Believe it when I see it..but Carlisle flights semi announced to 3 destinations not served from here!
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Answered your own question there, the air ambulance should take up one of the plots at the airport. The planned hangar at Urlay Nook looks as if its big enough for more than one helicopter.
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Although the heading on the webpage says" land for sale", can't actually see any mention of land being for sale in the brochure.
The objection to the helicopter base looks perfectly reasonable (and not something you'd bother with if flying was expected to stop! that's what the planning process is for :) |
Yes the new air ambulance location should definitely be opposed by Peel, you don't really want helicopter activity that close to final approach unless they are required to call tower for takeoff clearance despite not being on the airport site.
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One off holidays to Malta (25/05/18) and Madeira (16/11/18) available on the Super Breaks website (in addition to Seville - no sign of GIB yet)
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Movements website reporting a Verona as well
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Ah, that one's from Durham Airport - the other two are from Durham Tees Valley! :ok:
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Excellent news! [sarcastic] If a few one-off holiday charters works well for them and could be a sign of good things to come in the future, maybe they could see if they can attract something a bit more regular? Maybe Thomson or someone like that?[/sarcastic]
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a few one-off holiday charters + £
Maybe Thomson or someone like that -£ [/simple] |
Yes, excluding the commercial terms between the airline and the airport (although I guess we can assume that TUI & Thomas Cook will be able to get better deals than most other tour operators/airlines), I thought the issue was the volume of passengers on each flight.
The airport is currently geared around flights of typically 60 people a time flying to Amsterdam (and less to Aberdeen). The passenger traffic is also spread out throughout the day focused on business people who dont bring huge amounts of luggage and are not so price sensitive. A TUI 738 takes 189 pax and is a far bigger larger logistical challenge as it causes a one time spike in demand for the airport's services (check in, security, baggage handling, catering etc). A couple of flights a week from an airline paying little-or-nothing in landing fees probably causes more trouble than it is worth. Unfortunately, unless MME can get an airline to commit to a decent schedule or a based aircraft, small scale charters and business routes are probably the only route to go down. |
They did two 738s full in one go on Saturday. Presume no hold luggage as they were day trips to see father Christmas, possibly kids prams at the most in the hold.
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Originally Posted by Robert-Ryan
(Post 9992652)
Yes the new air ambulance location should definitely be opposed by Peel, you don't really want helicopter activity that close to final approach unless they are required to call tower for takeoff clearance despite not being on the airport site.
I suspect the Peel objection is just an attempt to scupper the proposed new base so they have to move back on to Peel-owned land. |
a few one-off holiday charters + £ Maybe Thomson or someone like that -£ [/simple] A TUI 738 takes 189 pax and is a far bigger larger logistical challenge as it causes a one time spike in demand for the airport's services (check in, security, baggage handling, catering etc). A couple of flights a week from an airline paying little-or-nothing in landing fees probably causes more trouble than it is worth. Unfortunately, unless MME can get an airline to commit to a decent schedule or a based aircraft, small scale charters and business routes are probably the only route to go down. |
Superbreak
According to the Gazette, there will be 7 superbreak destinations:
Florence Gibraltar Iceland Seville Malta Madeira Verona Sounds good! |
If they all operate!! Web site is awful to book on!!
It’s a good swop though for Newmarket and Omega Holiday flights over the last couple of years ,,even though probably evens passenger wise? Worried about Eastern..other links are pretty ominous... again though..devils advocate..Loganair good swop?? |
Newmarket and Omega Holiday, think at least one of these is operating through KLM.
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly
(Post 9994485)
If they all operate!! Web site is awful to book on!!
Error The page you requested was not found. |
Speaking of costs, CAA stats show an average of 5 pax per flight using the Norwich route.
I know it's a tag-on to the ABZ flight, but how is it economical to have (I assume) full security and handling in place for so few people? It's not even as though there are other flights anywhere near the same time to spread the cost. |
Originally Posted by P330
(Post 9994483)
According to the Gazette, there will be 7 superbreak destinations:
Florence Gibraltar Iceland Seville Malta Madeira Verona Sounds good! I'm a slight bit jealous- I would love to fly to and visit Iceland . But it means either 6 hours to Belfast once on the mainland or approx 3 to Dublin .. |
Originally Posted by NorthSouth
(Post 9994160)
It's controlled airspace! Of course they'd need DTVA ATC clearance for any movement in and out of there. So if something was on final approach the ambulance patient would just have to wait.
I suspect the Peel objection is just an attempt to scupper the proposed new base so they have to move back on to Peel-owned land. If imagine an order to turn away and go around , E.g. KLM1499 ( Whatever) turn right 130 climb 3000 etc .. Emergency priority? Police chopper may have to wait but for life and limb. Besides I thought they had bases at other Airports? Leeds? Or is it now the former Sheffield airport?. |
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