Originally Posted by PDXCWL45
(Post 10468271)
Cardiff Airport calls for APD to be devolved to the Welsh Government.
In his letter to Roger Lewis the First Minister Mark Drakeford said ''It cannot be fair that Wales is remains the only devolved nation in the UK that does not have some control over APD''. https://www.cardiff-airport.com/news...o-be-devolved/ https://www.cardiff-airport.com/uplo...RL%20FEB19.pdf |
It shouldnt be applied to any airline operating aircraft under 100 seats... it just makes it completely unviable... Does the Train also pay anything similar to APD?!
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Originally Posted by shamrock7seal
(Post 10468293)
It shouldnt be applied to any airline operating aircraft under 100 seats... it just makes it completely unviable... Does the Train also pay anything similar to APD?!
That said, the whole premise is wrong. The charge should be applied to the operator, based upon a sliding scale according to the level of CO2 that the operating aircraft emits, and it should apply not only to commercial aircraft but also to executive jets, which based upon passengers carried are way more damaging than, for example, a fully loaded passenger aircraft. |
Originally Posted by Letsflycwl
(Post 10468275)
About time too !!! This needs to be devolved as a priority |
Does the Train also pay anything similar to APD?! Note the Scottish government have opted not to reduce APD siting climate change reasons - do you guys not read the news? The UK government seem set on protecting English airports whether it's to the detriment of Wales or not. |
Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 10468393)
They pay tax on their fuel.
Note the Scottish government have opted not to reduce APD siting climate change reasons - do you guys not read the news? :ugh: |
You miss my point - it was the reason why.
UK government who have stated that they won't devolve it because they want to protect English airports which will always be to the detriment of Wales. Note that APD also isn't devolved in Northern Ireland. |
Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 10468406)
You miss my point - it was the reason why.
When was this? Note that APD also isn't devolved in Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland has long haul APD devolved to it and the chancellor said that the Treasury would investigate whether to devolve short haul APD to Northern Ireland. |
Think APD in NI is still down to central govt rather than a local decision.
Anyway, this might trump any APD discussions Climate change 'may curb growth in UK flying' |
Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 10468680)
Think APD in NI is still down to central govt rather than a local decision.
Anyway, this might trump any APD discussions Climate change 'may curb growth in UK flying' |
for Scotland anyway, hasnt made two hoots of difference whether its devolved or not. The pretence that it was ever going to is a farce. |
Originally Posted by VickersVicount
(Post 10468763)
for Scotland anyway, hasnt made two hoots of difference whether its devolved or not. The pretence that it was ever going to is a farce. |
Swimming against a climate change & environmental national & international tide I`m afraid.
The little Swedish girl & the pink boat have effectively changed the future prospects for aviation. Politicians now require themselves to be seen by the public to be acting as Politicians do. The ramifications of last weeks vote in the House to `declare` an environment & climate emergency will unfortunately be far reaching. Any devolution of APD whilst theoretically possible will be a token gesture impossible to be enacted upon. |
Originally Posted by southside bobby
(Post 10468812)
Any devolution of APD whilst theoretically possible will be a token gesture impossible to be enacted upon. |
Much is rather inward & insular it might appear.
It will be `interesting` if a rising tide can be influenced then. |
Originally Posted by PDXCWL45
(Post 10468766)
So? It's still devolved and if devolved to Wales could make a difference.
Whilst English airports may play ' THE LEVEL PLAYING FIELD ' card, with all the usual protectionished posturing the Welsh government has every right ,within European rules and competition law, to generate additional revenue for its own exchequer by attracting airlines and customers to use CWL. |
Originally Posted by Midland Alpha9
(Post 10468905)
Undoubtedly If the APD is to be devolved to Wales the Welsh government would do something about it given their hard efforts and commitment to get CWL commercially viable again and rightly so. As a country it should be allowed to decide the scale and cost of ADP as part of the the tax devolution powers transferred to the Welsh government in the past twelve months.
Whilst English airports may play ' THE LEVEL PLAYING FIELD ' card, with all the usual protectionished posturing the Welsh government has every right ,within European rules and competition law, to generate additional revenue for its own exchequer by attracting airlines and customers to use CWL. As for the level playing field card, i have always found it interesting that airports the size of Manchester, Birmingham and Bristol see Cardiff as being either a worry or in their league as to lobby so hard against APD being devolved. If you look at CWL's growth lately, it's not effecting any of those airports growth at all and for MAN CWL's numbers are a drop in the ocean. Though of course what they don't want to admit is that the playing field is tipped vastly in their favour and they don't want that to change. |
Primarily a couple of posters here have attempted to raise the real issue affecting all airports now that being one of `climate change` agendas & how they could affect individual dromes`s plans not about the `politics` of Wales.
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CAA Stats March 2019
99,055 passengers used the airport in March up 3.2% on 2018. The rolling year was 1,585,058 up 6.8% on 2018. Atms were 1258 down 0.5% on 2018. Top 10 routes 1. Amsterdam 14,912 +29% 2. Dublin 13,731 +64% 3. Edinburgh 9054 +22% 4. Alicante 7906 +11% 5. Tenerife South 7355 +1% 6. Belfast City 6569 +4% 7. Doha 6106 8. Paris CDG 5063 -37% 9. Malaga 4751 -3% 10. Arrecife 3314 -1% |
Originally Posted by PDXCWL45
(Post 10468924)
The WG has fought for quite a while for APD to be devolved so they would do something, even if it's just cutting it by 25% or 50% or putting it on a sliding scale by the length of the flight.
As for the level playing field card, i have always found it interesting that airports the size of Manchester, Birmingham and Bristol see Cardiff as being either a worry or in their league as to lobby so hard against APD being devolved. If you look at CWL's growth lately, it's not effecting any of those airports growth at all and for MAN CWL's numbers are a drop in the ocean. Though of course what they don't want to admit is that the playing field is tipped vastly in their favour and they don't want that to change. I'm not against devolved powers btw, or indeed Wales setting its APD. But if this was the case, and given the WAG's taxpayer-funded subsidies, surely the scales are being tipped in Cardiff's favour? |
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