Regarding Ryanair services to Paphos at least February was an improvement over January.
Month/Pax/Load Factor Nov'18 2,742 81% Dec 18 2,593 76% Jan 19 1,605 53% Feb 19 2,051 68% Hopefully March will be even better, although TUI start operating in competition to Ryanair during this month so thats 3 weekly services to Paphos. Perhaps over-capacity? |
So, does anyone know how the Dublin service did today? Was it a decent load factor?
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Superbreak are returning next winter , Feb 24 with an Akureyri Iceland charter using Titan aircraft
Hays travel have added another Barbados cruise charter departing Oct 2020 , using TUI 787 , they seem to do well on these services Hurtigruten have added a Nov flight to Bergen this year , with another 2 operating in Jan and March 2020 again using a Titan aircraft Looks to be 7 Santa flights over the Xmas period with Enter air , TUI and Titan operating the services will give dates nearer the time |
Issues at SOU with TUI no longer selling Flybe summer 2019 flights to the sun destinations. Whether those flights are still continuing seems to be anyone’s guess although Flybe are still selling them. It looks like a reduced schedule though I can’t really tell. Can’t. Mahon is operated by a Q400 (for the second year running) which for many will be a first and last experience. Compared with the passenger experience of a 737-800 with TUI from BOH there is no contest! TUI need to put Mahon back on sale next year (2020) from BOH. Why did they remove it!!!! What a mess. But BOH stands to benefit. |
Originally Posted by Sharklet_321
(Post 10442511)
Issues at SOU with TUI no longer selling Flybe summer 2019 flights to the sun destinations. Whether those flights are still continuing seems to be anyone’s guess although Flybe are still selling them. It looks like a reduced schedule though I can’t really tell. Can’t. Mahon is operated by a Q400 (for the second year running) which for many will be a first and last experience. Compared with the passenger experience of a 737-800 with TUI from BOH there is no contest! TUI need to put Mahon back on sale next year (2020) from BOH. Why did they remove it!!!! What a mess. But BOH stands to benefit. Also many outstation like BOH SOU and EXT are seeing 3rd party airlines operate their flights (albastar volotea freebird air europa etc) The 787's are being utilised on more short haul, and 2 x 737 flights combined into one if at all possible as seen on MAN-BHX-RHO the other day Gonna be a fun year working in Ops and traffic lol |
Originally Posted by Sharklet_321
(Post 10442511)
Issues at SOU with TUI no longer selling Flybe summer 2019 flights to the sun destinations. Whether those flights are still continuing seems to be anyone’s guess although Flybe are still selling them. It looks like a reduced schedule though I can’t really tell. Can’t. Mahon is operated by a Q400 (for the second year running) which for many will be a first and last experience. Compared with the passenger experience of a 737-800 with TUI from BOH there is no contest! TUI need to put Mahon back on sale next year (2020) from BOH. Why did they remove it!!!! What a mess. But BOH stands to benefit. There has to be some courage to invest in SOU now as more and more operators have pulled out, and regrettably the current narrative is all negative. |
To be fair here , BOH , EXT and SOU have always had 3rd party airlines operating a few of their services as the based aircraft at BOH and EXT are fully committed
This year they have increased flying from local UK airports and have called upon the services of Freebird , Norwegian and Air Europa as usual to operate these new routes Its early in the season so of course to combine 2 UK airports makes sense when the loads are low but come 1 st May its game on !! There are 2 787 s already committed this summer to operate around the Med as already discussed on the TUI page and again they can't change this at this late stage Do agree however with " ROG " the schedule is going to very tight this summer and will no doubt at some point see it fall apart with all the usual summer problems taking there toll |
I should imagine in sheer desperation TUI are trying to reactivate the 3 757's that just last month were retired if at all possible - I'm not sure of their fates though - scrap/freighter or costly C checks due?
plus get back the Sunwing 738 leases if poss too?....but that would be breaking their contract with Sunwing, who have their own MAX's grounded :( What a summer this will be...I wonder if reservations are canning pax numbers to enable combining more flights onto one 787? and back to SOU - any news on the LOLO airline of choice? that's gonna be rather interesting at this late stage |
Good to see Easy jet return for another winter season
6 flights again a week , with the 2nd Saturday flight upgraded to a A320 as is Thursday now A320 . Crystal ski take a large allocation on the weekends which prove popular |
Any one know what happened to TUI this week. Flight from TFS diverted to Faro then flew on to BOH. Next day flight to PFO was six hours late leaving. Return had to divert to BRS as BOH is closed at 2.30am. TUI brought another ac from Gatwick for next days flight
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Other Opportunities
I wonder if the new management sales team has looked at non BOH originators? Some research on destinations that are low-cost carrier hubs might prove more beneficial than forever hoping Ryanair or TUI will add an extra aircraft.
BOH has amazing potential to attract visitors to the Jurrasic Coast, Salisbury, as recent events die down, and London is easily accessible, must make some joint destinations potentially viable. |
TUI in recent days have been re scheduling quite a few flights for next summer 2020
Nothing to get excited about yet but there could be a possibility of a 2nd based aircraft for the weekend , there are still lots of gaps and missing flights but it could all come together Mon BOH CFU BOH LPA BOH Tue BOH PMI BOH KEF BOH Wed BOH .... BOH PFO BOH Thu BOH PMI BOH ACE BOH Fri BOH CFU BOH TFS BOH A/C 2 BOH .... BOH HER BOH Sat BOH PMI BOH RHO BOH A/C 2 BOH ... BOH AYT BOH Sun BOH ACE BOH BOH ... BOH A/C 2 BOH PMI BOH ZTH BOH Missing at the moment is Mahon , Ibiza and Naples . Antalya has been brought back in house and DLM is operated probably by Freebird TUI officially launch there 2020 programme on 25 April with all the remaining holidays going on sale then , so should have a better idea if a 2nd aircraft could be put in place for some of the week , here's hoping ..... |
I would say that’s super exciting I only wish they would offer Croatia (Dubrovnik, Pula and Split) and Funchal from Bournemouth. Hope that comes in 2020. |
MARKEYD surely TUI wouldn’t base a second aircraft only for the weekends? In this case Fri, Sat and Sun. Isn’t that operationally more challenging than just basing a permant second aircraft? Is anyone aware of TUI doing this sort of pattern anywhere else? |
GHA
Out of curiosity, who is the ground handling agent at Bournemouth? Is it Swissport? Just as Bournemouth airport advertising CSA and ramp jobs but not mentioning Swissport etc. TIA |
BOH is creating its own ground handling from June 2019 and the contract with Swissport is terminated. |
Originally Posted by Sharklet_321
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BOH is creating its own ground handling from June 2019 and the contract with Swissport is terminated. |
TUI summer 2020
Hi all , TUI have added a Monday flight to Corfu in addition to the Friday flight for 2020 Also a new Sunday flight to zante for 2020 Col |
Thats fantastic news from TUI and looking more likely to have a 2nd aircraft from Friday - Sunday now
This leaves only 4 flights to fill in the gaps and with Mahon , Ibiza and Naples not loaded yet it shouldn't be problem Prehaps with no Jet 2 announcement for 2020 , TUI are jumping in quick to claim there spot Have edited post 573 and filled in the gaps |
Originally Posted by MARKEYD
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This leaves only 4 flights to fill in the gaps and with Mahon , Ibiza and Naples not loaded yet it shouldn't be problem
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Originally Posted by Dropoffcharge
(Post 10448661)
Assuming Ibiza is on it's usual Wednesday, will a 2nd A/C also be required for that day, due to the longer leg Paphos flight??
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Good move by TUI on increasing frequency of CFU to 2 weekly. These days people want to fly for 4 or 5 days not a full 7 days. My guess would be that we could see more frequency on Tenerife, Ibiza and Mahon, perhaps even an additional DLM to take the frequency back to twice weekly as it was back in 2008?09? It would unlock a lot more options for a larger number of people.
I am not sure that NAP will come back? VRN would be better for the BOH market. All will be revealed 25th April. MARKEYD what are your thoughts on Ryanair Paphos for the winter season? |
Great news. It must mean that TUI group is happy with the forward bookings of the new BOH routes for this summer. Enough to have been encouraged to do even more Greek flights next year. This is BOH's forte - mid haul appealing to a larger catchment and not just tiny Bournemouth.
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MARKEYD have you done a similar aircraft allocation for the single based Ryanair jet? It would be interesting to see what flying is based and if they are fully utilised.
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Originally Posted by Nakata77
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MARKEYD have you done a similar aircraft allocation for the single based Ryanair jet? It would be interesting to see what flying is based and if they are fully utilised.
This is the Ryanair based aircraft , which is fully committed this summer as usual Mon BOH RMU BOH GRO BOH ALC BOH Tue BOH TFS BOH RMU BOH Wed BOH RMU BOH GRO BOH ALC BOH Thu BOH MLA BOH AGP BOH Fri BOH RMU BOH GRO BOH ALC BOH Sat BOH PFO BOH GRO BOH Sun BOH MLA BOH ALC BOH DUB BOH Crystal ski has again taken a large block booking out on the Saturday Easy jet Geneva ski route which has always proved very popular but as already discussed Turin won't be returning this winter season. It's a real shame that Innsbruck isn't tried again with Inghams ski, or Crystal use the TUI based aircraft on a Sunday to CMF or SZG Doubtful Ryanair will operate the Paphos route in the winter as loads looked below what they would expect although since March its picked up again, i think 1 flight would have been better suited. Meanwhile, the powerhouse of TUI is operating a near full winter season to PFO this winter |
Thank you for doing all that work MARKEYD
It shows that more than half the Ryanair flying is done by non-based aircraft. I think they are doing 45 or 46 departures a week this summer of which only 18 are done by the based unit. |
TUI Sumner 2020
Hi All Looks like the gap on the Sunday next summer with TUI is filled now with a flight to Dalaman in the afternoon. Cheers Col |
Well spotted Col Thats another destination filled as 2 a week now to Dalaman and 1 a week to Antalya 3 flights left then to fill then , MAH , IBZ and NAP Interesting that Exeter with TUI has cut back massively next year 2020 with Turkey to only 1 flight a week and Antalya has been cut suddenly to just July / August this year and nothing at the moment for next summer, although could change of course Its also good news that Bournemouth stays open much longer now in the summer to 0200 Rigby group are certainly moving forward with Bournemouth |
MARKEYD Is that an official extension of their opening time? It is published as 21:30 with prior extension required. Is this a prior extension example or a permanent change in opening hours to 02:00?
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Actually I think it’s an extension till 0200 , not sure how it works in the summer to be honest I guess everyone sits around waiting for the late arrivals to land as most evenings the TUI flights are after midnight so just assumed the airport is open until then Prehaps someone in the know might have a better idea of how it works |
Originally Posted by MARKEYD
(Post 10450785)
Actually I think it’s an extension till 0200 , not sure how it works in the summer to be honest I guess everyone sits around waiting for the late arrivals to land as most evenings the TUI flights are after midnight so just assumed the airport is open until then Prehaps someone in the know might have a better idea of how it works |
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Not altogether sure what is happening with TUI in 2020 at the moment as new flights are operating to Zante and extra flights to Corfu and Dalaman but according to my contact in TUI , flights to Ibiza and Mahon are not operating next year.
Considering both destinations have been operated from BOH since " whenever " it's quite a surprise . Queue Ryanair to IBZ again Still leaves 3 gaps in the schedule at the moment, what could happen now is TUI reschedule flights and use some aircraft as W patterns from elsewhere which would then be no requirement for a 2nd aircraft Watch this space though as still a year away |
Best to wait and see for 2020. There have been many rumours about an expanded programme.
DAT is converting their ferry flight from BOH-BLL on 3rd May to a revenue flight. The MD-82 aircraft has been painted in a retro scheme of the airline. If anyone wants to book the flight which is going for around 130quid you have to email [email protected] |
There must be more coming re TUI summer 2020 MARKEYD especially since CFU was weaker than IBZ, MAH and NAP and yet is getting more frequency.
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Loganair
Apparently Loganair has made the Saturday Jersey service ‘via Guernsey’ thereby reducing services by one weekly flight. Can’t be doing very well for them to take this action before flights have even started. |
Originally Posted by shamrock7seal
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Apparently Loganair has made the Saturday Jersey service ‘via Guernsey’ thereby reducing services by one weekly flight. Can’t be doing very well for them to take this action before flights have even started. |
Originally Posted by Nakata77
(Post 10455616)
Best to wait and see for 2020. There have been many rumours about an expanded programme.
DAT is converting their ferry flight from BOH-BLL on 3rd May to a revenue flight. The MD-82 aircraft has been painted in a retro scheme of the airline. If anyone wants to book the flight which is going for around 130quid you have to email [email protected] Thanks |
Originally Posted by Ex EGKK ATCO
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Is the DAT flight an ex maintenance flight or is it flying in with pax? Any idea of ETD? Thanks |
Cheers. I’ll wait to hear from DAT next week. |
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