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IB4138 8th Apr 2018 07:19

Not according to the Airport website.

To & From Bournemouth Airport by Bus

Bournemouth Airport is covered by Yellow Buses service B1, which serves Bournemouth Square, Railway Station, Winton, Moordown, Northbourne and Parley Cross from 6am to 7pm.

The service runs seven days a week, with discounted weekly and monthly tickets available.

shamrock7seal 9th Apr 2018 03:08

Yes it’s only 6am to 7pm basically designed to catch office workers traveling to aviation park and perhaps staff to and from the terminal. I think only 1% of passengers actually use it.

FrequentlyFlying 9th Apr 2018 10:02

Bus service
 
A truly shocking service it has absolutely no resemblance to an airport shuttle -
It is not even timed to meet the few flight departures or arrivals - it takes forever via a convoluted route of many stops and it runs to suit the business park timings - what is so difficult in running a £5 a trip station to airport shuttle 2 x half hourly shuttle Christchurch station to airport to Bournemouth station/coach station to airport - 5am - 11pm - especially in summer - potentially 1 x half hourly winter?
Surely that's just a basic investment if you had any hopes of providing a LCC base - it's literally 10 mins max from Christchurch station 14 from Bournemouth direct - that's extremely attractive train to plane timings - I use the route (by car) -and a lot and the talk on here about traffic issues has never been my experience - it is rare and never critical delay wise - infact ideal for a bloody shuttle !!

Nakata77 10th Apr 2018 03:07

Agree FrequentlyFlying.

Eventually (it must only be a matter of time surely) once the airport is back to being a legitimate LCC hub then the next bus operator will be someone like MORE bus running from Poole to the airport via Bmth Train Interchange

Badgermanuk 10th Apr 2018 07:58

Bournemouth Airport boss Paul Knight to retire in September | Bournemouth Echo

MARKEYD 10th Apr 2018 09:00

That really can't come quick enough , perhaps the out going MD from Southampton can have a joint leaving do with the Bournemouth MD !!

MARKEYD 12th Apr 2018 08:03

Easy jet have released there schedule for next winter and great to see the carrier returning , with little impact it would seem on competition from Southampton on this route

6 flights operate again , with 2 flights on a Saturday and the Friday service is back up to an A320

Fri A320
Sat. A320 am flight
Sat. A319 pm flight
Sun A320
Mon A319
Thu. A319

Groundloop 12th Apr 2018 11:46


Originally Posted by MARKEYD (Post 10115483)
Easy jet have released there schedule for next winter and great to see the carrier returning , with little impact it would seem on competition from Southampton on this route

6 flights operate again , with 2 flights on a Saturday and the Friday service is back up to an A320

Fri A319
Sat. A320 am flight
Sat. A319 pm flight
Sun A320
Mon A319
Thu. A319

But you list Friday as an A319!

MARKEYD 12th Apr 2018 14:32

Nothing that can't be sorted !

Mr A Tis 12th Apr 2018 14:36

Let's hope the new Airport owners re-establish some of the lost LCC routes under MAG rule. Combined with that, they should also find a bus operator who can provide a reliable fast airport shuttle like FrequentFlying suggests, maybe some financial incentive to get a route going that covers arrivals & departures.
The B1 is really all about serving the industrial aviation park and not the terminal, the terminal is just a sideline.

Groundloop 13th Apr 2018 11:29


Let's hope the new Airport owners re-establish some of the lost LCC routes under MAG rule.
How will they do that? Form their own airline? If airlines pulled off routes because they were not making enough money there is not that much an airport owner can do do get them back.

SWBKCB 13th Apr 2018 11:34

Easy - put a bus on! :ok:

shamrock7seal 14th Apr 2018 02:11

Rumour on the SOU thread that easyJet are talking to SOU about S19 - not clear if for sum routes or continuation of GVA. Rigby had better be talking to easyJet to ensure that doesn’t happen. Else BOH’s core advantage over SOU is at risk (leisure sun routes).

MARKEYD 14th Apr 2018 08:25

Given how fast the take over took from the MAG group to Rigby , I bet there is a lot of things happening that we are unaware of behind the scenes

Just looking already announced at BOH in a short space of time is

Paphos for winter with Ryanair and a continuing base operating in the winter

Easy jet continuing to operate to Geneva with 6 flights despite SOU operation

TUI massively expanding in 2019 with 3 new routes on top of there core based routes

Additional P&O cruise flights to Barbados

Rigby have said they are actively looking to bring in more routes

Nakata77 17th Apr 2018 03:19

Why is the Ryanair BOH-KRK service not bookable beyond Jan-19???

yeo valley 17th Apr 2018 05:23


Originally Posted by Nakata77 (Post 10120866)
Why is the Ryanair BOH-KRK service not bookable beyond Jan-19???

Route dropped.???

MARKEYD 17th Apr 2018 08:22

Its been off sale since the beginning of January , only bookable up to end of January 19

The loads and prices have always been high on this relatively new route , had high hopes that it may continue this time , but perhaps not , unless its been suspended for a couple of months

Nakata77 17th Apr 2018 13:36

Maybe it’s a crewing issue? Would be odd to plan dropping it so far in advance

yeo valley 18th Apr 2018 00:24

Route dropped
 

Originally Posted by Nakata77 (Post 10121340)
Maybe it’s a crewing issue? Would be odd to plan dropping it so far in advance

It would not be a crew issue this far in advance. Think about it that its not far away from brexit in January,and air lines will and have been keeping a eye on routes to Europe in general. I recon with brexit a lot of other routes from UK airports will be in danger of being dropped as well.

shamrock7seal 19th Apr 2018 09:06

The SOU thread is reporting easyJet doing Palma four times per week from next year but I can't find anything confirming this.

If so it's bad news for BOH.

stewyb 19th Apr 2018 09:21

The route is already well served by Tui and Ryanair. Did you honestly think that Ezy would go head to head with these guys from the same airport?

SWBKCB 19th Apr 2018 10:16


Originally Posted by stewyb (Post 10123639)
Why is this bad news, the route is already well served by Tui and Ryanair. Did you honestly think that Ezy would go head to head with these guys from the same airport?

Major competitor moving in just down the road?

stewyb 19th Apr 2018 10:19


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 10123691)
Major competitor moving in just down the road?

I prefer to think of it as healthy competition :ok:

FrequentlyFlying 20th Apr 2018 22:43

KRK w19 past Jan now live
 
Obvs some reason be it error or other related item but KRK flights past 29 Jan to the end of W19 (end March) now live and bookable on Ryanair site - so no dropped flights - just real ones taking off and landing and not 'rumoured' ;)

Nakata77 21st Apr 2018 15:39

Excellent news

Hopefully more flights will be added to FR’s winter BOH programme as currently the utilisation of the single based aircraft is low

MARKEYD 24th Apr 2018 09:17

I don't think Ryanair will add any additional flights for the winter but the aircraft utilisation is probably not as good as it could be because some of the destinations are operated from oversea bases i.e. Malaga and Faro in the winter

Fueteventura would be a good winter addition again as proved popular many years ago , not sure why it was dropped

Nakata77 24th Apr 2018 11:11

No logical explanation for Ryanair’s route withdrawals given the massive amount of people still traveling to and from Fuerteventura from the core BOH catchment but traveling from LGW LTN STN BRS and even BHX

shamrock7seal 24th Apr 2018 11:14

How do u know this?

Nakata77 24th Apr 2018 14:49

2016 CAA origin and destination leakage data

MARKEYD 10th May 2018 08:23

Bournemouth handled 40 , 298 down 3 % , due mainly to the snow and diversions out of the airport

Ryanair started some of their seasonal routes again like PMI , GRO and MJV with loads of about 120 pax , this should obviously start to increase next month , while the rest of there routes averaged about 88 % loads

TUI as per normal went out about 97 % full with the last of the Barbados flights went out with 272 pax on a TUI 787 , the next flight goes out in November

Easy jet saw a few cancellations due weather and 7716 passengers used the route , averaging 161 pax per flight

shamrock7seal 11th May 2018 10:35


Originally Posted by MARKEYD (Post 10142836)
Bournemouth handled 40 , 298 down 3 % , due mainly to the snow and diversions out of the airport

Ryanair started some of their seasonal routes again like PMI , GRO and MJV with loads of about 120 pax , this should obviously start to increase next month , while the rest of there routes averaged about 88 % loads

TUI as per normal went out about 97 % full with the last of the Barbados flights went out with 272 pax on a TUI 787 , the next flight goes out in November

Easy jet saw a few cancellations due weather and 7716 passengers used the route , averaging 161 pax per flight



Not bad considering that SOU saw a 6.5% reduction and Exeter 5.7% reduction. It seems that quite a few UK regional airports all stuttered a little in March.

MARKEYD 12th May 2018 08:39

Bournemouth only lost about 1 , 200 passengers which was probably the 7 cancelled and diverted flights due to snow

Hays travel have sold out on there Barbados cruise charter for next Jan , using TUI 787 , only went on sale 5 months ago . This still leaves 3 Barbados P & O flights which are also selling well
Titan are now operating the Iceland charters for Super break holidays instead of Enter Air along with the flights to Ivalo ( " Santas Lapland " 3 flights )
Possible they may also operate the Funchal flight instead of Enter Air which may have been to large to try and sell all the seats

shamrock7seal 12th May 2018 21:31

Any idea on the aircraft type that Titan may use?

Barbados needs to be a weekly scheduled flight, along with a weekly Florida service

rog747 13th May 2018 06:10


Originally Posted by shamrock7seal (Post 10145139)
Any idea on the aircraft type that Titan may use?

Barbados needs to be a weekly scheduled flight, along with a weekly Florida service

A rather nice advertising agencies dream ''weekly schedules to MCO and BGI'' from Bournemouth

the few annual P&O using TUI Caribbean cruise charters do sell out quickly but 2 summers ago the Cunard Med charters (Titan) did not perform well hence Cunard no longer feature BOH on their fly/cruises

I agree that in high season I think any one-off or a small series to MCO JFK or Carribean trips direct from BOH would sell well (as did Xmas NYC shopping trips a few years back) but as for regular flights on a weekly basis the risk is enormous and no one would do that right now with almost if not daily LHR and LGW flights in strength and operating split loads such as LGW-BOH-MCO for instance are not popular with pax and can be fraught with Ops difficulties

MARKEYD 13th May 2018 08:24

A small series of flights in the summer by TUI to Orlando in July / Aug would be the best starter to test the market , although this was done back in 1996 / 97 with Britannia using a 767 200 via Bangor and Leisure 767 300 . Flights went out full but never became permanent .
TUI would probably have tried this before now if they thought there was a market , they know where their customer base is
Bristol is obviously doing well but that only started because of the 787 capabilities , who knows perhaps they may have a re think again

Gulf Julliet Papa 13th May 2018 12:44


Originally Posted by MARKEYD (Post 10145416)
A small series of flights in the summer by TUI to Orlando in July / Aug would be the best starter to test the market

And this is why it is pie in the sky thinking yet again on the BOH thread. If the flight is once per week, which it would be, that would tie up a 787 for 9 days out of 365 days. What is the plan for the other 356 days of the year? I'm not suggesting a whole aircraft be allocated to BOH, I'm more suggesting that in the middle of a busy summer season, why would they give one of their largest aircraft to operate to BOH when it could be used anywhere else where it is cheaper, and a safer market.

Jn14:6 14th May 2018 07:43

Oooh! Florida in Hurricane season........can't wait for those Markey!

rog747 15th May 2018 19:54

the uk summer school hols is the high season for our Florida market - hurricanes or not

Jn14:6 16th May 2018 08:43

That gives me two good reasons for not going at that time!:)

Knife-Edge 21st May 2018 22:08

Last year a weeks parking was £31 with a voucher code, this year it’s £55 with a voucher code. It looks like Rigby have put the prices up over 75% !!!!!!

That’s a hell of a price hike but I guess looking at it commercially they would have to lose a lot of customers before it returned them less money. I am one they have lost.


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