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NorthEasterner 13th Oct 2017 13:03

Swissport ticket desk may be able to help. But most cases they are limited to what they can do and redirect everyone to the airline’s website.

GrahamK 13th Oct 2017 13:58

ash666, could it be an aircraft type change?

What flight are you on?

ash666 13th Oct 2017 16:06

I'm on AF166 and it looks the same layout from re-booking my seat, still a 777-300ER.

KLM on Facebook were great but had no idea why I got the alert.

AF never bothered replying.

GrahamK 13th Oct 2017 21:42

The NCL flights are now a mix of E170/190 for the winter rather than all E1o0. Maybe something to do with that?

ash666 14th Oct 2017 06:16

Thanks for your input and help.
It was the long haul bit that changed.

I had to re-book the seat on that plane but I had another look yesterday and my booked seat on the CDG-NCL had gone.
I also sent another message to AF via Facebook and again no reply. They may think it's not important to reply to queries but it means I won't ever fly with them again.

I will attempt to send an image....
http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/s...%20changeB.jpg

Jamesair 16th Oct 2017 21:59

Sept stats now on airport website. Total pax 585,498 (534,516 Sept.16)

ash666 17th Oct 2017 05:50

I still think it's a shame there's not a metro train that will get there for the 4.30am check-ins/bag drops for the busy 6am(ish) flights.

VentureGo 18th Oct 2017 10:07

Boeing 777-35R (ER) just landed (11am) from Stansted (FR24) No reg or any other info and not listed on Newcastle Arrivals page.

SWBKCB 18th Oct 2017 11:49

The usual Middle Eastern visitors

Jamesair 18th Oct 2017 12:00

The clue was in the recent exotic helicopter movements

NorthEasterner 18th Oct 2017 16:12

The Prince and his family paying a visit to their Northumberland estate. Hopefully they have a nice time in this miserable weather!

LiamNCL 18th Oct 2017 21:43

Royal VIPs, There was a 777-200 in aswell as the 77W

EK77WNCL 19th Oct 2017 07:36

There was a 77W, 77E and BBJ

It's a different family to the usual visitors... Maybe they got jealous of the Dubai lot coming over here all the time and wanted a piece of the Northumberland action!

ash666 19th Oct 2017 07:37

Maybe they came on chance, just in case there was a football team in the area they could buy.

LiamNCL 19th Oct 2017 09:13

This was Abu Dhabi Amiri flight and not the regular Dubai air wing. Increased speculation of middle east investment in Newcastle United FC so watch this space.

Beatts 19th Oct 2017 15:49

Leeds Bradford Airport sold to Australian investment fund - Yorkshire Post

Interesting News from our neighbour. Wonder how this will effect route competition etc.

VentureGo 19th Oct 2017 16:31

Same Australian fund [AMP Capital] which took over share in Newcastle Airport and where former CEO Dave Laws (now CEO at Leeds Bradford Airport) also took up a role as a part-time Senior Adviser in its international airports business.
Just who is retiring Newcastle Airport boss David Laws? - Chronicle Live

Second from last paragraph from above article:

Now, after 37 highly successful years, Mr Laws is taking a part-time role at AMP Capital as a part-time Senior Adviser in its international airports business.
Note some comments following article are not favourable of Mr Laws!

Not sure if Dave Laws is also still advising AMP Capital.

VentureGo 21st Oct 2017 21:17

The 2 Abu Dhabi Amiri 777s departing Newcastle earlier today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5Rcu4hmjaI

Credit to You Tube Poster Jonathan Winton

HH6702 21st Oct 2017 21:20

Winter 2018/19 should go on sale this week.

New routes from TUI/TCX maybe??

bigjim99 22nd Oct 2017 00:02

EI down to 1 daily from next week, sadly losing the early morning feeder for transatlantic. Shame, was really pulling the numbers in recent weeks despite FR price war.

Stobarts moving an extra ATR to SEN with NCL drawing the short straw.

EK77WNCL 22nd Oct 2017 00:44

Well, just have to hope Ryanair gets round to sorting connections out across Dublin and tweaks the flight times

Past history probably suggests that as soon as Ryanair make a move, EI will follow... Then pull again

GrahamK 22nd Oct 2017 07:01

FlyBe operating the NCL-SZG on a saturday for TUI next summer.
NCL-SZG 0800-11:45 BE9231
SZG-NCL 12:25-14:30 BE9232

It seems that TUI have dropped Faro as well?

NCL-TRC 22nd Oct 2017 08:32


Originally Posted by bigjim99 (Post 9932579)
EI down to 1 daily from next week, sadly losing the early morning feeder for transatlantic. Shame, was really pulling the numbers in recent weeks despite FR price war.

Stobarts moving an extra ATR to SEN with NCL drawing the short straw.

Provisionally seems to remain at one daily 1045 departure for next summer too, think it’s time the airport did something to stem the loss of scheduled carriers, first SAS, EI down to one daily, who’s next Eurowings?

bigjim99 22nd Oct 2017 09:35


Originally Posted by NCL-TRC (Post 9932779)
Provisionally seems to remain at one daily 1045 departure for next summer too, think it’s time the airport did something to stem the loss of scheduled carriers, first SAS, EI down to one daily, who’s next Eurowings?


Chopping and changing frequencies/times does nothing except kill once feasible routes - I'd have hoped Stobart would have learnt by now.

It's a ruddy nightmare for business travellers and a single mid day service will result in FR success, and I won't be surprised if STK retreat completely sadly.

HH6702 22nd Oct 2017 09:47

Flybe base timing??

Is aircraft doing SOU-NCL-SZG-NCL-SOU
or just positioning in to operate the 1 flight?

EK77WNCL 22nd Oct 2017 20:04

I'm assuming that NCL-SZG is going to be on an Embraer as opposed to a Dash?

Who's operating the Salzburg flight? TOM?

The FAO rotation has been replaced with a straight swap for SKG

BAladdy 23rd Oct 2017 19:10


Originally Posted by EK77WNCL (Post 9933332)
I'm assuming that NCL-SZG is going to be on an Embraer as opposed to a Dash?

Who's operating the Salzburg flight? TOM?

The FAO rotation has been replaced with a straight swap for SKG

Based on the flight times of 2hr 45min outbound and 3hr 5 mins on the return on the SZG I would say it will not be operated by a Embraer. Could the flight end up being operated by a T3 S2000 on behalf of BE?.

SWBKCB 23rd Oct 2017 19:27

Bit of a drop from the B.734 used this year.

HH6702 23rd Oct 2017 22:11

Has there been poor loads this summer ?

VentureGo 24th Oct 2017 15:09

Looks like KLM (PH-BGF) 737 has gone tech in NCL after landing as KL957 @approx 10am this morning. Outbound KL958 (should depart at 10.45 is showing an estimated delayed departure time as 21:00 (Over 10 hours delay)

TheGeordielad 24th Oct 2017 20:56

Does anyone know how well these routes are doing passenger wise?
Berlin
Copenhagen
Dubai
Düsseldorf
Madrid

tigertanaka 25th Oct 2017 20:10


Originally Posted by TheGeordielad (Post 9935607)
Does anyone know how well these routes are doing passenger wise?
Berlin
Copenhagen
Dubai
Düsseldorf
Madrid

Stats are available on the CAA website

NorthEasterner 25th Oct 2017 21:55

Berlin - varies - some days loads good, some days not so good.
Copenhagen - axed
Dubai - mainly consistent with previous years.
Dusseldorf - consistent - mainly onward connecting traffic.
Madrid - similar to Berlin but more consistent with higher loads.

A rough guide, take it with a pinch of salt.

Travel Agent 26th Oct 2017 07:13

Nothing new from TC for winter 18/19 just ACE, FUE, HRG & TFS until April when they add AYT & NBE.

TUI are doing ALC, AGP, LPA, PFO & TFS. They add PMI in April.

HH6702 26th Oct 2017 07:31

Such a shame it's always the same

EK77WNCL 26th Oct 2017 10:49

I swear you it used to be the case that bookings only went 330 days out... And now I can book 18 months in advance? It's crazy!

I'm not surprised, Monarch's demise has likely meant that all of TCX/TOM/LS' future resources will be directed firmly into the South East and the Midlands... As if it wasn't already

With EZY adding extra frames at LPL and SEN... Perhaps we could feature in their expansion plans, but I'm not holding out for much more.

Disappointed not to see any new Ryanair additions as well

Heathrow Harry 26th Oct 2017 12:35

"Such a shame it's always the same"

be careful what you wish for - a lot of airports are seeing a steady erosion of service.....

HH6702 26th Oct 2017 13:51

Very true for what we wish for.
Just it seems that winter schedule from TUI/TCX Hasn't changed for years now.
Only new routes we have seen have been Ryanair coming in.
Surely people from the north east would like a greater choice in winter time from there local airport.

EK77WNCL 26th Oct 2017 16:31

To be fair (touch wood) I'm really really impressed that, on the whole, Newcastle has managed to build up and maintain a sustainable and profitable service

I just think it's about nurturing and developing that sustainable base now... I'm realistic about what Newcastle can and can't do... Things that I think they can do in the next 5 years are:

- Another easyJet frame
- Another Jet2 frame or 2
- More long haul offering from Thomson with a based/part based 787 (x2 weekly regular Orlando/Cancun, weekly/bi-weekly Jamaica/Dominican Republic/Puerto Vallarta... Perhaps Cuba/Thailand in the long term) --- and/or seasonal long haul from TCX/VS
- FRANKFURT!!!
- Increase in Ryanair offering, and after brexit is ironed out, a potential base
- 4/5 weekly Turkish to Istanbul once the new airport opens

With a heavy heart, I don't think we'll see a second Emirates flight before the 15th anniversary... Based on their track record, I'd even hesitate to say that Qatar jumping in on our turf with an A32x neo or 737 MAX would be more likely than a second triple from Emirates

Although all of that sounds like a lot, and it is! It would still work out as much less expansion than the likes of Manchester, Luton and Edinburgh have seen, ans still probably less than, or in line with average UK expansion recently

Callum Paterson 26th Oct 2017 16:46

You think Thailand is a realistic expectation from NCL? Behave.


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