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Hipennine 28th Dec 2017 08:52

Presumably, the platform is on railway land, and therefore owned and operated by Network Rail. Therefore why will it save DTVA £6m?
Perhaps the former airport owners entered into some long term liability agreement with BR to get the station opened in the first place?

JollyTraveller 28th Dec 2017 10:51

I'm guessing that Network Rail aren't willing to cover the full cost of replacing the old bridge and platform when so few passengers use the station / halt.

inOban 28th Dec 2017 11:04

No. For historical reasons the cost would fall on the airport. Peel group still state that their long-term plans involve relocating the station to somewhere more accessible for the airport. The process of actually closing a station are lengthy and it is cheaper to continue a so-called parliamentary service.

mmeman 31st Dec 2017 11:52

Amsterdam
 
Looks like some 'not great' news for the new year - Trying to book flights next year and Amsterdam down to 2 daily Mon-Fri in July and August next year and 1 flight from Amsterdam on a Saturday (mid morning flight) and 1 flight to Amsterdam on a Sunday (mid morning flight).. afternoon flight not bookable Mon-Fri.. maybe just a glitch..

I think Newcastle was 5 last summer and is just 4 flights a day next summer..

Richard Taylor 31st Dec 2017 11:55

Is that not just peak summer holiday cutbacks, when many people in business are away on holidays, therefore less demand for such flights? Happens at other airports too.

SWBKCB 31st Dec 2017 12:13

Looks like a reduction from last summer - there was a n/s, mid morning and mid afternoon on weekdays in August 2017

Robert-Ryan 31st Dec 2017 13:17

AMS is having major slot issues at the moment, they've already sacked off a lot of cargo and have just had to deal with AirBridgeCargo threatening to pull out and Russia banning all Dutch aircraft, perhaps these cutbacks are part of their solution?

N707ZS 31st Dec 2017 13:51

The original Southside at DTVA was supposedly for Amsterdam cargo, now that would be a better solution.

P330 31st Dec 2017 15:15

This has happened at other airports but I have never seen KLM go to 2 a day on week days before. We've always lost a couple of rotations on weekends, but that is it. Yes, the quietest time for business travel but no getting away from it, this is bad news!

highwideandugly 31st Dec 2017 15:30

As always..over the last few years comendable optimism over the airport.
Us miserable beggars have always kept the rose coloured glasses off.

However. We all face an uncertain time,Brexit,Oil prices.et al. and probably more uncertain issues which non of us are aware of?

To me,People will always want a holiday to get away from all of these. ,,out of our control issues...so again...why oh why why Have PEEL decided that DTV. Don’t need a regular holiday flight(s) and the regular income it supports?

JollyTraveller 2nd Jan 2018 11:10

Page 159 show a good overview of the planned Southside development layout and the fencing. Page 153 onwards have some details on types of fencing for the different zones. I wouldn't worry about these kind things to much, Peel have been involved in the ownership of airports since the 1990's and are one of the most diverse companies in the UK with proven track record on delivering on huge projects.
Everything that needs to happen at Durham Tees Valley Airport has already been done at Liverpool airport and Doncaster Sheffield airport. http://www.durhamteesvalleyairport.c...Masterplan.pdf

Harry Wayfarers 2nd Jan 2018 12:14

And at Sheffield City Airport Peel did what?

JollyTraveller 2nd Jan 2018 12:28

That was all part of the plan for the development of an airport for Doncaster Sheffield area. Sheffield City Airport had already failed as an airport long before Peel where giving it as sweetener for delivering the area airport that is capable off taking larger planes etc. Peel don't like to waste money, Sheffield City Airport was closed A.S.A.P once they got involved.

Robert-Ryan 2nd Jan 2018 16:34

Whether or not he's got the reasoning correct I'm not sure but Peel building a proper airport does firmly counteract any conspiracy about closing a limited facility

highwideandugly 3rd Jan 2018 11:47

Never sure if these questions require answers or not..too political for me..

However I am more concerned about routes,staffing and developments to the master plan.
So far this year,not good...KLM et al,still ATC shortages and probably AFS too? And I wonder when the cash will start to flow into the airport from the housing...do PEEL. Get paid up front? Surely they must get something?

fjencl 3rd Jan 2018 11:55

Does eastern airways still have a based aircraft here. If so what type is it and what's it flying daily program.

JollyTraveller 3rd Jan 2018 13:06

No Flybe / Eastern Airways aircraft is currently based at DTVA. Flights are currently being operated from Humberside to Aberdeen via Durham Tees Valley. The aircraft mostly used is the Saab 2000 but the BAe Jetstream 41 is also part schedule but often gets upgraded for Saab 2000.

Flybe / Eastern Airways timetable is currently showing direct flights returning to the Aberdeen - Humberside route from 12th February 2018.

It also shows a based BAe Jetstream 41 operating from Durham Tees Valley Airport for the Aberdeen route with reduced flights: 3 x Flights Thur, 2 x flights M/T/W/F, 1 x flights Sun, (Sunday will continue to operate via Durham Tees Valley using the Aberdeen - Humberside Saab 2000)

What is interesting is it shows the aircraft arriving back at Durham Tees Valley at 09:25 on Mondays and Wednesdays but no flight until 17:00 Mondays and 17:15 Wednesdays, It's also showing as arriving back on Fridays at 19:45 which means it's based at Durham Tees Valley over the weekend. That mean the Durham Tees Valley Flybe / Eastern Airways crew base will have lot of down time.

Hopefully Flybe / Eastern Airways are planning to add something new to fill up the gaps in they Durham Tees Valley crew base time.

fjencl 3rd Jan 2018 13:14

Cheers for that , very informative.

No-More-Bullschit 3rd Jan 2018 19:03

I'm sure the company could answer, I don't think they're on here though

SWBKCB 4th Jan 2018 14:43

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