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chaps1954 1st Jul 2018 10:39

Yes but we need more tracks/paths into Manchester as they just can`t cope and that is why the local trains south of Manchester are so crap, 4 tracks south of Stockport on both Stoke and Crewe lines would make life a lot better but even then Piccadilly to Stockport needs extra lines and as for platforms 13/14 Therefor HS2 will help as 3 tains an hour to London will be taken off the creaking section to Stoke/Crewe.

MANFOD 1st Jul 2018 13:31

With the furore a complete cancellation of Manchester-Leeds electrification would cause, even among our placid MPs in the North, surely even this Transport Secretary wouldn't be so stupid to take such action. .... Oh, I don't know though!

Mr A Tis 1st Jul 2018 16:53

Manchester Airport please note ( already happening)
https://www.nats.aero/news/airport-o...tm_medium=NATS

canberra97 1st Jul 2018 17:38


Originally Posted by Council Van (Post 10185673)
Plenty of money for London of course. How much did cross rail cost and are they not planning a North South cross rail?. The spend per head on rail in London is something like 5 time that in the rest of the Country if not more.

We live in a London Centric controlled dump of a Country.

Better to scrap HS2, the whole network could be electrified with that waist of money.

2nd class citizens in our own Country

Regarding your comment about a North-South Crossrail, there is already a North-South Crossrail called THAMESLINK connecting Gatwick and Luton, this link was heavily invested a few years ago.

pwalhx 1st Jul 2018 17:59


Originally Posted by canberra97 (Post 10185955)


Regarding your comment about a North-South Crossrail, there is already a North-South Crossrail called THAMESLINK connecting Gatwick and Luton, this link was heavily invested a few years ago.

Crossrail 3’ could come about thanks to new plans for Transport for London (TfL) to take over suburban rail services in Greater London, according to the peer heading the National Infrastructure Commission (NIC) investigation into Crossrail 2.
In an appearance before the London Assembly Transport Committee, NIC chair Lord Andrew Adonis said he thought the TfL takeover was as significant as the planned railway from the south to the north-east of London, which could be completed by 2030.

bycrewlgw 1st Jul 2018 18:26


Originally Posted by canberra97 (Post 10185955)


Regarding your comment about a North-South Crossrail, there is already a North-South Crossrail called THAMESLINK connecting Gatwick and Luton, this link was heavily invested a few years ago.

Thameslink isn’t crossrail. There’s another planned to run between Chelsea and The north of London

Navpi 1st Jul 2018 20:01

As Capt Mainwaring would say.....

I sometimes think I'm surrounded by idiots.

In this case we have a complete bunch of prats running transport.

The level of incompetence has been taken to stratospheric levels of incompetence.

Don't hold your breath for the Hs2 station.

FFMAN 1st Jul 2018 22:35


Originally Posted by Curious Pax (Post 10185549)
FWIW (not a lot I know!) breezed through security just now. In through the turnstiles at 0710, out the other side before 0725.



I was somewhat later than you but my experience was similar although I found the staff quite cheerful tbf (maybe because they weren't inundated). I had priority lane but the normal queue was almost non-existent too.

If we can turn our attention away from the rail industry for a short while, does anyone know what was going on with the BA Shuttle that was parked down past (or so it seemed) the far holding point for 05L (the one for full length departures) mid-late morning? It was some distance away but it almost looked like it was on the grass (!!) It was facing south west with a load of ops / security type vehicles around it. Departures, including ours, were entering the runway at the previous intersection as a result, which is one of the reasons I noticed it.

Curious Pax 2nd Jul 2018 02:50

Reported elsewhere that the BA had a nosewheel issue that ended with pax deplaning onto buses on the taxiway. We also entered and backtracked as a result- an impressively tight 180 in an A330.

FFMAN 2nd Jul 2018 08:53

Thanks CP, makes sense.
Hope the trip's going well

DP. 3rd Jul 2018 07:11


Originally Posted by LAX_LHR (Post 10184506)
All of the Airport staff will rejoice to know staff east is closing as a staff car park and JetParks 1 becoming a staff car park starting 23rd July.

Not before time either. It's just a shame it's taken them this long to finally concede this. If it's any consolation to the numerous disgruntled pax who frequent this thread, the staff are treated with pretty much the same attitude by management.

Scottie Dog 3rd Jul 2018 09:45


Originally Posted by Council Van (Post 10187110)

Is this not a temporary measure until the new road is complete with a return to Staff East next year?

That is what I seem to recall reading in the update my company sent us.

I would check but have deleted the email.

Correct, I believe the date is until 31st October subject to confirmation.

Scottie Dog 3rd Jul 2018 13:47

May 2018 statistical review

https://image.ibb.co/hcaQHJ/Screensh...42151_Word.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/c0MMrd/Screensh...42205_Word.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/heuKcJ/Screensh...42215_Word.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/ditjBd/Screensh...42225_Word.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/n0zfjy/Screensh...42233_Word.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/b6ePBd/Screensh...42241_Word.jpg

Scottie Dog 3rd Jul 2018 19:02

Change of dual runway operating hours
 
Just a reminder that runway operating hours change from 9th July:-

Monday to Friday (inclusive)
26th March-8th July 2018
Dual runway operations will be in operation between
06:30hrs - 10:30hrs and 13:00hrs – 20:00hrs
9th July 2018-28th October 2018
Dual runway operations will be in operation between
06:15hrs - 20:00hrs
Saturday
26th March-8th July 2018
Dual runway operations will be in operation between
06:30hrs - 10:30hrs and 13:00hrs – 16:00hrs
9th July 2018-28th October 2018
Dual runway operations will be in operation between
06:15hrs – 16:00hrs

Sunday
26th March-8th July 2018
Dual runway operations will be in operation between
13:00hrs - 17:00hrs
9th July 2018-28th October 2018
Dual runway operations will be in operation between
06:15hrs – 09:30hrs and 13:00hrs- 20:00hrs.
Runway 05L/23R will be in operation as a single runway at all other times

Suzeman 3rd Jul 2018 19:53

Security
 
This may go some way to explain the comments made earlier re security

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...sters-14862205

Mr A Tis 3rd Jul 2018 22:29



It comes as government figures revealed Manchester Airport passengers were the ‘unhappiest in the country’ with their security experience last year.

If they were bottom of the league last year then 2018 isn’t going to show any improvement

Ex Cargo Clown 4th Jul 2018 13:37

Remember the good old days when you'd just breeze through..... Now security are nothing more than failed ASDA security staff

virginblue 4th Jul 2018 13:45

Talking about security - how is the setup if I am connecting domestic > domestic on BE at Manchester? I have done conncetions on BE international > domestic and had to go climb many stairs up and down and go through the whole security drama. Is it the same woth a donmestic arrivalor is a transfer somewhat more straightforward?

lfc84 4th Jul 2018 20:35

if i recall correctly i was able to remain air side in T3 when i did it

LAX_LHR 4th Jul 2018 20:37

Norwegian add a 3rd weekly Stavanger flight starting 31st October. New flight on a Wednesday using same times and flight numbers as the Mon/Fri flight. Confirmed and bookable.

ManchesterUK 4th Jul 2018 21:30

Hello - thanks for posting again the new dual-runway opening times.

Just a quick question. You mention that the new operating times take place from 9th July - 28th October 2018. After 28th October, does this mean that the times will revert back to the original times of 6:30-10:30am, 4-8pm etc?

Many thanks in advance

canberra97 5th Jul 2018 01:58


Originally Posted by Ex Cargo Clown (Post 10188325)
Remember the good old days when you'd just breeze through..... Now security are nothing more than failed ASDA security staff

Remember the good old days when you'd just breeze through.

Do you mean the good old days when aircraft were regularly blown up, when aircraft were regularly hijacked, when aircraft were used to blow up buildings, when aircraft were in danger of shoe bombers!

Oh yes the good old days were definitely a safer time, don't we miss them eh.

LAX_LHR 5th Jul 2018 06:53

RSD travel will run a bi-weekly Marrakesh using Corendon Airlines Europe B737 from Feb 2019, and will also charter a weekly Aegean A320 to Heraklion from 20th October all winter.

Mr A Tis 5th Jul 2018 11:14

Airport announces massive profits : Made on the backs of insufficient staffing, particularly security.

Isn't Manchester Airport the "Ryanair" of airports- where you get a very basic service and then get charged for anything & everything?

Customer experience appears not to be a priority. After all, this is an airport that last summer, thought it perfectly acceptable to close part of an operational main taxiway in favour of car parking.

What happened to their big announcement about investing in the local bus network to reduce congestion ? No, much easier to charge £3-£4 to drop off, create queues at various points and then charge to bypass their own creations. It's win win for the accountants.

If nothing else, Manchester Airport needs to brush up on its image & make some immediate changes to enhance the customer experience whilst we await the magical transformation project (2028??)

chaps1954 5th Jul 2018 11:36

Buses in Manchester are a nightmare as the councils are cutting left right and centre all over the show

Ian

LAX_LHR 5th Jul 2018 11:41

Primera have applied to run EWR and IAD this winter from MAN.

Whilst IAD would be most welcome, I doubt these flights will happen given the multitude of issues PF have had this summer.

RND20 5th Jul 2018 12:27

Interesting, does this mean they wont be returning to BHX next year?

chaps1954 5th Jul 2018 12:28

Strange time to start

PAXboy 5th Jul 2018 13:07

Holidaymaker who left car at airport returns to find 50 extra miles on clock and speeding ticket

zfw 5th Jul 2018 14:18


Originally Posted by LAX_LHR (Post 10189167)
Primera have applied to run EWR and IAD this winter from MAN.

Whilst IAD would be most welcome, I doubt these flights will happen given the multitude of issues PF have had this summer.

You have obviously got access to ACls winter prelim.

Managed to get a look but not a copy heres what i can remember

Cathay A350 900 TO A350 1000 on selected dates.

Aegean to HER this winter

Esy jet 14 based aircraft.

Jet to Mumbai 4 times a week

Spicejet {again} B777 300 starting in Feb to Delhi Daily, with a 1.30 hour turnaround.

Sia extra IAH

United 757 replaced by a B767 300.

And the aforementioned Primera using an A321 presumabaly a A321LR, no dates announced for that yet.

Mostly increases to the rest of the based fleets.

sherburn2LA 5th Jul 2018 14:27

so overall a slightly better experience with the parking than with the airport then

Lee J 5th Jul 2018 17:29

A £100,000 car and the owner is willing to save £20 to £30 from my experience on not choosing official airport parking :sad:

In saying that, I'm finding the M&G a pain in the ass lately - besides the fact it isn't meet and greet, there is more often than not a queue out the reception doors.

Scottie Dog 5th Jul 2018 18:13


Originally Posted by ManchesterUK (Post 10188703)
Hello - thanks for posting again the new dual-runway opening times.

Just a quick question. You mention that the new operating times take place from 9th July - 28th October 2018. After 28th October, does this mean that the times will revert back to the original times of 6:30-10:30am, 4-8pm etc?

Many thanks in advance

As far as I'm aware at the present that is the answer to your question.

If I hear of anything different I'll post it.

Scottie Dog 5th Jul 2018 18:22

Winter 2018/2019 - Fantasy or fact
 
The summer solstice has now been enjoyed and, whilst we possibly suffer from hallucinations brought on by heatstroke, thoughts turn to the darker months (also known as the winter schedule).

According to sources I understand that the following may, or may not happen.:-

Cathay Pacific - increase capacity with an A350-1000 between December & February.

Corendon Airlines Europe - commence a weekly charter to Marrakech. This flight will be shared with Birmingham.

easyJet - based aircraft increase to 14.

Ethiopian Airlines - Addis Ababa 4 per week via Brussels.

Eurowings - up 1 per week on Cologne and Dusseldorf but down 2 on Hamburg.

Finnair - look to be increasing from E190 to A321.

Hainan Airlines - once again a rumour of Guangzhou but this has been heard before!

Jet Airways - already reported as 4 per week to Bombay.

KLM - can Amsterdam sustain an extra flight each day?

Primera Air - Malaga already reported as a non-based flight. How about trans-atlantic? Hopefully not but watch this thread....

Qatar Airways - already reported as increasing to 18 per week and maybe up to 21.

Ryanair - 8 based units.

Singapore Airlines - increase Singapore/Houston by 1 to 6 per week.

Spicejet - now that name rings a bell. Didn't we see it for the Summer schedules? Maybe a Delhi flight but do they have aircraft?

Various other bits and pieces including United possibly upgrading to B763.

Take this all with a pinch of salt and we'll see what materialised over the next few months

ManchesterUK 5th Jul 2018 20:02

RE Scottie Dog - many thanks. Appreciate it :)

Logohu 5th Jul 2018 22:20

Thanks Scottie Dog.
The notable absentee from your rather long list being the elusive Thai - dropped off the radar for the umpteenth time again I assume ??

Navpi 6th Jul 2018 05:42

Interesting list Scottie, the trend is clearly upward.

Is that true of the bread and butter operators like TUI,TCX,RYR etc. Whilst Long haul is very welcome a single based A321 operating 3x a day really ramps up the figures, 3 or 4 of these and you are looking at hefty increases.

in terms of Primera I actually hope they stay at Birmingham as thus far its been an unmitigated shambles, that is UNLESS they arrive at the very point they get the A321LR.

The A321 is ideal for smaller regional airports like BHX and It would be unlucky for Brum if they pull out completely just as the schedule settles down and they actually start getting it right.

Stansted has been marginally better....but only just !
I wonder how Paris is doing?

Re buses , our nutjobs from both Labour and the Tories in Westminster never use a bus so have absolutely zero interest.

I have no support for Corbyn BUT he was actually correct despite being ripped apart by a London based media mafia.

Check their expenses, lots of taxi and first class train and plane fares but no public transport, perish the thought !

Betablockeruk 6th Jul 2018 08:15


Originally Posted by Navpi (Post 10189853)
in terms of Primera I actually hope they stay at Birmingham as thus far its been an unmitigated shambles, that is UNLESS they arrive at the very point they get the A321LR.

The A321 is ideal for smaller regional airports like BHX and It would be unlucky for Brum if they pull out completely just as the schedule settles down and they actually start getting it right.

Stansted has been marginally better....but only just !
I wonder how Paris is doing?

I'm all for planning ahead and the return of IAD would be wonderful, but by last accounts they we delaying the BHX services until S19. Have their priorities changed? Get in there [MAN] before Norwegian perhaps?

LAX_LHR 6th Jul 2018 08:21

I doubt we will se Norwegian long haul from Manchester. The Max seems to have found its niche at Dublin, and the B787 fleet is even more unlikely to be seen at MAN.

Betablockeruk 6th Jul 2018 08:29


Originally Posted by LAX_LHR (Post 10189938)
I doubt we will se Norwegian long haul from Manchester. The Max seems to have found its niche at Dublin, and the B787 fleet is even more unlikely to be seen at MAN.

Ah, Dublin. I wonder what their 4th July infographic would look like compared to this https://mediacentre.manchesterairpor...ster-liam-fox/

Bet MAG don't push out a Winter season TATL infographic..... Chicago?


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