BTW Would you agree OE- is an erstwhile "flag of convenience" registry anyway. |
While registration is a big issue, ownership has the potential to be an even bigger issue. Both Easyjet and IAG will reconfigure their ownership structure to become majority EU owned. In the case of EasyJet, this is just changing a declaration. In the case of IAG they will either force UK shareholders to sell their shares or offer additional shares to EU shareholders. Both have significant financial implications. The only problem is that currently the law in the UK will mandate a majority UK ownership for domestic flights, as the 'Great Repeal bill' will just transfer the current rules. Unless the government changes the law, which might not be easy, then BA and EasyJet will not be allowed to fly UK domestic routes. If the law is changed then there is the potential for airlines from outside the UK and EU to enter the market. All in all huge change to the status quo.
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Pabely..
M- & 2- registries are not open to commercial operations..Else gor blimey who only knows. Jersey have ZJ- now.....Standby... |
I was thinking more of the tax advantage of being on the OE- register, but being tongue in check about the flack of a curtain BBC program against tax avoidance generated by ill informed reporters!
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Originally Posted by southside bobby
(Post 9971739)
But really what I`m saying is lawyers "over there " project a business blocking scenario & lawyers "over here" for future proofing initiate a way around it & thru it..in this instance entailing a pot of black paint overnight to change a registration prefix with then the next day an OE-dash flying a UK domestic service down from Scotland...bizarre...& as I stated it`s just a folly of legislature for it hasn`t changed any metal on the ground.
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Another Daily Mail article circulating, criticising EZY about the use of speed tape. When will these people learn it's not as bad as they make it out to be?
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Chris4_
Cheers for the reply...I must admit my proverbial "pot of black paint" essentially is/was poetic licence...thanks for taking that trouble anyway.... |
Don't Easyjet take control of Air Berlin assets today?
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I thought authority for it was on the 12th?
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Done a little more research and " European Commission must announce its decision by 7 December 2017, but this deadline may be extended by 10 working days if commitments are offered by Lufthansa. In practice, the Commission is expected to announce its decision on the easyJet/Air Berlin case by 12 December 2017." but that is tied up with Lufthansa plans to take over Niki, Air Berlin’s Austrian holiday airline, and regional carrier LGW so who knows now!
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Using amongst others, 6 SmartLynx A320s for three months to commence ex Air Berlin ops.
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Those Smartlynx stay at TXL until the end of March. I wonder if they then move over to MAN, as that base is supposed to be getting 6 more aircraft next summer. Would be probably the easiest shoe-in I suspect....
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Possibly but not necessarily. Any increase could come via something else. I believe an old friend dropped in to LTN yesterday.
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That also depends how many A320ceo are left?
I doubt Easyjet would want any A321ceo that Monarch had, and that leaves just 9 A320 to pick from. I believe MT has taken 4 A321, and a carrier called Lanmei airlines another. Of the A320 fleet: G-ZBAR seems to have gone back to Air Malta G-OZBW has gone to Shannon and status is ‘leased out’ but no idea who to? G-ZBAH has been parted out G-OZBY has been re-registered OE-IFA so seems to have found a new home G-ZBAT has been re-registered as EI-GCX so may have been taken up. That leaves G-ZBAU now at LTN G-ZBAS/P in Holland G-OZBX at BHX Meaning actually just the 4 to pick from, if they haven’t been taken up, but that fact 2 are in hangars May indicate someone has taken them. |
I can't see EasyJet getting them, apart from G-ZBAS they are older than all the current EasyJet A320's. I wouldn't be surprised if more of the Monarch ones don't fly passengers again tbh.
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Originally Posted by RAT 5
(Post 9971878)
In the end we will end Uk with a mix of G-, OE- and HB- aircraft.
regulations concerning flying internaly within the EU. i.e. a Spain to Italy flight can (likely) not be flown by a G- aircraft as we will no longer be members of said union. Lots of energy going into the AOC aspect, bnut I'm still curious about the pilots' licencing and TRE certification. I'm not sure, but Is HB part of EASA? Can a UK licenced EASA pilot fly an HB a/c. Can an HB TRE sign the LPC for a UK pilots & vice versa? Will any pilots need to OE licenced and/or will any TRE need to be OE authorised? I would not be surprised if there were some gremlins lurking in the dark corners, and that's from a glass always half full guy. But I'm sure someone has the precise answer and we'll find it's all taken care of. But how, or is there no problem? Surely an EASA license would be valid across All the 28 nations irrespective of issuance. South side bobby the transfer of registration is far more than just a sticker on the outside, insurances and onboard documents hex codes for navigation aids even fuelling cards all need changing. OH and the UK currently remains in the Eu with open sky’s rules allowing any EU certified airliner and carrier to fly between between ANY EU airport including third nation domestic points. How do you think most of Alitalia massive fleet of Irish registered frames operate domestically ? The Austrian AOC will become far more important over the next few months and the net loser WILL be UK plc as the UK branch is going to be the part that requires ownership changes because it’s most unlikely UK government will continue to allow full foreign ownership and continued sixth freedoms beyond 2019 as things stand in the ongoing negotiations. |
MKY661
You are spot on, the only ex MON a/c that easy is going to take is G-ZBAS. :ok:
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Anyone know why EasyJet have suspended flying to SKG ? I’m aware that one of the runways is being rebuilt and most of the Navajos are u/s but that is normal for many Greek airports, other operators appear to be continuing to use the other runway.
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I believe it’s because 16/34 is now shut and they have opened a temporary short, narrow runway 10L/28R on the taxiway because the main 10/28 refurb still isn’t finished. No instrument approaches apart from a VOR letdown to circle which given the terrain down there looks like it could be quite sporting onto the temporary runway.
More info http://www.easyjet.com/en/help/prepa...el-information |
Spotty M, isn’t G-ZBAS refers are glorious leader (A)ndrew (S)waffield??..I’ll ‘Ask Andrew’...;)
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Wednesday should be an announcement regarding TXL
TXL-CTA is the first route announced and operated by EZY |
Thats a LOT of MUC flights, 8x daily on weekdays and 5/6 over Sat/Sun.
An airline or a bus service? |
Do you think they will cancel flights from SXF? Ir doesn't make too much sense to operate flights with the same departure times from both airports to places like VIE or ZRH, having a lot more daily departures from TXL.
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Berlin Tegel – Dusseldorf eff 07JAN18 2 daily (1 on Saturdays)
Berlin Tegel – Frankfurt eff 07JAN18 5 daily (4 on Saturdays) Berlin Tegel – Munich eff 07JAN18 8 daily (5 on Saturdays, 6 on Sundays; 1 flight also scheduled on 05JAN18) Berlin Tegel – Stuttgart eff 07JAN18 4 daily (3 on Saturdays) Berlin Tegel – Budapest eff 08JAN18 1 daily Berlin Tegel – Catania eff 08JAN18 1 daily Berlin Tegel – Copenhagen eff 07JAN18 2 daily Berlin Tegel – Fuerteventura eff 03FEB18 1 weekly Berlin Tegel – Helsinki eff 01MAR18 1 daily Berlin Tegel – Madrid eff 07JAN18 1 daily Berlin Tegel – Milan Malpensa eff 01MAR18 1 daily Berlin Tegel – Palma Mallorca eff 07JAN18 2 daily Berlin Tegel – Paphos eff 03MAR18 1 weekly Berlin Tegel – Paris CDG eff 07JAN18 1 daily (2 daily from 01FEB18) Berlin Tegel – Rome eff 07JAN18 1 daily (2 daily from 01MAR18) Berlin Tegel – Stockholm Arlanda eff 01MAR18 2 daily Berlin Tegel – Tel Aviv eff 01FEB18 1 daily Berlin Tegel – Vienna eff 07JAN18 4 daily (5 daily from 01FEB18, 4 daily on Saturdays) Berlin Tegel – Zurich eff 07JAN18 4 daily (3 daily on Saturdays; 5 daily from 01FEB18, 4 on Saturdays) https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...from-jan-2018/ AB had up to 12 daily flights TXL-MUC. MUC-TXL will be 20xLH, 8xEZY & 4xEW + high speed train (fastest in 4 hours). By March a total of 15 aircraft are needed. MUC, FRA, VIE and ZRH will have a nightstop. Flight times to CPH are not optimal for business traveller with departures at 10:10 and 14:40 out of Tegel. HEL, MAD, MXP "just" daily. In Germany CGN and in Europe AMS, BRU, BCN, ATH as well as BSL, GVA and some UK destinations are missing so far. Would have expect some more business routes to go from SXF to TXL while SXF will be more leisure traffic (e.g. CTA daily out of SXF and use TXL slots for a city destination). |
EZY to announce tomorrow two new routes from LGW summer 18 to Italy and Greece.
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I’m guessing the Italy one is LGW-GOA (Genoa).
MAN-GOA and MAN-NCE also announced tomorrow, but there will be a further announcement in the new year. |
My guess on Greece would be Skiathos.
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Originally Posted by toledoashley
(Post 9986706)
My guess on Greece would be Skiathos.
Ancona/Volos |
Neither would have been at the top of my list!
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Originally Posted by toledoashley
(Post 9986706)
My guess on Greece would be Skiathos.
As for Italy, my money is on Genoa. |
Originally Posted by Plane.Silly
(Post 9980274)
Thats a LOT of MUC flights, 8x daily on weekdays and 5/6 over Sat/Sun.
An airline or a bus service? |
Originally Posted by EZYPZY
(Post 9986802)
I'm going to go for Kavala, Greece. Always thought it would be a good fit for EZY from LGW. They are currently serving KVA whilst the runway at SKG undergoes maintenance. If not, maybe they could give Karpathos a go from LGW? Currently no served from UK at all.
As for Italy, my money is on Genoa. |
Berlin Tegel – Dusseldorf eff 07JAN18 2 daily (1 on Saturdays)
Berlin Tegel – Frankfurt eff 07JAN18 5 daily (4 on Saturdays) Berlin Tegel – Munich eff 07JAN18 8 daily (5 on Saturdays, 6 on Sundays; 1 flight also scheduled on 05JAN18) Berlin Tegel – Stuttgart eff 07JAN18 4 daily (3 on Saturdays) I do not know the success, or not, of the plan, but I thought some years ago the German transport dept was urging pax to shift from aircraft to hi-speed trains for internal sectors: so much so that I thought you could even buy a through ticket on LH where the connecting sector to FRA or MUC, perhaps others, was by train and included in the ticket. Has that worked out, was it ever implemented? There are many routes, even UK, where a city centre- city centre train journey, with working and/or relaxing time, is highly preferable to a pain in the rear trip via 2 airports and all the ensuing stress and possible chaos and delays. If train companies got their ticket prices and overall pax experience sorted out they could stuff airlines on many routes. I used to wonder at the London centre guys who slogged it up to LTN or STN to then go through the mill and how to catch an ez or FR flight to GLA or EDI, when a hi-speed train with dinner was so much more attractive. Was it just price that drove that market? Certainly not the last 20 seats or so. Are the trains, with reserved seats, so expensive? TALIS & TGV and the German version are tops. I know RYR undercut the BCN-MAD train ticket substantially. The train was businessmen prices. North South in Italy should be possible with train as an alternative; and France. Not sure about East-West in France; yet. |
I've seen on another forum that news regarding LPL will also be announced tomorrow.
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RAT5, a lot of business between GLA/EDI and LGW/LTN/SEN and also LHR isn't going into the centre of London. Yes some will "slog" it to the outer airports but a fair few will be heading to Brighton, Cambridge, Milton Keynes, Oxford etc etc or vice versa.
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So far:
Luton - Reus/Genoa/Thessaloniki/Palermo/Dalaman Gatwick - Volos/Ancona Southend - Bordeaux/Dubrovnik/Pula/Prague Bristol - Genoa/Seville Belfast - Isle of Man/Naples/Valencia Manchester - Genoa Liverpool - Palermo/Dalaman/Pula |
Easyjet
Luton - Palermo is also new
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Liverpool to Dalaman/Palermo/Pula
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Southend to Prague and Pula. Twenty EZY destinations available from SEN now.
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keep em coming....the tree huggers and the nimbys in the SEN area are going to love this
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