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Le Tirer 19th Aug 2019 11:58

June 2019 Passenger Numbers
 
The June figures have been published at last with a total of 89,200 passengers up 19% on 2018 (74870).

Unfortunately, despite the CAA claim that 'June tables are now complete', any sort comparison with 2018 by destination is fairly meaningless as the Route Analysis tables are a whopping 9,829 passengers short. It is anybody's guess where these missing numbers should be but from past experience it could well be the TUI routes again.

LT

shamrock7seal 20th Aug 2019 16:22

Does in fact look like something is very wrong with the TUI numbers. All of the routes (apart from the Turkish ones) looks to be about 50% under-reported. They can't all be 50% declines on last year. This must be the data discrepancy.


Sharklet_321 21st Aug 2019 08:38

BOH June passengers as reported above 89,200 versus 74,870 up 19%.

Positives

Paphos 3,941 +164%
Alicante 5,723 +1%
Malta 2,782 - no change. Positive result considering EXT-MLA route in competition

Negatives

All other routes are showing significant negatives which simply cannot be correct given the overall growth.

Naples 0 -100%
Corfu 930 -50% (surely this is not correct)
Ibiza 739 -49% (ditto)
Mahon 767 -48% (ditto)
Lanzarote 1,484 -46% (ditto)
Rhodes 1,110 -40% (ditto)
Las Palmas 2,442 -25%
Dalaman 1,368 -21%
Krakow 2,917 -9%
Malaga 8,671 -6% (affect of Ryanair EXT-AGP?)
Murcia -5%
Faro 5,795 -5%
Girona 5,975 -5%
Tenerife 2,782 -4%
Palma 15,059 -2% (TUI numbers are not correct in this mix, was expecting PMI to show positive growth due additional flight per week by Ryanair)

New

Dublin 5,209
Heraklion 1,094
Kafalonia 742
Antalya 1,303
Prague 2,630
Jersey 253 (pathetic!)
Guernsey 58 (laughably low)

Total new routes: 10,978 still leaving 3,352 pax unaccounted for (can't be football or other one off charters which I estimate to not be more than 500-600)

MARKEYD 21st Aug 2019 09:23


Originally Posted by Le Tirer (Post 10549080)
The June figures have been published at last with a total of 89,200 passengers up 19% on 2018 (74870).

Unfortunately, despite the CAA claim that 'June tables are now complete', any sort comparison with 2018 by destination is fairly meaningless as the Route Analysis tables are a whopping 9,829 passengers short. It is anybody's guess where these missing numbers should be but from past experience it could well be the TUI routes again.

LT

I make it the same

I think its definitely the TUI figures are well out and have been for ages now
As regards Ryanair and Palma this month there is a big increase of an extra 2500 pax due to the extra flight and i believe if the TUI figures are adjusted there should have been approx 17, 500 pax use the Palma route in June

Sharklet_321 23rd Aug 2019 09:34

I wish BOH would bring Wizzair back. We need service to Warsaw, Budapest and Bucharest. They seem intent on developing from Doncaster and now Southend complimenting their Luton base so they have a positive mind-set with the UK despite Brexit. Surely the MD at BOH could utilise his past relationship with Wizzair when he was at DSA?

MARKEYD 23rd Aug 2019 13:43

How do you know that the MD hasn’t all ready been activating a plan by talking with Ryanair and Wizz already

Krakow and Prague are doing very well so far and Bournemouth as we know , it responds far better to small controlled growth

Watch the space for something, the MD is on the case

yeo valley 23rd Aug 2019 14:34


Originally Posted by Sharklet_321 (Post 10552310)
I wish BOH would bring Wizzair back. We need service to Warsaw, Budapest and Bucharest. They seem intent on developing from Doncaster and now Southend complimenting their Luton base so they have a positive mind-set with the UK despite Brexit. Surely the MD at BOH could utilise his past relationship with Wizzair when he was at DSA?

If the services out of BOH then they would not have pulled out.Pax loads don't matter so much but its the yield that counts.The workers over here are going back to their respective countries which will helpno route even the established services from various airports will struggle.We got 30 days or so till we know about Brexit in which way it will go for a deal or no deal.So deal or no deal either way it will affect the migrante workers and the airlines.I was surprised they going to start services from SEN with LTN not far away.

Captcargo 26th Aug 2019 10:57

Route expansion may well be easier through non-originating traffic than always trying to get Ryanair to increase their presence, Our area has a lot to offer the tourist from abroad, link this to interesting destinations should produce good load factors and yield. I wish the MD well in his negotiations.

Sharklet_321 28th Aug 2019 15:16

July Channel Islands Data
 
BOH-GCI 33
BOH-JER 368
Total: 401

Capacity: 962

Load factor: 42%

MARKEYD 30th Aug 2019 12:27

At the moment the Ryanair schedule has been changed a little for the winter to accommodate the closure in the Canary Islands

The TFS flights are operated by a BOH based aircraft and the LPA flight on a Saturday has also now changed to become a BOH based flight with the ALC service operating in the morning

Remains to be seen how the Faro flights work but looks to be aircraft availability

Sharklet_321 30th Aug 2019 13:09

New flights to Reus
 
New flights just announced by BOH and TUI to Reus from May 2020

LAX2000 30th Aug 2019 14:41

Be nice if TUI could operate the Friday Heraklion flight to schedule, every week it seems to leave over a hour later than its departure time of 13:25.

MARKEYD 30th Aug 2019 15:19


Originally Posted by Sharklet_321 (Post 10557887)
New flights just announced by BOH and TUI to Reus from May 2020

This was actually announced back in July , post 708

“ do keep up 007 “ !!! 🤣

Sharklet_321 30th Aug 2019 16:26


Originally Posted by MARKEYD (Post 10557972)


This was actually announced back in July , post 708

“ do keep up 007 “ !!! 🤣

oops my bad 😳

loopylee 30th Aug 2019 18:24


Originally Posted by LAX2000 (Post 10557950)
Be nice if TUI could operate the Friday Heraklion flight to schedule, every week it seems to leave over a hour later than its departure time of 13:25.

Due to changes to flights CFU instead of NAP on Friday AM the slots changed and have changed the scheduled times. Flight radar didn’t catch up so looks like it’s late every week. They are also tight turnaround times so things can run late!

Sharklet_321 2nd Sep 2019 11:14

Really annoying also that Flight Radar never picks up the Freebird flights to Dalaman and Antalya or the Norwegian flights to Tenerife.

LAX2000 2nd Sep 2019 12:02


Originally Posted by loopylee (Post 10558096)


Due to changes to flights CFU instead of NAP on Friday AM the slots changed and have changed the scheduled times. Flight radar didn’t catch up so looks like it’s late every week. They are also tight turnaround times so things can run late!

The departure time of 13:25 is on my TUI ticket, not flight radar

Sharklet_321 6th Sep 2019 10:49

Thomas Cook now appear to be selling city breaks from Bournemouth on Ryanair flights to Dublin, Prague and Krakow.

Smart move and hopefully this will result in further sustainability of these markets going forward

MARKEYD 24th Sep 2019 15:19

Bournemouth passenger figures for July are finally out and it was worth the wait

Figures show 95 , 320 used Bournemouth up a whopping 28 % or just under an extra 21 , 000 passengers from last July

Unfortunately there are no passenger figures at all to compare with last years movements , something very strange going on this year with CAA figures for BOH

Ryanair have started to release summer 2020 routes with Dublin and Krakow continuing as before but on slightly different days and same frequency


RW20 24th Sep 2019 16:38

Well done BOU!,good management and investment has really paid off!
The airport is certainly becoming THE regional airport of the south coast.

MARKEYD 1st Oct 2019 16:35

At the moment Ryanair are slowly releasing there programme for summer 2020 which is excactly the same as this year
There are still some destinations to be added like PMI , GRO and PFO and hopefully will see an increase in flights per week like this year , later on this year probably

At the moment TUI have added an extra 3 flights a week to there schedule CFU , REU and ZTH making it there largest summer programme ever from Bournemouth

One other bit of news is that Loganair have taken BOH off there destination list , absolutely no surprise there at all

Flitefone 1st Oct 2019 20:19

July traffic details now on CAA Statistics pages (xls file)
 

Originally Posted by MARKEYD (Post 10578403)
Bournemouth passenger figures for July are finally out and it was worth the wait

Figures show 95 , 320 used Bournemouth up a whopping 28 % or just under an extra 21 , 000 passengers from last July

Unfortunately there are no passenger figures at all to compare with last years movements , something very strange going on this year with CAA figures for BOH

Ryanair have started to release summer 2020 routes with Dublin and Krakow continuing as before but on slightly different days and same frequency

Details look very good - significant growth across the board vs last year.

FF

CCFAIRPORT 9th Oct 2019 13:32

regarding the website , ryanair will close the Bournemouth-Pafos route the 4th of November !

MARKEYD 9th Oct 2019 14:59

Its not being closed , the Paphos route is seasonal now , performed very well this summer but low loads in the winter
TUI are actually operating all year now with this route except for a 6 week break in January

Ryanair still to load quite a few routes from BOH though so will have to see

Le Tirer 12th Oct 2019 20:59

Paphos flights for Summer 2020 are now showing on the App but not the website although not yet bookable as it says "The flight is sold out". Tuesdays and Saturdays as this year from 31/3 to 24/10. Still waiting for GRO, PMI and LPA.

adfly 17th Oct 2019 19:21

W19/20 Summary
 
Regular winter summary below, thanks to MARKEYD for info on the one off flights. Additional Ryanair capacity should improve numbers this winter.


easyJet Switzerland

Geneva - 6 weekly 319/20


Hurtigruten Cruises

Bergen - Titan 321 (08/11, 29/11, 08/03)


Newmarket Holidays

Pajala - Enter 738 (07/12)


Omega

Northern Lights Flight - TUI 738 (18/02)


P&O Cruises

Barbados - TUI 789 (03/01, 25/01, 20/03)


Ryanair - (1 based 738)

Alicante - 3-4 weekly
Dublin - 4 weekly
Faro - 2-3 weekly
Krakow - 2-3 weekly
Las Palmas - 1 weekly
Malaga - 2 weekly
Malta - 2 weekly
Prague - 2 weekly
Tenerife South - 1 weekly


Santa's Lapland

Ivalo - Titan 320/321 (30/11, 07/12, 18/12)


Transun

Enontekio - TUI 738 (14/12), Enter 738 (19/01, 30/01)


TUI - (1 based 738)

Arrecife - 2 weekly
Kittila - 07/12
Las Palmas - 1 weekly
Paphos - 1 weekly (until 25/12 and 26/02-)
Tenerife South - 2 weekly



Overall

Average of between 31 and 35 weekly departures or 4-5 per day. ( W18/19 - 26 to 28 weekly departures, 4 per day)

Le Tirer 18th Oct 2019 14:53

Ryanair continue to slowly add their Summer 2020 flights. PMI is now on sale for Tuesday and Wednesday, hopefully the rest of the week will be added shortly as there were daily flights this summer. Still no GRO or LPA.

LT

yeo valley 18th Oct 2019 15:24

Gro base closed. Flights to Gro are only being done from STN at the moment.If Gro is dropped then perhaps open up another route ,or could add a rotation to a route already announced.Still early days for Ryanair to get all routes sorted.

Le Tirer 18th Oct 2019 15:40

All the GRO flights this summer (Mon, Wed, Fri ,Sat) were operated by the BOH based aircraft. All of the Summer 2020 flights for the based aircraft have been loaded except for GRO. It will be interesting to see what happens.

Sharklet_321 18th Oct 2019 21:16

Barcelona would be good on these days from BOH

southender 19th Oct 2019 08:03

Barcelona - not a place to visit at the moment though

rog747 19th Oct 2019 10:22

Seems there is a Pprune rumour about Jet 2 and BOH.............I know nothing...

yeo valley 19th Oct 2019 11:20

GRO
 

Originally Posted by Le Tirer (Post 10597640)
All the GRO flights this summer (Mon, Wed, Fri ,Sat) were operated by the BOH based aircraft. All of the Summer 2020 flights for the based aircraft have been loaded except for GRO. It will be interesting to see what happens.

You looking at what I posted wrong. The only GRO flights will be STN. No GRO flight,and it wont be added later. I cant say it much more clear than that.GRO dropped and lets hope they add some thing to replace it.

Sharklet_321 20th Oct 2019 14:13

Ryanair Paphos in S20
 
Flights now on sale on Tue and Sat for Paphos in S20. Annoyingly someone has edited Wikipedia showing flights incorrectly ending 4Nov’19.

MARKEYD 20th Oct 2019 14:56

It’s rather slow work in progress with Ryanair 2020
At the moment I think they are re jigging the schedule as still 4 gaps left from the defunct Gerona route and remains to be seen if they fit a Palma rotation or indeed a new destination ( Pisa or Barcelona would be good )

I also think LPA has gone for the summer as no room in the schedule to fit that long sector in

shamrock7seal 21st Oct 2019 15:13

Apparently Lauda are operating from several UK airports to Palma next year on behalf of Ryanair. Not yet clear if this includes BOH but may explain why currently only Tues and Weds flights are on sale.

Sharklet_321 21st Oct 2019 17:18

New route being revealed tomorrow

Dropoffcharge 21st Oct 2019 18:03


Originally Posted by Sharklet_321 (Post 10599951)
New route being revealed tomorrow

With Ryanair??

BOHEuropean 21st Oct 2019 19:35


Originally Posted by Dropoffcharge (Post 10599974)
With Ryanair??

Bournemouth Airport's Facebook page shows: "We're going where the sun shines brightly, we're going where the sea is blue...a new destination route from Bournemouth Airport is unveiled here tomorrow. Find out where, and with what carrier, from 10am Tuesday, 22nd October."

Buster the Bear 21st Oct 2019 20:07

Well according to Cliff Richard, he ended up in Athens.


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