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AerRyan 25th Sep 2018 01:33

Manchester at 5pw next Summer, the median value of this summer (ran at 4pw and then 6pw). Liverpool and Bristol are 'under review' normally meaning bye bye. Aer Lingus have not loaded sun routes, however there are rumours that EI are trying to locate a number of 737-400's from ASL, one of which would be based at SNN as an additional aircraft to operate a variety of sun routes. This is all subject to aircraft availability.

fivejuliet 2nd Oct 2018 12:01

Ryanair adding Ibiza, 2pw

Dreamliner_01 10th Oct 2018 22:12

Hearing Bristol and Liverpool both gone for next summer - not on sale and looks like everything else pretty much loaded - Shame as used the Bristol service couple of times was handy but loads were around 60-65% both times in peak season - in fairness timings and days of week were rubbish

Dreamliner_01 11th Oct 2018 18:47

Agree paul I wonder is the Ibiza service in place of Bristol / Liverpool - I can’t see Aer Lingus pulling two routes like this - would be huge blow to lose that much capacity for 2019 and take away all the positives from recent announcements - hard to see how Knock can make Liverpool and Bristol work the last number of years and Shannon can’t

snn20 11th Oct 2018 21:23

Bristol and Liverpool seats were flogged at cheap prices to try and fill seats, not exactly profitable

brian_dromey 12th Oct 2018 10:02

The frequency and timings at Cork for the SNN service are also poor, fares can be staggeringly cheap. How its lasted this long I don't understand. I suppose the 737-800 is just too big to be optimal for routes from Irish regional airports to UK regional airports.

840 12th Oct 2018 10:27

I understand what you are saying considering that, assuming these are gone, the only route operated from Munster to a UK airport outside London in a 737/A320 will be Cork's Liverpool service, which has itself been scaled back in recent years.

But that opens the question of what Knock is doing right. Despite a more limited catchment and not being near Ireland's big tourist draws around Kerry and Clare, it will still have three 737 operated UK regional services.

snn20 12th Oct 2018 10:42

BRS and LPL have worked from SNN before...Poor timings coupled with how late the flights were put on sale didnt help one bit.

brian_dromey 12th Oct 2018 14:16


Originally Posted by 840 (Post 10271952)
But that opens the question of what Knock is doing right. Despite a more limited catchment and not being near Ireland's big tourist draws around Kerry and Clare, it will still have three 737 operated UK regional services.

Its an interesting question. I would guess the more frequent flights from ORK/DUB and improved road transport to both DUB and ORK draw passengers away from poorly timed flights, even at very cheap fares?

Dreamliner_01 15th Oct 2018 21:48

There’s no doubt knock benefits from a good schedule which in case of Liverpool is perfectly timed for football traffic - the west / north west of Ireland has a major diaspora element in the north of England which is s distinct advantage over Shannon ( note knock also has a daily Manchester service with Flybe) - Bristol service has a good leisure timed schedule and does well during summer season - interesting to see how does during winter would think marginal - at same time shame to see them lost at Shannon should be plenty big enough market for both airports to sustain services

Northoltway 19th Oct 2018 15:11

Faro &Malaga both now bookable for S19 with AL.

Dreamliner_01 19th Oct 2018 22:55

That’s positive hopefully Bristol and Liverpool follow with Ryanair 👍

AerRyan 22nd Oct 2018 11:14


Originally Posted by Dreamliner_01 (Post 10287432)
That’s positive hopefully Bristol and Liverpool follow with Ryanair 👍

Unlikely at this stage.

To be honest it seems like Ryanair never had an interest in seriously running these services, more like they did it to avail of cheaper fees at Shannon across the board.

snn20 22nd Oct 2018 16:02

New routes were only what fell off the table with the new 5 year deal with SNN management. Same as the one in 2013 which resulted in all of those “new” routes at the time being discontinued eventually

Dreamliner_01 19th Nov 2018 21:27

Good news but terrible schedule flight on Saturday night at 21:50! No chance for a weekend break even !!

snn20 20th Nov 2018 07:26

EMA 2x weekly Monday and Friday beginning 5th April

Northoltway 20th Nov 2018 10:00


Originally Posted by snn20 (Post 10315279)
EMA 2x weekly Monday and Friday beginning 5th April

good times for weekend breaks. Hope it doesn’t do harm to Bhx service with Ei

Dreamliner_01 20th Nov 2018 20:28

21:09 on Friday nights and departs at 06:40 on a Monday from EMA / crazy looking schedule but nice to get a new route

cloudier 27th Dec 2018 20:37


Originally Posted by Paul015 (Post 10345356)
Looks like the Helvetic to Zurich is gone for 2019. I wonder is it due to the increase on the Swiss cork-Geneva route.

Swiss operate Zurich Cork not Geneva

AerRyan 28th Dec 2018 20:43

It was all agency booking, next to nobody booked the flight only.

Perhaps it had some input, but in reality it doesn't matter much. I wouldn't put much thought into why exactly it's no longer available.


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