No domestic EZY routes so my best guess would be CDG and AMS plus seasonal GVA and JER staying on with RYR servicing the sun spots!
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Originally Posted by LTNman
(Post 10825614)
The question is was Southend told by Easyjet that they were off or did Easyjet and Stobart hold negotiations and could not agree a new deal?
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I see that Ryanair's base at SEN now seems under threat too - https://www.balpa.org/Media-Centre/P...ary-pay-cuts-t
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So what would be left with no Ryanair or Easyjet?
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According to a Ryanair SEN based pilot they are not pulling out. Lets hope he is right.
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I would imagine it will be down to how much money Stobart is prepared to pay Ryanair to stay as they hold all the cards.
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Southend Airport’s website is still showing no flights operating on their arrivals and departures web page. Is that really the case or has Stobart gone to sleep?
https://www.airport-technology.com/n...er-operations/ London Southend Airport in the UK has reopened its terminal to passengers after it was closed for three months due to the Covid-19 pandemic. |
Originally Posted by LTNman
(Post 10827784)
Southend Airport’s website is still showing no flights operating on their arrivals and departures web page. Is that really the case or has Stobart gone to sleep?
https://www.airport-technology.com/n...er-operations/ Answer. Yes. Laziness. |
Perhaps with the Lake District reporting a surge in bookings, now is a good time to relaunch the Carlisle route?
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Derry~Londonderry with Loganair has been moved back to Stansted for the remainder of S20 and also W20/21.
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Gets worse by the day. The place will have no flights some days in winter the way things are going.
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At most companies, when a major customer leaves, the staff, the directors and senior staff start to panic (junior staff are often not paid enough to care). Presumably that is happening now at SEN, but the PANIC! message just hasn't been communicated out yet officially...
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Perhaps with the Lake District reporting a surge in bookings, now is a good time to relaunch the Carlisle route? |
https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/18560967.easyjet-quits-southend-next-
Looking at next May Easyjet are still showing Southend based aircraft, which I assume will eventually disappear. Reading the comments the majority are delighted but I would think they are the ones who suffered. |
Some worrying stats taken from the Gatwick thread https://www.pprune.org/airlines-airp...l#post10833900
where is Southend, below 6 pax, cargo & biz movements? |
Originally Posted by pabely
(Post 10834056)
Some worrying stats taken from the Gatwick thread https://www.pprune.org/airlines-airp...l#post10833900
where is Southend, below 6 pax, cargo & biz movements? |
Some better news https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/185...s-new-flights/
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So the new routes are those announced last year for this summer but not started - see #3643
The Evening Echo (God bless 'em) carries the Ryanair story now listing six new routes:
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 10834097)
So the new routes are those announced last year for this summer but not started - see #3643
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You can be sure Ryanair will be paying nothing to Stobart and that Stobart will be relying on ancillary income to cover its costs. It could be a good fit for Ryanair as it will keep Stansted looking over their shoulder and grieving at lost passengers that they will see as rightfully theirs.
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According to Stobart those flights that have been flying from the airport have largely been full.
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So much for social distancing then. One metre plus!
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Originally Posted by rowly6339
(Post 10835245)
According to Stobart those flights that have been flying from the airport have largely been full.
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Stobart have sold Stobart Rail for £1000. I guess what they are doing is try and slow down of group losses in order to keep hold of the airport possibly until some sort of knight in shining armour comes along to save them.
Talking of knights, Andrew Tinkler says he would have paid 5 million for Stobart Rail, and again called for the removal of Warwick Brady. https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/185...thend-airport/ |
Originally Posted by DC3 Dave
(Post 10837696)
Stobart have sold Stobart Rail for £1000. I guess what they are doing is try and slow down of group losses in order to keep hold of the airport possibly /
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Wizz starting new med routes from LTN, is this partly in response to EZY pulling its base at SEN perhaps?
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Originally Posted by SKOJB
(Post 10837891)
Wizz starting new med routes from LTN, is this partly in response to EZY pulling its base at SEN perhaps?
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Originally Posted by pamann
(Post 10837894)
I would say it’s more about them going head to head with EZY at Luton on some of those routes. Can’t see how it has any connection to Southend if I’m honest.
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Not a good time for Stobart to focus on Southend when aviation has been decimated. Southend will now have to compete head on with other London Airports with plenty of spare capacity and better transport links who will be doing their own deals. To compete means offering ever lower fees or not charging fees at all, which will mean even lower wages and zero hour contracts.
Mirror that for STN, GAT, and LTN and it is a race to the bottom with the airlines holding all the aces. |
Originally Posted by LTNman
(Post 10837965)
Mirror that for STN, GAT, and LTN and it is a race to the bottom with the airlines holding all the aces. |
Southend does its own handing. Stobart has already said it has to reduce costs so people will be made redundant and then no doubt taken back on again, as the airport picks up, on new inferior contracts.
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If I worked at SEN and was laid off.... based on Easyjet closing their base, I would not be waiting around expecting to be rehired within 6 months
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So what can be made of the fact that Ezy have put a near full schedule on sale from Southend for next summer:
A) They are a company in cash generation mode and are just trying to acquire cash even if they know they will be almost certainly cancelling the flights? B) They plan on offering a larger range of destinations through non based flying than most of us would have originally thought (the timings of many flights make this unlikely)? C) A possible U turn over base closure (hopefully so but probably the most unlikely)? D) Something else? |
E) The person who is meant to update the schedules is out of the office and hasn't read their emails telling them to do so yet ?
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Can anyone confirm that there’s an Ural Airlines A320 at the airport with a scheduled 1515 departure to St Petersburg?
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F) They continue to sell tickets as normal since they're still consulting with unions about the base closure and will reaccomodate bookings, or offer a refund, when the inevitable is officially confirmed.
Seems the most logical explanation to me. |
Originally Posted by DC3 Dave
(Post 10838705)
Can anyone confirm that there’s an Ural Airlines A320 at the airport with a scheduled 1515 departure to St Petersburg?
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Originally Posted by chesna152
(Post 10838737)
Yes there is, operating a change of personnel for a ship at a nearby port
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EZY are allegedly operating a full pre-Covid schedule from early September. Fares are temptingly good...now, are they really going from 0 weekly to 13 weekly to AMS for example? My hunch is the cash generation option cited for why the 2021 schedule is on sale isn’t far off the mark. I’d be surprised if all the Sep flights take to the skies and that’s far more immediate.
As an aside my STN-AMS has been retimed and the schedule appears to all be operated from the AMS base whereas from what I can tell SEN-AMS is being operated from SEN. |
Originally Posted by LTNman
(Post 10837965)
Not a good time for Stobart to focus on Southend when aviation has been decimated. Southend will now have to compete head on with other London Airports with plenty of spare capacity and better transport links who will be doing their own deals. To compete means offering ever lower fees or not charging fees at all, which will mean even lower wages and zero hour contracts.
Mirror that for STN, GAT, and LTN and it is a race to the bottom with the airlines holding all the aces. |
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