Oops sorry I just found out today and decided to post it but my mistake sorry
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REU doing fairly good. PHL strong inbound however a mixed bag outbound
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No major change and no concrete routes. Anything concrete would be announced, and anything far off would certainly not be in the public domain. Occasionally something near announcement would be released, but that's at discretion.
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Air canada doing OK, inaugural was good both ways, monday and today were 50-60%... tomorrows YYZ-SNN looking fairly full though from the seat map
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Bristol and Liverpool on the other-hand are quite a different story
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I’m heading of proposed cuts to set Lingus regional services from both cork and Shannon for winter - anyone hear anything similar ? |
where did you hear this?
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A mere 46 on tonights LPL-SNN, loadings havent been great ever since the route started
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Originally Posted by Dreamliner_01
(Post 10168772)
I’m heading of proposed cuts to set Lingus regional services from both cork and Shannon for winter - anyone hear anything similar ? |
Originally Posted by 840
(Post 10170332)
I can't say I've heard it, but it wouldn't be tremendously surprising. We know Cork-Newcastle is gone. Drop the third rotation from Cork to Manchester on those days where there is one and cut Shannon operations where it's operated as a W from Cork (or alternatively operate them as a W from Dublin) and there's no need for a third aircraft in Cork. It could be a big saving for not too much pain.
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Shannon Edinburgh cut to five per week compared to six per week last winter and I’m hearing planned cuts on Birmingham could be following soon / midweek travel very soft during winter cited - not sure if will happen but heard It from couple of pilots the routes |
Originally Posted by 840
(Post 10170332)
I can't say I've heard it, but it wouldn't be tremendously surprising. We know Cork-Newcastle is gone. Drop the third rotation from Cork to Manchester on those days where there is one and cut Shannon operations where it's operated as a W from Cork (or alternatively operate them as a W from Dublin) and there's no need for a third aircraft in Cork. It could be a big saving for not too much pain.
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SNN-EDI 4x weekly from 31st october. MON,THU,FRI,SUN.
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Originally Posted by Paul015
(Post 10171650)
Birmingham also reduced to 6 weekly, no Saturday flight. Any word on how Ryanair are doing this summer, it’ll be a quiet winter for U.K. flights this year with these reductions, particularly Wednesday’s with only one stansted, heathrow, Birmingham and Manchester operating. Plus the loss of United in November also... at least there’s additional Norwegians and the extra jfk for the spring. Ryanairs new routes are going ok, REU is doing excellent, BRS too. Room for improvement in regard to LPL |
Air Canada is doing extremely well. Expect a full season and an increase in frequency next year.
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How well are loadings doing percent wise?
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"Shannon Airport growth continues to soar as half year figures take off"
https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/h...ke-flight.html |
CAA UK STATS
April 2017 2018 % London (LHR) - 23,039 | 22,083 -4 London (STN) - 17,423 | 17,112 -4 London (LGW) - 10,169 | 10,249 +1 Manchester (MAN) - 5,821 | 6,115 +5 Birmingham (BHX) - 3,316 | 3,435 +4 Edinburgh (EDI) - 2,397 | 2,508 +5 May 2017 2018 % London (LHR) - 23,782 | 24,453 +3 London (STN) - 16,447 | 16,631 +1 London (LGW) - - - - Manchester (MAN) - 5,541 | 6,334 +14 Birmingham (BHX) - 3,249 | 3,295 +1 Edinburgh (EDI) - 2,714 | 2,852 +5 Bristol (BRS) - NEW | 1,339 - Liverpool (LPL) - NEW | 1,119 - Stats for May are provisional. BRS and LPL began near the end of May. BRS had a 70% LF (1,339/1,890), LPL was 49% (1,119/2,269) |
If those load factors don’t improve dramatically on Bristol and Liverpool they certainly won’t last long - think Bristol is sustainable but Liverpool was always a challenge given capacity on Manchester and a well established service up the road in Knock - probably shows why they haven’t extended them for winter |
Ryanair has been operating Bristol-Knock for ten years, mainly as a summer route (3/4weekly) although it began as year-round. Interestingly, it will operate through the coming winter for the first time for many years at 3 x weekly. The early summer load factors on BRS-NOC have been similar to that on BRS-SNN for the first month of that route (part month to be precise) this year. For example, in May of this year BRS-NOC load factor was just under 73%, similar in 2017, 69% in 2016 and 72% in 2015. So the new BRS-SNN route does not appear to have impacted negatively on BRS-NOC, albeit less than a month's operation is a very small sample of course.
The BRS-NOC load factors typically improve significantly as the summer progresses each year so hopefully the same will apply to BRS-SNN. As always, yields are the important figure. |
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