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Originally Posted by PDXCWL45
(Post 10199559)
last week i think it said
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Cardiff Airport's Masterplan has been launched today.
https://www.cardiff-airport.com/news/2018/07/18/our-vision-for-2040/ |
Flybe have released their first phase of spring/summer 2019. I've had a quick look and at the moment Belfast City looks unchanged with the exception of no flights onsale on Saturdays so 11 weekly at the moment, Dublin is 14 weekly, Cork 2 weekly, Faro 4 weekly, Glasgow 5 weekly, Jersey 2 weekly, Milan 2 weekly, Paris 10 weekly, Rome 2 weekly so no change with them, Edinburgh has gone up to 17 weekly with extra flights on Mondays, Wednesdays, Thursdays and Fridays. At the moment Dusseldorf, Berlin, Munich, Verona and Venice aren't onsale but this is only their first release.
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Originally Posted by PDXCWL45
(Post 10200355)
Flybe have released their first phase of spring/summer 2019. I've had a quick look and at the moment Belfast City looks unchanged with the exception of no flights onsale on Saturdays so 11 weekly at the moment, Dublin is 14 weekly, Cork 2 weekly, Faro 4 weekly, Glasgow 5 weekly, Jersey 2 weekly, Milan 2 weekly, Paris 10 weekly, Rome 2 weekly so no change with them, Edinburgh has gone up to 17 weekly with extra flights on Mondays, Wednesdays, Thursdays and Fridays. At the moment Dusseldorf, Berlin, Munich, Verona and Venice aren't onsale but this is only their first release.
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Originally Posted by bycrewlgw
(Post 10200436)
lets see if this 4th a/c comes |
Cardiff is expecting it's busiest summer holiday season in a decade with 296,000 people expected to jet off on holiday over the next 6 weeks.
The top 10 most popular routes are Palma Majorca, with TUI, Thomas Cook and Vueling Amsterdam, with KLM Doha, with Qatar Airways Alicante, with TUI and Vueling Malaga, with TUI and Vueling Edinburgh, with Flybe Dublin, with Flybe Faro, with Flybe, TUI and Ryanair Tenerife, with TUI, Thomas Cook and Ryanair Dalaman, with TUI and Thomas Cook https://www.cardiff-airport.com/new...ng-busiest-summer-holiday-season-in-a-decade/ |
Originally Posted by Callum Paterson
(Post 10199163)
Emirates are not subsidised out of Newcastle. I believe Qatar are "heavily" subsidised by the Welsh government.
The comments in the aforementioned article backup exactly what I heard from QR UK sales staff around a month ago. They are very pleased with all their UK routes, apart from CWL. This route is very much under the microscope and as the old saying goes... use it or lose it! |
Well according to the airport the route is now in the top 3 of most popular routes and if they got that from July figures so far and it's ranked above Alicante and Malaga then the route may well see more than 10,000 passengers on it in July but we'll not know for certain until the July CAA stats come out.
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with an almost daily widebody flooding with seats it would not be difficult even half full to trump low cost to Benidorm. Airport promo holiday announcements are just that, promos and may bear no resemblemce to formal numbers As you say, wait for CAA stats. If not going good guns high summer when can it. |
Originally Posted by PDXCWL45
(Post 10199009)
A technicality? What he doesn't say is that the route isn't making a profit. For all we know it's making a profit just not as much as was expected and maybe the expectation was set too high?
As for the fares. Again we don't know the cost structure so just because a fare is low compared to another airport doesn't mean the yeild is low. Airports like Heahtrow and Manchester will have higher charges than an airport like Cardiff. As for subsidy again you are assuming there is a subsidy. And as for European capitals Cardiff has routes to 7 if you count Edinburgh and Belfast as European capitals 5 if you don't and hopefully will gain more in the years to come. And as for lack of Orlando and Caribbean (there are flights in the winter) so what? Just because Cardiff doesn't have these then what it shouldn't have Doha? Look back at the posts on this thread and you'll find a lot of negativity towards this airport especially considering the Doha route but people are entiltled to their opinions as it's a free country and we all have the right to free speech. I don't know why people are banging on about subsidies all airports in the UK and Europe, (with the exception of LHR) dish out ' marketing incentives ' for start up routes no different here in Cardiff. This is the time to grab the headlines as it is Farnborough week and His Excellency will smartly use any opportunity! CWL is an absolute pleasure to fly out of compared to the 'Cattle Market 'along the M4, spinning 30 times around the London TMA before touchdown, Heaven https://www.pprune.org/images/infopop/icons/icon14.gif |
Originally Posted by Callum Paterson
(Post 10199163)
Emirates are not subsidised out of Newcastle. I believe Qatar are "heavily" subsidised by the Welsh government.
The comments in the aforementioned article backup exactly what I heard from QR UK sales staff around a month ago. They are very pleased with all their UK routes, apart from CWL. This route is very much under the microscope and as the old saying goes... use it or lose it! |
Originally Posted by Callum Paterson
(Post 10199163)
Emirates are not subsidised out of Newcastle. I believe Qatar are "heavily" subsidised by the Welsh government.
The comments in the aforementioned article backup exactly what I heard from QR UK sales staff around a month ago. They are very pleased with all their UK routes, apart from CWL. This route is very much under the microscope and as the old saying goes... use it or lose it! |
Quite clearly the Cardiff fanboys are upset that their only long haul route is failing so badly, but to personally attack people over a bloody air route is simply pathetic. Go outside and get a life. Sad, sad individuals.
Some on here will need to be put on suicide watch when this route gets dropped. |
Originally Posted by Callum Paterson
(Post 10203119)
Quite clearly the Cardiff fanboys are upset that their only long haul route is failing so badly, but to personally attack people over a bloody air route is simply pathetic. Go outside and get a life. Sad, sad individuals.
Some on here will need to be put on suicide watch when this route gets dropped. It's only been in operation for 3 months yet already people are predicting doom and gloom! And this 'fanboy' would be disappointed yes but not that disappointed! |
Originally Posted by Callum Paterson
(Post 10203119)
Quite clearly the Cardiff fanboys are upset that their only long haul route is failing so badly, but to personally attack people over a bloody air route is simply pathetic. Go outside and get a life. Sad, sad individuals.
Some on here will need to be put on suicide watch when this route gets dropped. |
Originally Posted by bycrewlgw
(Post 10203224)
lol. Pot and kettle spring to mind... Centre cities |
Originally Posted by Centre cities
(Post 10204814)
With the Welsh Government apparently paying Qatar 1 million per year for the first 2 years (extendable) I think it is safe for a bit.
Centre cities |
Originally Posted by Centre cities
(Post 10204814)
With the Welsh Government apparently paying Qatar 1 million per year for the first 2 years (extendable) I think it is safe for a bit.
Centre cities |
On BBC Wales website, it works out at just over £5.00 per seat inbound and outbound. If the Welsh Assembly are happy to fund this, then I am happy to carry on paying my taxes , not that I have any choice.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-44810051
The dosh is match funding between the Welsh government and Qatar to promote Wales. Renewable for a further year. Qatar are continuing to move into secondary airports. I see that they are planning on Gothenburg. |
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