Connect in big letters by Virgin in small letters underneath possibly

Flybe are to end their Manchester to Glasgow flights from 26th October, thats a surprise, I wonder if we will see Loganair pick it up?

Flybe
 

MAN/GLA is not a popular route as the rail service is far too good and probably quicker

It's not that bad a drive either using as it does the only bearable part of the M6 through the lovely Lake District with the prospect of a plesant stop at the UK's best motorway services half way up. No laptop out, belts off, let's have look at your shoes mate nonsense either.
I can imagine there being a market for it though for connecting traffic in the future.

Not sure it is that good. Lots of complaints over the summer of people having to stand all the way to/from Scotland due lack of rolling stock, trains curtailed due lack of drivers etc. Constant promises of new trains and additional carriages. If you take Trip Advisor the ratings for TPE are : Excellent 38, Very Good 33, Average 37, Poor 38 & Terrible 168. Maybe they are improving? -
I think the jury is out on whether the train is better than the plane.

Typical train journey Stockport - Glasgow Central is c3h45 with one change.
Pretty close to the time it would take to ho Stockport by train (if very lucky) to MAN or taxi + check in mjn 1 hr before flight + 1 hour flight + travel from GLA to city centre.
Maybe not worth hassle.

What's the journey time by train if you want to go from the pavement outside the terminal at MAN to the pavement just outside the terminal at GLA?

I know this is now verging into Off-Topic, but TPE's new trains for the Manchester/Liverpool to Scotland via the West Coast Mainline are finally in the testing/training phase and should be introduced before Christmas. While I find the current trains quite pleasant, they are short and often crowded and the door at 1/3 and 2/3 means in the winter station stops get a bit draughty. But with TPE, Virgin and the car all being viable alternatives from quite a few stations (soon including Liverpool) it becomes less hassle to take the train versus flying.

This, I think, would take care of most of the O&D stuff. As for connections, Glasgow appears to have a fairly mixed picture with routes coming and going but a solid long haul service from Emirates along with KLM and BA. Maybe connection demand isn't there, especially when there are better alternatives to connecting in Manchester which as a connection experience leaves quite a bit to be desired.

Willingness to ditch a route is probably a good sign, given the situation they're in. If the O&D is there, I'm sure Loganair will mop it up.

Lets say 2.1/2 hours.
However, I don't live on the pavement outside MAN terminal and didn't work right outside GLA Arrivals.
The important thing, for me anyway would be Point to Point Total Time of Journey.

My money would be on Logan taking it if they have sufficient capacity as it used to be a decent route for them before Flybe turned up. Lower capacity = higher yields (assuming reasonable timings) and the demand should be there given that it's over 3 hours on the train.

ATR & Colours
 

Lets hope they don't go down the route of Connect as the main segment of the name but on this same theme G-FBXE ATR is all white on the apron at East Mids, will this aircraft sport the new brand/scheme?

On the matter of GLA-MAN going I have been looking at the aircraft requirement (posted on the MAN thread) and I could only get to 46 aircraft required albeit one Monday in November and although that is not the greatest sample it potentiially leaves a host of aircraft not flying come winter and has any leases been terminated early or is this just to stop leaking money?

Pete

The ATR has gone to Dublin tonight under BE flight number

Thanks Jensdad,
I completely get about the franchisees fleets being completely separate but I thought I'd read on here at some point that they'd be having some of the FlybeNordic ATRs too???
EI-BUD

Ah yes, this is true. There was something about them taking some of those. Must admit, I'd forgotten about their Scandinavian venture.

Delta own 49% of Virgin Atlantic and Air France/KLM 31%

And of course with the USA slapping punitive duties on aircraft imports from the EU, Delta might see the prospect of diverting some of their A220 order to FlyBe thus saving additional costs that may not have been budgeted for.

Airbus has an A220 production line in Mobile, Alabama so only EU manufactured aircraft would be effected and I doubt Delta will receive any.

Probably not then!

It's going to be reregistered to Stobart Air so I'd imagine it will stay all white

Isn't it also a known fact the E75's cost a small fortune to operate and a sensible mid/long term business case for replacements could be the correct direction of travel, sooner rather than later and whilst the new company is in the midst of a full on top down restructure!

So the minority shareholder of the minority shareholder will re-allocate some of their expensive new assets to help turn round a loss making business in a declining market? Should go down well in Atlanta!

its a crazy idea
But it might just work !

Im not sure if its been reported on PPRUNE yet...https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...mingham-route/

It will be interesting to see if Flybe stay on the BHX to GLA and /or EDI routes once Easyjet start operating


bb

Yes already reported weeks ago.

I saw Birmingham to Glasgow a few weeks ago but not Birmingham to Edinburgh.


https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-a9057151.html

Last week Brigantee wrote;
Well here we are and there's no sign yet of an A220 announcement - however you might just have been a week early ...

Ho hum... Coincidence? Airbus announces undisclosed orders for 14 A220s (ten -100s and four -300s) - it appears these are two different orders from separate customers

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...bove-1-461320/

It correlates with this, however that rumoured tweet talked about 20 frames and could be me doing 2+2=5...

Could be 6 options.

I assume next Tuesday is still in the diary then?

Yes - new boss hosting a "Leadership" briefing to inform heads of Depts about the future plans so we should get some details soon afterwards.