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Letsflycwl 22nd Aug 2017 20:38

Cardiff-2
 
Someone suggested earlier that Flybe are going to be doing charters for Summer 2018.....any idea where and for whom ?

Also any new routes planned in the 2nd phase of Summer 2018 routes ?

Finally when are QR releasing their flights ?

Sorry for the bombardment of questions

canberra97 22nd Aug 2017 22:43

I don't think ANYONE knows the answer to your last question if so I am 100% sure it would have been posted by now.

bycrewlgw 5th Sep 2017 20:00

Madrid
 
Anyone know if the madrid flights are back for next year? Don't appear to be in the booking engine yet.

Jerry123 6th Sep 2017 10:25


Originally Posted by bycrewlgw (Post 9883292)
Anyone know if the madrid flights are back for next year? Don't appear to be in the booking engine yet.

Still plenty of time for it to be announced. Hopefully they'll release them soon enough. The LF for July was about 60% with 107 average pax per flight. So not too bad for a new route. I'd be surprised if it didn't get renewed with a full season for next year and hopefully go 3 weekly as well which may well encourage more passengers to use the service.

Welsh Bobby 6th Sep 2017 16:24

CWL - LCY
 
What a shame that this route has been unsustainable.
Used it last week for a family weekend in London. Brilliant- 35 mins in the air and such easy onward travel from LCY. Personally I would never use the train again but alas the take up, especially amongst business bods hasnt materialised. As a Welshman the Welsh Gov should support this rather than CWL- VLY.

Jerry123 6th Sep 2017 18:16

Its a shame a CWL lost the LCY route but at least the Q400 is staying and they've expanded on other routes and the gaps in their schedule for Summer 18 means there could be more to come.

Letsflycwl 6th Sep 2017 19:53

If CWL is keeping the Dash 8 surely they should be announcing what if any new destinations the are going to serve to ensure enough publicity and use for Summer 2018.

Only Phase 1 had been announced and no new destination had been added yet.

Personally I would love to see a French regional route like BOD, LRH or EGC.

Suppose time will tell.

Jerry123 6th Sep 2017 20:11

Depends if they had to wait for a tour operator to confirm a take up of some of the seats or if it's a big airport then slots and handling if they've never flown there say Nice as an example or Split.
With the Dash based i wouldn't rule out say Rennes. BRS has no flights to that area of France and they operate a weekly flight from EXT and there is the Celtic connection between Brittany and Wales so could be a possibility.

Letsflycwl 6th Sep 2017 20:43

Yeah good comment there, I'm expecting a French regional to be one of the routes (if any) as that market is quite under served compared to other airports in the U.K. And the Dash 8 ideal.

I thought the E195's were picking up some charter work for Summer 2018 ?

Jerry123 7th Sep 2017 04:17

I had heard the same about the E195s and there are gaps in their schedule for S18 especially on Saturdays so I guess it's just a case of wait and see what happens but I wouldn't be surprised if it was cruise related.

fanrailuk 13th Sep 2017 07:51

QR flights from CWL to DOH and beyond are on sale now!

Daily B787 (2 class config) Dreamliner service starting Tuesday, 1 May 2018

https://www.cardiff-airport.com/news...-to-the-world/

AirGuru 13th Sep 2017 07:51

Daily B787 to DOH with QR from 1st May 2018.

Severn 13th Sep 2017 08:39

QR at CWL
 
That's very good news for CWL. Hopefully the research has been done and both QR and CWL are confident they'll be able to make this route a success.
In numbers, it will mean 22 Business Class seats and 232 Economy seats to fill, totalling 254 seats a day, and nearly 1,800 a week. Obviously they won't need to fill it to break even and with underbelly cargo, that'll offset any costs too.
Remember, airports make their money from passenger footfall, as well as car parking and other ancillary revinues. At 100% load factor QR is only going to bring 92,710 extra passengers through CWL a year, so let's hope it's the money spent on getting QR in, plus anything to be spent on upgrades and marketing will make up for that.
92,710 seats is the equivalent to another 2-3 Flybe flights per day so although a fantastic airline to have operating out of CWL, I hope it's all beneficial to CWL and Wales as a whole - especially given the talk that the WG may have had a hand in getting QR in.

Letsflycwl 13th Sep 2017 15:40

I imagine there will also be a considerable amount of cargo on the QR flight too given the size of the Dreamliner.

They best get those airbridges revamped and ready for the 1st May too.....

Jerry123 13th Sep 2017 16:19


Originally Posted by Letsflycwl (Post 9890747)
I imagine there will also be a considerable amount of cargo on the QR flight too given the size of the Dreamliner.

They best get those airbridges revamped and ready for the 1st May too.....

The cargo facility also needs expanding as well.
Only really need a new bridge on stand 7 really as that's the only stand with an airbridge that can take widebodies. Replacing 9 and 10 would be pointless as they wouldn't get that much regular use to warrant the cost.

Letsflycwl 13th Sep 2017 18:24

True the end airbridge needs a bit of TLC and revamp for the QR flights.....I very much doubt they will fee stand it using steps for such a prestige route as this.

crewmeal 13th Sep 2017 18:44


That's very good news for CWL
Lets hope it doesn't dilute the BHX loads.

Jerry123 13th Sep 2017 19:01


Originally Posted by Letsflycwl (Post 9890865)
True the end airbridge needs a bit of TLC and revamp for the QR flights.....I very much doubt they will fee stand it using steps for such a prestige route as this.

As far as I know apart from during the Champions League final or when the French rugby 777s have been at the airport all of the widebodied routes CWL has uses the bridge on stand 7 but it can only to the first door of a A330 and 767 and 787. I'd have thought that Qatar would want it to go to the 2nd door so people from economy aren't going through business class so hopefully that means a fully adjustable airbridge will be installed then which can also mean Thomson and Flybe can use it as well.

VickersVicount 13th Sep 2017 19:02

.... cant imagine the CWL spotters will care much about that.
Odd its not a consistent daily departure time.

Jerry123 13th Sep 2017 19:16


Originally Posted by VickersVicount (Post 9890887)
.... cant imagine the CWL spotters will care much about that.
Odd its not a consistent daily departure time.

It's the same for EDI BHX and MAN the times alternate between morning and afternoon departures.

WALES-TAG-TOP 13th Sep 2017 19:24

Oh aye... CANX and delays
 
I have been looking at today's news re. Qatar. An important KLM flight, Cancelled, also, the London city flight, Cancelled? What can business people expect, as they look at the arrivals board today, and see this debarkle?
My colleagues Edinburgh flight has a 3 hour and 20 minute delay. Can someone have the common decency to explain this poor show?

Jerry123 13th Sep 2017 19:27


Originally Posted by WALES-TAG-TOP (Post 9890906)
I have been looking at today's news re. Qatar. An important KLM flight, Cancelled, also, the London city flight, Cancelled? What can business people expect, as they look at the arrivals board today, and see this debarkle?
My colleagues Edinburgh flight has a 3 hour and 20 minute delay. Can someone have the common decency to explain this poor show?

It's called weather. High winds in Amsterdam.

wiggy 13th Sep 2017 19:32

What jerry said..

It is not just Cardiff, where I am sitting elsewhere in the U.K. one look at the departures board at 8PM shows several departing flights still to go and with one hour plus delays...all caused by the high winds across the U.K. and sections of the continent last night and earlier today.

WALES-TAG-TOP 14th Sep 2017 07:28

KLM CANX, again. Shocking. 😳
 
Once again, today's 09.30am arrival is cancelled ? Over the channel, Bristols is due to land at 08.43am? So no Michael Fish observations about weather. Where is Cardiffs plane? Or are there not enough pax......

caaardiff 14th Sep 2017 07:43

Bristol had 2 cancelled KLM flights yesterday. In total KLM cancelled over 150 yesterday. Maybe instead of the arrogant postings on here you should contact KLM if it means that much to you.

Harry Wayfarers 14th Sep 2017 08:06


Originally Posted by WALES-TAG-TOP (Post 9891275)
Once again, today's 09.30am arrival is cancelled ? Over the channel, Bristols is due to land at 08.43am? So no Michael Fish observations about weather. Where is Cardiffs plane? Or are there not enough pax......

Yes, truly SHOCKING that a flight should be cancelled, have you contacted your local MP regarding this outrage yet?

sinbad73 14th Sep 2017 08:50


Originally Posted by caaardiff (Post 9891287)
Bristol had 2 cancelled KLM flights yesterday. In total KLM cancelled over 150 yesterday. Maybe instead of the arrogant postings on here you should contact KLM if it means that much to you.

KLM cancellations due Storm Aileen

Flights between Newcastle and Amsterdam cancelled after high winds hit Netherlands - Chronicle Live

heading 125 15th Sep 2017 09:51

W-T-T. I can tell you it's much better being on the ground wishing you were in the air than being in the air wishing you were on the ground. In those wind conditions the control column and throttles are moved like they are on drugs just to keep the aircraft on the ILS and the landing ....well

WALES-TAG-TOP 15th Sep 2017 14:35

Disagree
 

Originally Posted by caaardiff (Post 9891287)
Bristol had 2 cancelled KLM flights yesterday. In total KLM cancelled over 150 yesterday. Maybe instead of the arrogant postings on here you should contact KLM if it means that much to you.

I disagree Cardif two, perhaps you should go on a F.O.D. Mission, before His Excellency arrives....

Letsflycwl 20th Sep 2017 16:29

Belfast City goes double daily Mon-Fri from Winter 2017....nice increase, surprised its taken this long in reality.

Thats going to be our based Dash 8 then......whats going to be added in between these sectors ? Any idea ?

Jerry123 20th Sep 2017 19:17


Originally Posted by Letsflycwl (Post 9898219)
Belfast City goes double daily Mon-Fri from Winter 2017....nice increase, surprised its taken this long in reality.

Thats going to be our based Dash 8 then......whats going to be added in between these sectors ? Any idea ?

The Dash will do DUB GLA ORK/JER BHD Monday to Friday then on Saturday DUB EDI in the morning looks parked in the afternoon.
Sunday DUB in the morning then ORK and GLA in the afternoon/evening.

Letsflycwl 20th Sep 2017 19:27

So appears there is nothing new for Winter 2017-2018 for the E195’s ?

Jerry123 20th Sep 2017 19:51


Originally Posted by Letsflycwl (Post 9898422)
So appears there is nothing new for Winter 2017-2018 for the E195’s ?

Apart from operating the morning BHD flight nope. It looks like they'll be parked during any gaps which is really only during parts in late November and late January when the Faro flight gets dropped in certain weeks. Unless there are charters I don't know about.
There will be extra flights for the Six nations as well for the Scotland Ireland and French games.

Letsflycwl 20th Sep 2017 20:56

Yeah im sure they are bound to pick up some Rugby charters for the Six Nations.

I suppose next summer may show some extra flights as its previously been mentioned that charter flights may be done too !! I know Thomson/TUI are mooted to be reoffering VRN next year on BE aircraft.

Jerry123 21st Sep 2017 07:54


Originally Posted by Letsflycwl (Post 9898512)
Yeah im sure they are bound to pick up some Rugby charters for the Six Nations.

I suppose next summer may show some extra flights as its previously been mentioned that charter flights may be done too !! I know Thomson/TUI are mooted to be reoffering VRN next year on BE aircraft.

Thomson will be selling Lakes packages for June 2018 using Flybe's flights to Verona. Hopefully if Flybe look at other destinations in the future then Thomson will use them as that's the only way i can see anything new or returned routes from TOM with the exception of say Egypt.
Thomas Cook are offering Thailand packages on Qatar's flights from May onwards as well.

Jerry123 21st Sep 2017 17:33

Thomas Cook is bringing back Antalya for summer 2018. Weekly flight on a Friday May to October on a Bristol based A321.

Letsflycwl 21st Sep 2017 17:51

Thats some more good news for CWL for Summer 2018 then, be even better if Thomas Cook base the A321 instead of the leased A320

Also looks like DLM is going twice weekly too for Summer 2018

bycrewlgw 25th Sep 2017 08:14

T3 Routes
 
I see that BE are now marketing VLY, NCL and ABZ from Cardiff. Fares available through BE website following on from the franchise agreement. All flights still operated by T3. No connections from VLY via CWL yet but wonder if they will start at some point?

Jerry123 25th Sep 2017 21:18

There are some 1 stop options on sale from VLY via CWL on Skyscanner but they do have some long waits and I'd imagine the pax would have to recheck their luggage.

BAladdy 25th Sep 2017 23:14


Originally Posted by bycrewlgw (Post 9903135)
I see that BE are now marketing VLY, NCL and ABZ from Cardiff. Fares available through BE website following on from the franchise agreement. All flights still operated by T3. No connections from VLY via CWL yet but wonder if they will start at some point?

Just noticed that VLY flights are only bookable until 23MAR18. Have T3 lost the contract to operate this service?

All other T3 operated routes (apart from ABZ-LSI) are currently available to book until JUN18.


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