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MARKEYD 9th Dec 2017 17:13

Bournemouth handled 69 , 273 passengers in October up 1 % !! ( or just one extra flight to be honest )

TUI had good load factors to finish there season with , loads around the 96 % mark on all there flights .
Naples has performed really well as a new route as has the extra Lanzarote service this year

Ryanair was also high in the mid 170 pax per flight average .
Krakow the new route has done really well and boosted numbers throughout the year

Easy Jet started again today to Geneva , will be really interesting to see how this pans out with SOU . Interestingly the prices have remained at least twice that of SOU so far , so wait and see on that one

Not going to get into the discussion of scheduled flights again re the new owners but I personally feel they need to go back down the road of getting increased charter flights back in
TUI should be pushing I think for a 2nd based aircraft like Cardiff for the summer season or at least getting 3 rotations a day out of the based aircraft .
Prehaps the Rigby group may consider night openings in the summer which TUI could do with

Good luck to them

shamrock7seal 10th Dec 2017 07:03

Good news!

Let's see what November passenger numbers are like.

I think Cardiff is a great example of what Bournemouth can aim to achieve - in terms of charter/leisure potential. The catchment area volume is similar and the actual passenger volumes on certain leisure routes are already comparable. For example, in 2016 Cardiff handled around 109,000 passengers on its Palma route compared to Bournemouth with 115,000. Some other examples below:

Palma from CWL 109,000 BOH 115,000
Malaga from CWL 82,500 BOH 83,700
Faro from CWL 37,000 BOH 54,000
Barcelona/Girona from CWL 30,000 BOH 44,000
Gran Canaria from CWL 19,000 BOH 35,446
Alicante from CWL 93,000 BOH 65,000
Tenerife from CWL 78,000 BOH 47,000

However the distance between CWL and BRS together with the market potential for scheduled services (i.e inbound Business to a capital city) is very different when compared with BOH and SOU. For example it takes 1 hour 10 mins to drive from Cardiff to Bristol Airport. Compare that with just 35 mins from Bournemouth to Southampton Airport. This would suggest that CWL should sustain its own scheduled services to the likes of Dublin, Amsterdam and UK domestic, but BOH can't.

Nakata77 11th Dec 2017 08:33

Bournemouth handled 7 diversions yesterday

1 easyJet A319 from Amsterdam (STN)
1 Aer Lingus Regional ATR-72 from Cork (SOU)
1 private jet from SOU
1 British Airways A321 from Berlin pax later bussed to LHR
2 British Airways A320 from Milan and Prague pax later bussed to LHR
1 British Airways A319 from Nice pax later bussed to LHR

RW20 11th Dec 2017 13:26

Nakatta77

Any idea on what diversions SOU handled?

Nakata77 11th Dec 2017 13:38

RW20, I believe they handled two BA (1 A320 and 1 A319)

stewyb 11th Dec 2017 14:05

x 2 BA A320, from Krakow & Geneva

MARKEYD 14th Dec 2017 09:04

Super Break holidays are set to operate more charters from Bournemouth next summer along with 7 other UK airports

Destinations include Pisa , Tivat , Gibraltar , Verona , Funchal and Akureyri

Flight programme goes on sale soon , no idea at the moment who the airline operating is but this is certainly a step in the right direction in bringing in new destinations albeit only 1 or 2 flights to each destination

The Iceland programme sold out very quickly and Seville is selling well so fingers crossed

canberra97 14th Dec 2017 23:12

Now geography is my top subject and I have a degree in travel and Tourism but even after a search on Google I'm still totally unaware of where TRIVET is!

EGPO 15th Dec 2017 02:19

Any ideas which other Airports please , I'd love to visit Iceland and do some internal flights ( through hugging circular 180 approach onto a short runway with a half cliff at one end ( good video in a fokker 50 of the landing.
I've also wanted to visit Akureri. Stunning FIORD.

Wycombe 15th Dec 2017 07:43


Trivet
Might I suggest that it's Tivat, Montenegro. Interesting Airport there and decent scenery IIRC.

MARKEYD 15th Dec 2017 08:09

You are absolutely correct it is Tivat ( my spell check is shocking )

canberra97 15th Dec 2017 18:48

I had a feeling it was TIVAT, Montenegro.

Having been to Montenegro myself I can thoroughly recommend a visit to the country as the scenery is beautiful and Kotor is an absolutely wonderful old walled town not for from TIVAT as is BUDVA on the coast with a small walled town reminiscent of a smaller version of Dubrovnik.

canberra97 15th Dec 2017 19:06


Originally Posted by MARKEYD (Post 9990821)
You are absolutely correct it is Tivat ( my spell check is shocking )

Yes it is Mark!

We all use spell check these days but it's always best to check before you send as I am sure your agree :-)

IB4138 16th Dec 2017 08:03


wonderful old walled town not for from TIVAT as is BUDVA on the coast with a small walled town reminiscent of a smaller version of Dubrovnik.
Brings back the memories of the late 70's, when I used to see a lot of this part of the world. Tivat was a Yugoslav military airfield in those days, only open for commercial flights on one day each week and only for JAT, Aviogenex and Inex Adria flights.
Budva was destroyed by an earthquake in April 1979 and has been completely rebuilt since. I was there a month after the quake and saw the devastation first hand.

MARKEYD 16th Dec 2017 09:01

Super Break have started to release there programme of 1 off charters next summer with Verona , Malta , Funchal and Tivat ( careful ) now on sale

At the moment Enter Air is pencilled in to operate these flights but Super Break have also said airline / times etc TBA

These flights look to be like what " Newmarket " did a few years ago were 1 aircraft is operating all these flights and position around the UK after each service , interesting that Super Break have taken over where Newmarket left off last year

Norwich , Exeter , Humberside , Cardiff , Derry , Teeside and Leeds look to be the other airports being used throughout next summer

rog747 16th Dec 2017 09:43

nice 4 day trips on offer but they are not cheap at all - 6/7/800 quid
no doubt the old Palmair crowd will snap them up though - I'm tempted but they are rather pricey

edit madeira added 7 day break

Jerry123 16th Dec 2017 14:50

MARKEYD
Where or when are these onsale as I can't find them on Superbreaks website.

rog747 17th Dec 2017 09:23

here you go -twas a bit tricky to find but you seach bournemouth then click
attraction breaks on the left - do the same for exeter for instance

SuperBreak > Hotel Bookings, Reservations & Short Break Holidays

madeira added too

this is EXT deps
http://www.superbreak.com/search/sit...ttractionBreak

Jerry123 17th Dec 2017 13:22

Thanks you very much for that.

Nakata77 17th Dec 2017 16:06

Not doing themselves any favours making it so difficult to discover how to make a booking!

MARKEYD 19th Dec 2017 17:24

EasyJet are continuing into April again with flights to Geneva

Obviously not daily like last year as SOU is also continuing into April , however the flights are 5 times a week with 2 flights on a Sat , aircraft are all A320 excepet the service on a Tue remains an A319

Fares remain quite a lot higher than SOU on many days but look to be selling very well

shamrock7seal 20th Dec 2017 16:27

Great news but why the delay this season in putting April up later?

MARKEYD 20th Dec 2017 17:21

Its not late going on sale its much earlier !

This year they only put April on sale in Feb and increased the frequency

MARKEYD 23rd Dec 2017 13:37

Bournemouth handled 26 , 127 passengers in November down 6 %
This is down to Ryanair not operating at the start of Nov a number of school half term flights that this year feels into the end of Oct

Also Ryanair has dropped the LPA route this winter which although had very low loads all added to the figures

On a plus TUI averaged 92 % loads and Ryanair 90 %

The P&O Barbados charter with TUI 787 was also full up

Been looking in Jan at easyJet prices from BOH to GVA and they all seem to be at least twice / three times the price as that of SOU which on some days are selling at £ 8 . 99 from SOU !

MARKEYD 7th Jan 2018 10:40

Hays Travel have added a Barbados charter for Jan 2019 taking the number of fly cruises to 4 now for winter 2018/19 with P & O and Hays , all flights out there are with TUI 787

Santa holidays have added an extra flight to Lapland taking the number of trips up to 6 which is also good news

Buster the Bear 15th Jan 2018 08:40

https://www.insidermedia.com/insider...l-of-the-month

MARKEYD 15th Jan 2018 14:00

Large increase in holidays to Lapland over the December period

Last year saw 5 trips this winter there are 8 trips with Canterbury Travel and Santa Holidays covering the extra flights .
Canterbury are new to Bournemouth at the expense of Southampton it looks like with 2 new flights added .
Santa holidays have also added an additional flight and cancelled the SOU flight and are using Titan Airways instead of Small Planet

RW20 15th Jan 2018 14:55

as much as to be expected,Bournemoth taking up the charters,while Southampton plods on with mostly domestic.However the loss of Volotea as a weekly service coupled to stagnated new routes from Southampton should be a wake up call to the owners and management. If Flybe cut back further, who would replace them at SOU,with its limited airside facilities?.

canberra97 15th Jan 2018 17:28

It's best to keep that topic to the Southampton thread as we don't really want a BOH v SOU thread:-)

It's quite simple to understand why the Lapland flights are better suited to BOH due to the opening hours at SOU as many of those flights have run late and with some in the past having to divert to BOH due to SOU being closed, we're only looking at a couple of flights so no big loss to SOU only a gain for BOH regarding a couple of extra flights.

Flybe from Southampton is more than just domestic but let's leave it at that as this is the BOH thread!

RW20 15th Jan 2018 18:56

Canberra97
The fact that charters have to divert to Bournemouth due to restricted hours at SOU just highlights the fact that Southampton lacks the ability to operate these type of flights. All losses of flights to other airports are important.I close this point on this blog and return to Southampton line.Dont get me wrong I fly annually from Bournemouth,a great efficient airport on our doorstep.

Bournemouth Air 22nd Jan 2018 15:01

good to see the A340 arrive at Bournemouth and Mr Mckonkey said we would never have a 747 at Bournemouth

canberra97 22nd Jan 2018 21:24

Just out of curiosity who is Mr Mckonkey?

Not sure what your trying to make a point of but surely your aware that B747's have been seen at BOH many times over the last 20 years or so.

shamrock7seal 28th Feb 2018 02:22

CAA stats for Dec 17 still not released

Ryanair are carrying out a review of their single aircraft bases across Europe. Is Bournemouth considered a single aircraft base despite 3 aircraft being required for Summer season flying?

Tried to book BOH-KRK in March 2019 but flights are 'sold-out'

Nakata77 28th Feb 2018 02:32

Ryanair W18/19 is on sale already with a single based aircraft requirement. March is not released yet as it seems to be 11 months out only (Feb is on-sale)

Flitefone 28th Feb 2018 05:12

CAA Stats for BOH Dec17 are now on-line
 
shamrock7seal

Are avbl now

Gulf Julliet Papa 28th Feb 2018 06:31

It is single aircraft. If we use you logic Glasgow is a 12 aircraft base as (over summer), 2 aircraft are based there, and 10 more aircraft are used from other bases?

shamrock7seal 28th Feb 2018 07:19

How likely is BOH to survive this ‘review’ then of single aircraft bases?

SWBKCB 28th Feb 2018 07:33

I would imagine that the performance of all bases is under constant review, what makes you think there is a special 'single a/c' base review?

The Nutts Mutts 28th Feb 2018 08:39

Looking at the CAA stats, my back-of-a-fag-packet maths gives an average of 106 pax per flight on the BOH-GVA route in December, and approx 133 per flight from SOU based on MarkeyD's maths on the SOU thread. Doesn't give any indication on yields though obviously.

stewyb 28th Feb 2018 08:51

Of course BOU are using the A319 predominantly whereas SOU the A320, and SOU fares have been considerably cheaper due to it being a 1st season. However I cannot see Easy continuing with both airports that are only 30 miles apart and consolidation must be in their thinking. Either that or at least the 2nd BOU Saturday flight transferred to SOU as the route has been successful and seeing that fares only went on sale in July, many punters would have already forward booked with BOU.


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