


Originally Posted by Gurnard (Post 10900701)
.......... why are so many aircraft being re-transferred from the OE- register to G- ?? One would have expected it to be the other way.

So far, all the aircraft which have been earmarked for disposal, as part of the down-sizing, and sent for EOL maintenance are on the UK register. The transfer of a much smaller number of aircraft from OE- to G- appears to be an exercise to balance the fleets out. Nothing more dramatic.

ericlday 8th Oct 2020 21:18


Originally Posted by TOM100 (Post 10900631)
I don’t understand the relevance of Brexit ?

Well, to owners of second property in Spain and the Canaries it is relevant.......allowed only 90 days in any 180 to visit. No popping back and forth over this alloted amount, hence less flights been taken on the airlines.

davidjohnson6 8th Oct 2020 21:43

Once the UK, leaves the EU halfway house at the end of this year, the right of UK citizens to enter the EU becomes weaker. Since the relaxation of total lockdown in July, EU countries have treated the UK as quasi-EU and thus Brits (unlike other non EU countries) have not been told to get lost when trying to enter EU states. Yes, there may be 2 weeks quarantine, but entry is generally possible. See the EU's policy on Serbians entering the EU since July 2020 for details

It is not clear at this stage how welcoming/hostile the EU intends to be to Brits wishing to enter EU states in 2021 while the pandemic continues and before a vaccine is widely available. Airline bookings between the UK and EU may be subdued until there is political clarity

tictack67 8th Oct 2020 22:35


Originally Posted by TOM100 (Post 10900712)
That’s my point - if they have European fleets with EJU there is no ‘Brexit’ requirement to set up European bases - it must just be for commercial/operational reasons. Jet2 do something similar that also helps them recover their programme more quickly if they have tech issues in that part of the world/Canaries, avoiding the EC261 compensation etc if they keep delays under 3 hours.

Well Stansted, Southend and Newcastle closed and Málaga and Faro open.

southside bobby 8th Oct 2020 22:55

Meaning?...

Malaga & Faro are to be EJU crewed & operated.

LTNman 9th Oct 2020 06:27

While Easyjet moved aircraft onto the Austrian register, Swiss aircraft were always registered there even before the Brexit vote as they took over a Swiss carrier. The aircraft are still managed from their Luton HQ and would have been crewed anyway by locals and not UK citizens.

Wizz put aircraft on the UK register that are managed from Hungry that are crewed by Eastern European’s with many living in the UK.

Ryanair have moved Irish aircraft onto the Maltese register.

Regarding restricting Brits traveling to the EU, it won’t happen in any meaningful way if at all. Too many countries want our tourist spending money just like they want tourists from around the world.

AirportPlanner1 9th Oct 2020 08:03


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10900953)
Regarding restricting Brits traveling to the EU, it won’t happen in any meaningful way if at all. Too many countries want our tourist spending money just like they want tourists from around the world.

I wouldn’t be so sure, sounds like a repeat of the popular ‘German car manufacturers’ claim which now push has come to shove has fallen flat. Some areas would be only too pleased to see the back of lower-end mass tourism from the UK and more generally there are other markets which can fill the gap. Take the Balearics as an example of this, go there in the early 90s and it would be Brits, Germans, pockets of Scandinavians and a smattering of Swiss, Austrians, Italians. By the end of the 90s the Russians and other Central/Eastern Europeans had arrived. Now there are plenty of Americans in Ibiza, departure boards busy with flights from all over Europe. Times change but Brexit is sending the UK backwards.

LTNman 9th Oct 2020 08:51

We saw the reaction of Spain and Portugal when UK quarantine rules kicked in. Brits will alway be welcome in Europe even if they are not too keen on us as a people and this is the reason why
https://i.imgur.com/KEB4EIB.jpg

LGS6753 9th Oct 2020 08:59


Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1 (Post 10900985)
I wouldn’t be so sure, sounds like a repeat of the popular ‘German car manufacturers’ claim which now push has come to shove has fallen flat. Some areas would be only too pleased to see the back of lower-end mass tourism from the UK and more generally there are other markets which can fill the gap. Take the Balearics as an example of this, go there in the early 90s and it would be Brits, Germans, pockets of Scandinavians and a smattering of Swiss, Austrians, Italians. By the end of the 90s the Russians and other Central/Eastern Europeans had arrived. Now there are plenty of Americans in Ibiza, departure boards busy with flights from all over Europe. Times change but Brexit is sending the UK backwards.

You misunderstand the economic system in which we live. No company or industry can cope with contraction. They are all geared to growth. Once the Spanish Government (to give an example) realize that their tax take from ex-pat Brits or from British tourists is declining, they will change their attitude. Likewise. once the German car manufacturers see reduced exports to UK, they will put pressure on their government.

Please don't make the mistake of thinking that the EU speaks for all its member states, and electorates. It is a classic self-selecting elite which has insulated itself from the inconveniences of democracy.

DomyDom 9th Oct 2020 10:22


Originally Posted by LGS6753 (Post 10901017)
You misunderstand the economic system in which we live. No company or industry can cope with contraction. They are all geared to growth. Once the Spanish Government (to give an example) realize that their tax take from ex-pat Brits or from British tourists is declining, they will change their attitude. Likewise. once the German car manufacturers see reduced exports to UK, they will put pressure on their government.

Please don't make the mistake of thinking that the EU speaks for all its member states, and electorates. It is a classic self-selecting elite which has insulated itself from the inconveniences of democracy.

German car manufacturers and other businesses based in the EU have had 4 years to put pressure their governments. The reason they haven't and won't is that they know it's in their interest to protect the EU single market whatever the UK wants to do, and they will keep selling cars. Going back to tourism of course the EU countries value UK tourism and Brits will continue to travel and spend money there regardless of Brexit.

I suspect the UK will shortly do a deal with the EU anyway with the UK signing up to EU rules on a host of things inc. trade, security, social security (I.e. health care), etc. Don't forget BoJo is PM and has his majority now so he has no need for hard Brexiters after transition. In my view all the 'breaking international law' stuff is just a smokescreen to placate Brexiters and won't happen. In the context of the Covid crisis I also suspect it doesn't have the political priority for the UK govt it once had.

CCFAIRPORT 9th Oct 2020 11:48

Venice base will be closed until (at least) March 2021 !

MANFAN 24th Oct 2020 14:03

What is going on with EZY flights not showing in the app or on the website?
We have booked MAN-AGP (Malaga) on 21st December, both app and website showing as no flights available on that date, yet not had any confirmation from EZY that the flight has been cancelled...does this mean the flight is actually full (doubtful) or there is a technical problem...or should I expect an e mail confirming the dreaded cancellation? :(

Alsacienne 24th Oct 2020 14:33

Don't think they inked in their schedules - and may not do so for some time. Have you sent an inquiry to customer services for the official reason?

MANFAN 24th Oct 2020 15:10


Originally Posted by Alsacienne (Post 10910871)
Don't think they inked in their schedules - and may not do so for some time. Have you sent an inquiry to customer services for the official reason?

How embarrassing...just been informed by my better half that the flight is actually booked for 20th...🤭
So looks good for now...

Alsacienne 24th Oct 2020 15:22


How embarrassing...just been informed by my better half that the flight is actually booked for 20th
These days life's too short for this sort of embarrassment .... just grin ruefully, and look forward to a great time! All the best x

LGS6753 27th Oct 2020 12:12

Another sale and leaseback transaction to strengthen the balance sheet:

https://www.travelmole.com/news_feat...ews_id=2044831

SKOJB 27th Oct 2020 14:35


Originally Posted by LGS6753 (Post 10912708)
Another sale and leaseback transaction to strengthen the balance sheet:

https://www.travelmole.com/news_feat...ews_id=2044831

certainly the way to go during these tough times and can see more deals being done to remove asset liability and improve liquidity!

BHX5DME 29th Oct 2020 00:30

Easyjet departures from UK Airports - Wed 28 Oct

Gatwick = 27

Belfast = 15

Luton = 14

Bristol = 9

Edinburgh = 6

Glasgow = 3

Newcastle = 3

Manchester = 3

Stansted = 2

Birmingham = 2

Liverpool = 1

Inverness = 1

All names taken 30th Oct 2020 17:41

Wow - how the mighty fall!
It's even worse than it looks too as there will be a lot of double counting due to a lot of those being domestic pairings; as in the case of both BHX flights to BFS and EDI - knock one each off both those airports' list. Ditto a lot of the Scottish and Belfast flights will be going to LGW and LTN. Liverpool's 1 flight was probably going to BFS too.
Wonder how many (sorry ...how few) international flights there are in that bunch and where to?
Frankly though, it's difficult to think of a singe reason to fly atm. What's the point of going anywhere, when most places are vitually police states with freedom a thing of the past? No joy in any of what's on offer so best to stay at home.


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