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Chesty Morgan 26th Sep 2017 07:18

It's foggy.

N707ZS 26th Sep 2017 07:24

Ryanair diverting to Scotland when DTVA is open just down the road!

LiamNCL 26th Sep 2017 08:18

Dense fog visibilty down to around 200 metres

NorthEasterner 26th Sep 2017 14:48

The WMI flight then positioned back to NCL empty with crews to carry out the NCL-WMI leg. The learjet also positioned back with relief crew for the 2 Ryanair LPL based aircraft,

jensdad 26th Sep 2017 17:55


Originally Posted by N707ZS (Post 9904191)
Ryanair diverting to Scotland when DTVA is open just down the road!


I guess that'll just be because Ryanair have a 'station' at EDI or GLA or wherever it went, making things easier for them handling-wise.
I agree though, that the decline of Teesside Airport is very sad indeed. :( A Ryanair station long before Newcastle was.

NorthEasterner 26th Sep 2017 19:05

Was DTV called Newcastle-South by any chance :}

Diverted to Prestwick, the aircraft then flew back to NCL.

Presumably easier to go to PIK, knowing it will be quieter than EDI/GLA at the time of day.

VentureGo 26th Sep 2017 20:54

Newcastle had also taken in at least two Ryanair Diversions destined for Liverpool and one Jet 2 scheduled to Leeds Bradford due to fog at those airports earlier.
Wonder if DTV was equipped (Fire/Emergency/Border staff etc...) to take 737s and logistics for onward transition of passengers at the times all this played out?

fl dutchman 26th Sep 2017 22:57

Was the Ryanair flight to Gdansk due to fly throughout the winter? as it seems to be not bookable now.

HH6702 27th Sep 2017 06:02

They seem to be pulling BFS-LGW for the winter let's hope they aren't pulling anything from ncl

nclops 27th Sep 2017 08:22

Looks like the FAO is no longer bookable as well

Jamesair 27th Sep 2017 08:47

Easyjet for summer is Alicante (6wkly), Barcelona (4), Belfast (19), Berlin (3), Bristol (14), Faro (5), Geneva (2), Malaga (6), Split (2), Corfu (1), Jersey(4) Palma (7), Nice(4), Malta(2) and Rhodes(1) total of 80 flts a week. An expansion of 6 flts per week over this summer.

Nothing new yet but Palma has two flights on Mondays and none on Saturdays.

HH6702 27th Sep 2017 10:47

Thanks for the easyjet update.

EK77WNCL 27th Sep 2017 12:46

I think GDN/FAO cancellations over the winter may be due to the crewing shortage/roster cock up, Ryanair is cutting 34 routes and 18,000 flights between October and March

LiamNCL 27th Sep 2017 15:01

It is indeed down to the recent issues, routes return early spring

SWBKCB 27th Sep 2017 15:08

While there will be a degree of pragmatism around which routes have been cut, it won't be the high performers :(

EK77WNCL 28th Sep 2017 11:27

I find it interesting that some of their "important" routes, such as BFS-LGW, EDI/GLA-STN and WMI-WRO/GDN are among the routes cancelled

BAladdy 28th Sep 2017 13:25

FR had already announced that they were dropping WMI-GDN and WMI-WRO due to a disagreement with the warsaw airport authority

Ryanair to drop flights from Warsaw to Gda?sk, Wroc?aw: report - Radio Poland :: News from Poland

NorthEasterner 28th Sep 2017 19:27

Thats mainly due to WAW (Chopin) airport authority - not crewing issues.

Newcastle route flies into/from WMI (Modlin)

SealinkBF 28th Sep 2017 21:30


Originally Posted by EK77WNCL (Post 9906755)
I find it interesting that some of their "important" routes, such as BFS-LGW, EDI/GLA-STN and WMI-WRO/GDN are among the routes cancelled

For the domestic routes, because there is an another airline to accommodate pax it might have made the decision easier.

01475 29th Sep 2017 16:46

Or the fact that they had heavy competition may have made the routes among the most marginal.

mr_moose 29th Sep 2017 19:54

Number of bookings is probably the main factor - they tend to not get huge number of bookings on these flights until the couple of weeks before the flight - so fewer would be affected. Also many alternatives from London area, including flights, coach and the train.

Beatts 3rd Oct 2017 14:38

Newcastle Airport passenger numbers soar as city breaks and winter sun trips increase - Chronicle Live

Jamesair 4th Oct 2017 16:16

I notice both of the KLM Amsterdam flights have been cancelled tomorrow morning....anyone know why?

SWBKCB 4th Oct 2017 17:11

From the home page of the KLM website


Amsterdam - Unfavourable wind conditions expected
Due to unfavourable wind conditions expected in Amsterdam on Thursday 05 October 2017, some of our flight schedules to, from or via Amsterdam Airport Schiphol may be disrupted. We apologise for the inconvenience

HH6702 4th Oct 2017 19:58

Monarch effects on newcastle ( short/long term)

With monarch gone how will this effect newcastle?

I know they weren't based at newcastle but pax from the north east will have travelled
To Leeds Manchester for cheaper fares.

Will the other carriers now fill the gaps at man,BHX etc or will fares increase to make better profit margins will may stop north east pax travelling south?

Will airlines now focus on putting planes and routes into Manchester to increase options rather than start any planned routes which were from newcastle ( Ryanair)

Will Ryanair and easyJet now look at putting extra flights into Manchester so ncl has to wait longer ?

The last big failure I can remember was excel which effected ncl and we are only now getting back to the pax numbers and it's taken 10 years!!

TCX have said they will base 1 aircraft at LBA now replacing 1 of the 2 aircraft monarch had which is why I'm asking the questions on how this may effect ncl over the next few seasons

SWBKCB 4th Oct 2017 20:20

Could go that way, or it could be that MAN has been oversupplied and the existing airlines will consolidate and not look to replace MON capacity to try and increase yields. This may help NCL as prices at MAN (and LBA) creep up.

LiamNCL 4th Oct 2017 20:50

Not much of an effect IMO Jet2 EZY TCX may base an extra aircraft here or there but that will be about it. With TCX basing a aircraft down in LBA it may even benefit NCL if they choose to base for example the Avion A320 there and we end up with x3 A321. Excel was a big player here at the time and obviously really effected us as other bases like BHX will feel now Monarchs collapse.

Beatts 8th Oct 2017 11:30

Interesting to see that BA is reducing frequencies next Summer at BHD, EDI and GLA. Newcastle seem to be the same for the moment though.

chaps1954 8th Oct 2017 13:11

To be honest about loss of Monarch I think most of MAN routes will be gaining extra Easy and Jet2 with probably 5 or 6 aircraft added and Jet2 look to be adding another A330 but I would guess flights more expensive than this year

GrahamK 8th Oct 2017 14:13

TUI have added Dubrovnik for next summer

CabinCrewe 8th Oct 2017 15:44


Originally Posted by Beatts (Post 9918168)
Interesting to see that BA is reducing frequencies next Summer at BHD, EDI and GLA. Newcastle seem to be the same for the moment though.

For GLA just a single early sun AM rotation per week, no great loss I wouldnt imagine.

VentureGo 12th Oct 2017 11:15

Newcastle holidaymakers terrified as plane forced to make emergency landing after pilot collapsed - Chronicle Live

Beatts 12th Oct 2017 12:29

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...er-red-442115/

ash666 12th Oct 2017 16:13

Does AF/KLM have an info desk at the airport?
I've just had an email my flight has been changed and shows me the original and new flights and they look identical?

canberra97 12th Oct 2017 22:44

I have had previous emails from British Airways in the past and I have just turned up at the airport as usual after checking in online before departing home so I would assume this is similar to yourself, just check the KLM website using your reference to check your active flight details.

ash666 13th Oct 2017 05:39

Ok, ta.
I did that but can't see the difference to the cancelled and active flight apart from losing my seat booking.
It's the 2nd leg from CDG that has been "changed".
I sent a pm to AF's Facebook page but they haven't bothered replying.
Wish I'd used KLM again.....

tigertanaka 13th Oct 2017 07:02


Originally Posted by ash666 (Post 9923387)
Ok, ta.
I did that but can't see the difference to the cancelled and active flight apart from losing my seat booking.
It's the 2nd leg from CDG that has been "changed".
I sent a pm to AF's Facebook page but they haven't bothered replying.
Wish I'd used KLM again.....

You could try calling AF?

ash666 13th Oct 2017 07:05

Never too sure if I will get through to Paris, ouch.

I sent a pm to KLM on FB and they have replied already asking for more details.
They are so much better than AF at communicating.

Mind, it would still be nice to know if they have an info desk at NCL. They used to but not so sure now.

Travel Agent 13th Oct 2017 07:15

Can't remember seeing one on a recent visit... Could you not just call the airport switchboard and ask the question?

ash666 13th Oct 2017 07:17


Originally Posted by Travel Agent (Post 9923451)
Can't remember seeing one on a recent visit... Could you not just call the airport switchboard and ask the question?

Good idea! (said seriously, not sarcastically).


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