Quote "Is the British Government really going to rely on Blue Islands and Aurigny for Regional Connectivity on the South Coast?"

Err......yes, they are

GPRPE just departed BHD.

​​​​​​GJEDW also on the way from EDI. Both airframes showing as owned by Flybe. Who would be flying these ?

SOU Restart of Services
 

Southampton will not only be served by Blue Islands to Jersey, and Aurigny to Alderney and Guernsey. Loganair start services next week to Newcastle, Glasgow, and Edinburgh. Eastern start on 22/06 to Aberdeen, Newcastle, Belfast, and Manchester, then Leeds/Bradford and Teeside. They will slowly ramp up schedules and destinations through Jul, Aug, and Sep.

Not forgetting Dublin also in July with Eastern. Still waiting to hear on AMS & CDG!

Contract pilots flying G-PRPE and G-JEDW.

There is 2 Aircraft Maintenance Companies at Saarbrucken Airport that does work on the Dash 8.
Might be flown to Saarbrucken Airport for engine changes.
As one engine on G-PRPE might belong to G-JEDW, and one engine on G-JEDW might belong to G-PRPE.

G-JECM was having an engine change at SOU yesterday. Chat elsewhere suggests this a/c was u/s before Flybe ceased ops

Correct - it was.

Just the one banjaxed aircraft?

Well G-JECK has had a ground incident today in Aberdeen. Looks like it hit a Loganair E145 whilst taxiing and the Q400’s cockpit is wedged underneath the right hand engine on the Emb. Loss of brake pressure whilst taxiing? Wouldn’t be the first time...

Nothing like one last stab at the competition...

Photos or it didn't happen.... :-)

I think that one is owned by ex airline flybe so part of the tiny amount of assets left.

The administrators will be pleased.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....351da30db.jpeg
(it's not my photo - credit to the original photographer though)

It happened :-)
Many thanks Piece

G-JECK is leased from NAC

Loss of brake pressure when taxying?!!! Well pull the big black and yellow striped handle marked park/emergency brake. That should do the trick.

Anyone know where is was flying to.

Wow. It actually got the 145 off the ground.

Not if there is no pressure in the accumulator after being parked for months. (I mean the 1500psi N2)

It looks like but obviously could be wrong, did it hit the 145 on a stand? My only comment but am aware to leave the facts to the AAIB, I hope they were not delay engine start on taxi. Does not seem prudent on an aircraft as someone else said has not flown in months. Fuel saving would seem irrelevant for a aircraft being repo'd.

Good point. If the checklist had been carried out correctly they could have pumped up the accumulator manually which is situated in the right hand undercarriage bay

Yes, but if the Nitrogen charge is depleted then there will be almost no parking brake available. The N2 charge is 500psi not 1500 psi on the Q400, (my error). A lot of people don't understand how an accumulator works.

Just a thought
Would that be enough damage to write the airframe off and turn it to coke cans ?
​​​​​​They might get more money for it as scrap ?

How much demand is there going to be for Dash 8 aircraft in the next couple of years ? Apart from Flybe, LGW have pretty much shut down

Which one? :}

I think everyone agrees regional travel will come back before long haul. Less consumer demand = less seats needed.
No point flying a half full jet over a short route, more economical to use a TP.
Whilst the Q400 isn't as economical as an ATR its still more economical than a 737 or A320. It will be interesting to see what Austrian, LOT, Olympic and other Dash/mixed fleet airlines choose to use first.

G-JECM which was having an engine change at SOU on 11th/12th departed to Maastricht yesterday.

As predicted, the regionals are filling the gaps https://www.travelweekly.co.uk/artic...st-city-routes
I did hear that a select few ex flybe staff are talking about a likely resurrection of of the airline from potential buyers. If true, very irresponsible and childish to even utter that rumour as it gives false hope to people already in dire circumstances.

... and yet here you are, the only person to post it publicly on this forum. Kettle black?

From the Australian Business Review Newspaper - https://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...3f8bfcc174bedb

If you don't want to pay its below. Bottom line is Cyrus know about the airline business and Peachy is still a director of Connect Airways.

Cyrus rejects fears Virgin Australia could go way of Flybe

Cyrus Capital is still hoping that grounded UK airline Flybe can get back into the air again, providing jobs for many of the 2000 workers who were laid off when it collapsed in March.

Jonathan Peachey was a key player in the consortium formed in 2018, Connect Airways, alongside Sir Richard Branson’s Virgin Atlantic and Irish company Stobart Aviation that took over Flybe early last year.

Based in Exeter in southwest England, with hubs in Manchester and Birmingham, Flybe was the largest independent regional airline in Europe carrying eight million passengers a year between airports in Britain and Europe.

Never financially strong, Flybe was hit hard by the travel slump as a result of the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic.

After failing to get the requested support from the British government, it collapsed in March.

Critics of Cyrus and Sir Richard are pointing to the Flybe example, arguing that it shows the consortium may not follow through on all its promises to invest in Virgin Australia and could walk away from it if the going got tough.

READ MORE:Peachey knows how to engage with people Down Under|Cyrus proposes ‘hybrid’ Virgin|‘Green lanes’ to isolate trans-Tasman bubble
Mr Peachey rejected suggestions that Cyrus’s handling of the Flybe takeover raised questions about what could happen if it took over Virgin Australia.

“It’s definitely not the case that we have abandoned Flybe,” said Mr Peachey, who has been a director of Flybe since February 2019 and has been closely involved with the airline since the Connect takeover.

“I’m hopeful the administration process will enable the business to re-emerge from administration.”

He said Cyrus was still a “key stakeholder in the administration process”.

“We invested as part of a consortium with three shareholders. The shareholders committed over £100m to the business.

“We invested everything that we had committed to invest and an additional sum in the months prior to the business going into administration as a result of the impact of COVID-19.

“We are in regular contact with the administrator and we are doing everything we can to ensure that the business can emerge in some form from administration.

“There’s still a demand for regional connectivity in the UK.

“Cyrus is doing everything it can, along with the other consortium members, to ensure that a business emerges that can rehire the many thousands of employees who were dependent on it.”

Word is that the CAA have put a stop to any further Q400 ferry activity until the incident in Aberdeen is understood and actions to prevent a recurrence are in place.

On the Flybe restart, this is not just idle chatter. There is quite a bit of discussion going on and although I can't find the link right now, there was something floating around from an Australian press source last week where Cyrus Capital had said they wanted Flybe airborne again as they were setting out their credentials as a potential bidder for Virgin Australia. It certainly seems to be more than usual rumours from the cleaners - not that all of them aren't furloughed too at the moment!

Jamie, you beat me to it. Couldn't find it myself.

They're after an interest in another airline - doesn't this fall into the category of "they would say that, wouldn't they?".

Normally I'd agree. But personally I'm not discounting anything right now, especially given my knowledge of how Stobart conversations are progressing in the IOM.

It's an interesting time. Many airlines - if not all of them - are in shrink / reduced growth modes and are now laden with debt. There's going to be a huge surplus of aircraft hitting the market which will drive down prices and damage the asset values of existing carriers on their books, further hindering their ability to raise future capital and possibly pushing them in to bad equity situations with their lenders. Sounds like the perfect time for someone ballsy with deep pockets to come in - be it regional flying or around Europe - if you ask me.

Don't Stobart already have all that - what do they need a new Flybe for?

Isn't Stobart Air an Irish airline based in Dublin, with EI registered Aircraft on an Irish AOC and without a single base in the UK?

also

:ok: - Flybe might have made some sense when it was a going concern, but if the aim is to have a UK based regional airline new Flybe makes no sense when you've already got Stobart Air - much of which is standing idle and likely to be for a while. If you were serious you'd be moving now before your competitors get established on your cherry picked routes, or you'd start buying into them if you really thought there was a profitable market there...

Other than the EI franchise, I find the whole Stobart Group aviation strategy baffling (but what do I know!?!)

We invested everything that we had committed to invest and an additional sum in the months prior to the business going into administration as a result of the impact of COVID-19.
I think someone is suffering from amnesia or is thinking others have forgotten. Flybe did not go into administration as a result of the impact of COVID-19. Additionally, how are all the former company's creditors going to feel about the idea of resurrecting what was a failed concern?